I personally think that it doesn't take a whole lot of talent to drift a rear wheel drive vehicle. I also think that most of those people who try and or do that are retards behind the wheel and have no clue as to what they are really doing but spinning and tosing a car around. Now if they can use those skills to navigate through a series of turns on a track then I might be impressed. But to do it in an open parking lot. Whoopdie doo... Sorry to derail your post. Just saying that they both have degrees of hardness. And for most a road course is more challenging to them. But everything in life is what you make of it.