Another point to consider though is what if the driver of the van had crossed into the oncoming lane at a time when there was no oncoming traffic? He wouldn't have hit anyone, therefore rightfully receiving the traffic violation fine, but nothing else. Now you could agrue this point by saying that what he did COULD have caused injury or death had it been done at a time when there was oncoming traffic (as the case was), but then you could say this for anyone who violates traffic restrictions.

Same could be said for the bayshore incident. The motorcyclist can be charged with vehicular homicide or something of the like, however, if he had been speeding down Bayshore 20 seconds later he wouldn't have hit the women and would only been guilty of speeding (which we've all done).

Just a thought. Im sure its crossed all our minds. Only reason I brought it up is that sometimes its difficult to sentence fairly. While we could say that the man who took the life of the 3 bikers did something which had the possibility of taking life, should we be charging everyone who speeds or violates traffic restrctions with vehicular manslaughter/homicide?