its almost stupid to even calll NASCAR racing. i look as it as dog/horse racing taken to the next level. im not saying it doesnt take some skill to do it but have you ever watched any of the ice/snow rallies? or any european road races? and as far as cars... they do some cool stuff with american V8s and family cars but lets see one of those go head to head with a DTM or WRC car as far as innovative technology. real racing does more to advance the sport in 2 months than NASCAR does in 5 years. just my .02.