I am getting alot of questions about what I am doing along with "no dont do thats"
Basicaly I am sick of the compromises that need to be made to stay streetable and yet still have a high hp car.
My car screams from 6-10k rpms but is a dog below 5k.
I have a setup that belongs in Joes laser.
The car make awesome power for the track but just lacks the fun factor on the street unless I am going wot from 6-10k. And the only time I would do that is in a race.
So basicaly I needed to deside to make this a track car where all it does is go wot or tone it down and make it more street friendly.
My daughter who used to LOVE going for a ride in my car will no longer get in it after one wot blast on this new setup. It scared her to much.
I love my car and dont want to loose it over getting fed up with compromises.
So I am thinking of going back to the evo316g and just be happy with a car thats really fun on the street and still pretty fast (because my old 16g setup was a blast to drive).
Or going full race track car like Joe.
Trying to be the fastest out on the street is more hastle than its worth.
I now understand why Jerry does the things he does.
If you are going to have a street car the fun factor should come first, speed second.

 

This is one thing that I seen coming. I think you are making a big decision and I am sure going back to the evo3 16g setup for the street is a smart move, but you could kick it up a little bit with a 20g. The spool would be just about the same and you would get alot more power.

Whatever you decide, I am sure you will be happy, so that is all that counts.

 

I dont believe you will get alot more power with the 20g.
The reason I would do the 16g is its alot cheaper, makes almost as much power and just to see how much more power I can make with one with this new motor over my old one.
I would like to see if I can put a street car into the 10`s with a 16g and no nitrous.

 

thats why i im goin awd. i want something enjoyable even though i could go fast with slicks and an lsd, i still drive this car to school and everywhere else, i want something i will enjoy driving every day....and im pretty bored with fwd lol. so i know what you mean and how you must feel lol about it.

 

ive never experienced a 20g, but the 16g is an awesome feel when you can just punch it when you feel like it and go, especially in awd when it kicks like it does. mikes evo 5 with the 16g, when i rode in that, i immediately wanted one...it was about the funnest thing to ride in, he would floor it in first gear and instantly just hit boost and go, very fun ride.

 

I fully understand what you're talking about. It's really hard to understand until you've built a big turbo car. I know a bit about the loss of fun factor because we recently upgraded my friend's car from an Evo 16g to a 61mm turbo. No real power until 5000 rpm. All the midrange he loved was gone; the turbo was only fun WOT on the interstate. The car's been down a while switching to map-based tuning and turning into a weekend warrior street/strip car so it's fine but it did teach us a lesson about fast vs. fun.

I think my ideal setup would be a 10:1 2.3l with an FP3052 and methanol injection or a dual-fuel setup and a cyclone manifold. 500 whp peak, but awesome power from 3500-7000. I have the cyclone manifold, now I just need the 10:1 2.3l, the FP3052, and the dual-fuel setup with EMS. (I'm actually going to be running an Evo 16g with cyclone- both of which I was actually able to afford unlike the above).

I think I might buy a 2g one day to build a setup like that with the superior suspension design of the 2g, the better looks, nicer interior, etc.

 

i switched from the 16g to my fp3052, i still had fun driving the car just as much as the 16g. it didnt hit full boost too much later, and makes great power by 4k. i really like driving the car on this turbo, its a blast, and it can beat most anything around. if you want, you can drive my car to see if you like it.

 

if the 35r and bc280s is to much for the street for u, i wounld go with a bb50trim and 272s and still keep that bad ass manifold.

 

Not at all interested in a 50trim.
evo316g is a better turbo everywhere but peak hp numbers.

 

i think the first thing to do to try and get a couple of more rpm spool up is put a cyclone and see what it does cause what i think the 280s 35r is fine for the street but sheetmetal intakes lag a little then if that works try a stock exaust manifold with an adaptor platesee if you can get a little bit more with that you can probly get 500 to 1000 rpms but i think you set up is solid