turbo ecu management
I'm looking at hondata and the aem ems ecu systems and want to get opinions pro and con on both. I have an 88 crx si with b16 swap a t3 turbo .63a/r on the turbine and .43a/r on the compressor, it will be a daily driver on 9-10 lbs of boost. It will only see the track after Each upgrade just to see what it can do so things like launch control aren't neccessarily needed. I have heard the aem won't fit in the same area as the stock ecu, true or false? I plan on being able to run 22psi and daily drive 15psi, but thats down the road.
If I go hondata which stage would be best. I know for hondata to go see vapor, ( vapor if you read this please put in your 2cents, also do you guys tune the aem).
If I go aem who in the bay area tunes it.
I have found out that the hondata once originally tuned for a few boost levels it can then extrapolate any other boost levels you throw at it.
If I go hondata which stage would be best. I know for hondata to go see vapor, ( vapor if you read this please put in your 2cents, also do you guys tune the aem).
If I go aem who in the bay area tunes it.
I have found out that the hondata once originally tuned for a few boost levels it can then extrapolate any other boost levels you throw at it.
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Unless you are going with a fully built motor and turbo setup, Hondata should be fine (based on what I've heard from many people, never used it myself). But if you are going to be changing cams, using radical intake design, fully built bottom ends and huge turbo's, the AEM is your choice. Basically the AEM is FULLY customisable in EVERY function the computer does. It can datalog many things and do them many different ways. Want to see what happens when you go past 50% throttle in 3rd gear above 60mph? You can set the datalog to only start once all three of those parameters have been met. It gets ALOT more complex than that.
Now, from what I understand, Hondata, while working quite well, its FULLY adjustable like the AEM. Its mainly used for basic adjustments of fuel and timing tables, injector size, switching to a GM 3 bar map sensor (so you can tune for up to 30psi).
So based on what you want to do with the car, sounds like Hondata is the choice.
Another huge factor to consider is local support. John (Vapor) is very familiar with Hondata and has a dyno to tune it on. Nobody in the area is really running an AEM yet, so you don't have anyone to turn to for help (trust me, you WILL need it with the AEM). This is why I went with Electromotive. My friend Allen Moore in Plant City is a dealer and has tuned them on everything from a turbo rotary powered Porsche 911, to a Subaru powered airplane.
Now, from what I understand, Hondata, while working quite well, its FULLY adjustable like the AEM. Its mainly used for basic adjustments of fuel and timing tables, injector size, switching to a GM 3 bar map sensor (so you can tune for up to 30psi).
So based on what you want to do with the car, sounds like Hondata is the choice.
Another huge factor to consider is local support. John (Vapor) is very familiar with Hondata and has a dyno to tune it on. Nobody in the area is really running an AEM yet, so you don't have anyone to turn to for help (trust me, you WILL need it with the AEM). This is why I went with Electromotive. My friend Allen Moore in Plant City is a dealer and has tuned them on everything from a turbo rotary powered Porsche 911, to a Subaru powered airplane.
the dude I bought it form ran 9psi at 3200 on a 2000si and the turbo map for the t3 on a .63 and a .48 both show the optimum rating ( the center island) between about 7psi and 16 psi, by the time I stand build a different b16 block I'll run a t3/t4. Holy shi* I just saw the price difference and I'll go with hondata, at least until the built engine comes along and I start rakin in cash with my bachelors.
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FYI, you can get the AEM for about $1400 new (my friend bought one brand new off Ebay for $1k). but Hondata is still cheaper. Also unless you want to buy a laptop, you're limited in what you can do anyway, so Hondata is better there too. I realize Hondata requires a laptop, but my point is that unless you've got a laptop you can leave plugged in constantly, you're just going to be changing basic stuff, which the Hondata will do wonderfully.
Oh, and 22 psi should be possible, but it will be mostly heat. Some of the 2.3 Turbo guys run 25 psi, and they make more power, but inlet temps sure are warm then.
Oh, and 22 psi should be possible, but it will be mostly heat. Some of the 2.3 Turbo guys run 25 psi, and they make more power, but inlet temps sure are warm then.
I do have a laptop but I'm not into changing settings that crucial on the fly. I'll let secret services tune it then let it stay that way until I add more mods. by the time I get to 20+ psi I'll definately have a bigger turbo or I may find out that 15psi is enough for me. thanks for the info.
dude....
built motor, big cams, crazy intake manifold .. etc etc etc..
you can still do it with hondata. 650+ whp has been seen on hondata.
built motor, big cams, crazy intake manifold .. etc etc etc..
you can still do it with hondata. 650+ whp has been seen on hondata.
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