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I would highly recommend reading "The Law of Self-Defense by Andrew Branca. He is a very prominent self-defense lawyer and completely contradicts this very poor advise. Firstly, when you make a 911 call, you don't want to give details but certain pieces of information are essential. Give them your name and location also let them know that you have been the victim of a crime. "I was attacked, I was in fear for my life and I had to defend myself."

Ask for police and an ambulance. If your attacker is beyond saving, very likely you will need medical services yourself after having tons of adrenaline dumped into your body. Older people have had heart attacks after such an incident and that's better to have in a hospital than in a holding cell. Letting 911 know you are the victim lets them know you are not the threat and sets the tone of the encounter with the police. You are the complainant, not the respondent. Did you admit you defended yourself, of course, but they are going to find that out shortly anyways.

Read Andrews book! It goes into much detail about the 5 pillars of self-defense law. Innocence, Imminence, Proportionality, Avoidance and Reasonableness. You establish several of these things just on the 911 call. Saying "there's been a shooting" and hanging up is probably the WORST advice I've ever heard of. No need to even mention that fact on the 911 call actually. Great way to get the police rolling up hot with their own adrenaline pumping increasing the danger to you and others however.
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As an EMT this is extremely poor advice. Speaking from a medical standpoint you are robbing us of any opportunity to make a game plan and mentally prepare for scenarios inside the confines of that particular dispatch. If all we hear is "blah blah rescue nature unknown", we go in blind. The same thing goes for LE, they are still going to arrest you no matter what you say, but if they know who and the what, you can avoid complications.

For instance, you say there's a shooting and hang up, they may stumble upon you holding a gun to an injured person on the floor. At that moment you stand a decent chance of getting shot yourself. Do not hang up on dispatchers, the information they gather is vital.

Cops rely on information like we do, a call for a shooting in self defense gets them in a vastly different state of mind than a call making them think they're about to engage in a fire fight. This is actually coming from someone who has been to the scenes of shootings, I have been in the court room and I have seen the outcomes of cases involving numerous scenarios.
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Brilliant info. Like everyone I will leave my 2 cents. Love the knowledge that the recording is starting off the dial......very useful! Now the advice to state "Theres been a shooting at...." and hang up. Personally I would recommend following up to ENSURE that the person understood you. I would also add a phrase....albeit I see why you want it short and sweet. But I would say "Theres been a shooting at xyz I need EMS asap. I will be doing what I can until they arrive.


Please confirm you understand. Once they confirm. I hang up. This makes me appear not guilty but trying to do what I can in the way of possible first aid or watching the subject to make sure they dont run etc. I can fill in the blanks later. I know my routine.....Shooting at XYZ. Send EMS. Doing What I Can. Click.

This makes me look honest, conscientious, and helpful. In a perfect world the 911 operator repeats back the confirmation.....if not interupt and say "Do you understand there has been a shooting at XYZ?. When they say yes....say SEND EMS. Hang up. You must push yourself away from the gangbuster of questions they will want to throw at you. Be forceful. Not everyone has this ability....thats why this Lawyer is recommending you just make the statement and hang up.

My only fear though is that there was an audio issue or misunderstanding.....I want confirmation before I put down that phone...UNLESS the situation is too dangerous for me to drag it out of the caller. If so I just hang up. Again I'm no expert....know all your local state federal laws and consult a LAWYER....not me....just throwing out good entertainment for all.
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