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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Just wondering... [what traction rods do]. I had some Megan traction arms and they broke.

Please enlighten me someone?
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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I dont think i'd compare megans with a quality aftermarket replacement.

At a bare minimum, the heim joint ends allow for a bind free rotation of the arm throughout its ROM, something an oem, or poly bushing cant do.

I wouldnt let much megan near my car at all in the first place.
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they were free. but I wouldnt call them quality either. However. Its more about the "are they even worth anything" thread.
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Originally Posted by 4wheeldriftS13
they were free. but I wouldnt call them quality either. However. Its more about the "are they even worth anything" thread.
Yes, Heim joints eliminate binding, doesnt even have to benefit by adjusting, simply the bind free ends are a benefit enough to be worthwhile.
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full on track cars can take a lot more liberties with shit than a street car. bell bottom kits and crazy wheel fitment look cool sliding on a track, but when i want to drive to taco bus, im going to ruin all of that shit. so it just doesnt work for me. function over fashion.
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also, im about to blow my moderator status by deleteing all of davids posts
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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The Driftworks traction control arms, replace the standard non adjustable Nissan part. It is the final adjustable arm needed on S13,S14,S15,R32,R33 rear suspension set up. Adjusting this arms length decides how much toe is given to the rear wheel under suspension compression. The arms also eliminate another of the unwanted standard rubber bushes from the rear suspension setup, once again contributing towards that perfect handling car.


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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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From my experience the traction rods help with wheel hop, i had a lot of rear end hop before the traction rods,... after that it was completly eliminated
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Originally Posted by 4wheeldriftS13
no. I want someone who actually knows to answer this question for Blake. Because all Blake can give me over the phone is "they do stuff" thats why they're worth 100.00

Traction Arms for the Nissan 240SX from HorsepowerFreaks
"Because Trac Rods take the most force as you launch and accelerate, it is essential to remove the slop caused by their rubber bushings. Alex Pfeiffer designed these rods with hiem joints and adjustable-length arms (allowing you to preload the suspension). These measures eliminate harmful (and slow) wheel hop while improving suspension response and driver control. "

Maybe try really launching the car at the track ?


Sidenote, damn yeah im gonna need some of those.

1.9xx 60's on the SR, T25, and 215/45/17's, we'll see what some drag radials and ~ 400 ft lbs will do next
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Originally Posted by osama tim laden
full on track cars can take a lot more liberties with shit than a street car. bell bottom kits and crazy wheel fitment look cool sliding on a track, but when i want to drive to taco bus, im going to ruin all of that shit. so it just doesnt work for me. function over fashion.
Originally Posted by osama tim laden
also, im about to blow my moderator status by deleteing all of davids posts
R.I.P. Tim

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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wheeldriftS13
no. I want someone who actually knows to answer this question for Blake.
I've posted this stuff before. It was on Nissan Road Racing, where 99% of all technical suspension threads are.




These 3 trendlines show how toe changes with different traction rod lengths. Toe angle versus wheel height. It's called a toe curve. It shows bumpsteer. In the key you'll see that I've got 3 different lengths. 8.25" is about the stock length. The 0" height in this graph is equal to about 2" of drop. X axis is toe, in thousandths.

So yes. Adjustable traction rods do something. They adjust the amount and effect of bumpsteer at the rear wheels. Also, they reduce binding forces for freer wheel travel.

Good enough?

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My understanding is that when you super slam your shit the toe arm is no longer enough, the traction rod gives added adjustability.

I have z32 uprights, spl ruca and toe rods, and stock traction rods. Never saw a point for the traction rod personally. If I had money to throw around I'd probably buy a set for the sake of completeness in the rear end.
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It also changes the camber curves as well. A shorter traction rod will increase the camber gain as the wheel moves up under compression. The change isn't that much, though.
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