Well last night on my way home from work I turn my stereo up due tot eh asswad in the car next to me had his music up quite loud. Well I had it 1/2 way up and realized it was quite quiet so I pulled over to check it out. As I look back the passenger side sub was banging away and the one behind me was dead still. Melted like a mofo. I was saying that my setup wasn't bad due to everyoen downing Audiobahn, but I will now retract my previous statements on their products. My old 10" compVR too way more abuse and is still kicking. Grrr now I have to go find two new subs...... sorry for the rant, but had to let it out.