Originally posted by VeRTigO
Who mentioned anything about 13's? 
I never said you couldnt get a dsm into 13's cheaply, i said u cant get a dsm to reliably run 12's w/out alot of work/money.
Ok, 12s. Now what does it take to get a honda in the 12s? ALOT more than a DSM, or many other cars with turbos stock. People can go around it all they want, hondas aren't the cheap/easy way to go fast. That was my entire point.
Reliable? Any car being pushed to its limits(or at least closer than it came from the factory) for performance isn't going to be "reliable."