you stupid fucking ricers! dont try to talk about american cars that u dont know SHIT about....stcock cobras run 12.9-13.0 and a 2002 Camaro SS and the Trans Am WS6 runs 13.1-13.3 stock........ never in my entiore life have i seen a single DSM run a low-13 stock or even a high-13. With 400 bucks worth of mods on either of those car will put you well into the 12's you stupid fucktard......