16 is not bad and i am willin to maybe drop the price alittle. i owe 12k. i havent had the car very long. i purchased it febuary 28 or 29 of this year. the pervious owner bought it from a DR. in boca in september and he only had the car for about 4k miles. he didnt drive it much so he sold me the car and he purchased an M3. but i just want a 92-95 hatch. there is nothin wrong with the car. other then the front brake pads r starting to skeck alittle but i ordered the pads yesterday and should get them to do it this weekend. other then that the only thing i need to worry about is the oil change in about another 3k miles. i really dont want to get rid of it cause everyone one always complements me .. and the girls love it.