agemomai. i think you have the last part backwards. on a large course like homestead an FF will lose all of its momentum. a lot of what you are talking about is off throttle over steer and/or trail braking which is a great technique for ff in even a road race for certain turns. but when you throw in huge turns like that you get a very rapid deceleration rate to the point that your rear tires will just grip and youll go straight again a little after the apex. primus is a great track for FF. im 100% positive i can tear it up 10-40mph in my prelude with out problems. theres more than just yanking the wheel and pulling the ebrake. things like having the ebrake on and tapping the brakes to initiate, get great slip angles, or even keep a slide going an extra 20ft. it all depends on the turn. i would love to show how its done in an FF at Primus, but sadly the prelude is currently out of comission and im stuck driving this piss ass slow s13 coupe. the thing is soooo slow its annoying, and i think the handling is sub par to the lude and i have more upgrades done to it. for some reason i think i like to grip more than i like to slide.