The reason for posting them was if someone wanted a lil bang in there trunk for not that much money. Now If I said these were bad ass speakers that pound and are the greatest thing in the world i can understand your bashing.Until then please do not speak badly about a speaker with out hearing them first. EX:: I have 2 optimus 10's in my room cheap as dirt speakers but you know what they sound better then alot of jbl,sony ect. It just matters about amp box and how you hook them up and tune them just like a car.To be honest I think these 10's would pound if in the correct box and amp were involved.

my 2 cents