True but the main reason Subaru doesnt get much respect is because the 2.5s are slow. 165hp and AWD sounds nice and all but a 16.4 or so e/t aint quick. Now when we finally get the true WRX with 227hp and AWD thats a different story all together. That car will run a 14.0 right outta the box with lots of room for improvement. For 23k that car is going to be tough to beat for the money. I predict that the WRX will light off the market for Subaru - wait and see.