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Old 09-30-2017, 09:01 AM
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[h=1]Kentucky lawmaker launches new attempt at constitutional carry[/h] 9/26/17 | by Chris Eger

Kentucky Republican state Rep. Wesley Morgan argues “The government does not have the right to tell you to get a license to carry something that the constitution gives you the right to do.” (Photo: LRC Public Information)

A Republican has pre-filed a bill for the upcoming session that would renew the legislative push to let the Second Amendment serve in place of a concealed carry permit.
The measure, BR172, was submitted last month for the 2018 session by state Rep. Wesley Morgan, a Republican from Richmond, and would protect the right of Kentuckians legally able to possess a firearm to carry one concealed in public.
“Basically what we’re saying is you don’t have to have a concealed carry license, but it never was a requirement in the Second Amendment,” said Morgan, who was once an ATF agent. “The government does not have the right to tell you to get a license to carry something that the constitution gives you the right to do.”
Morgan’s seven-page bill would modify Kentucky’s current concealed carry laws to protect the right of those 21-years-old and over to carry a concealed firearm or deadly weapon without a permit. It would not replace the current permitting system, which is widely accepted outside of the state through reciprocity agreements.
According to information from the Kentucky State Police, 437,815 Concealed Deadly Weapons permits have been issued since 1996. The shall-issue permits cost $60 and are granted or denied within 90 days providing the applicant passes the required training requirements and background checks. Open carry is constitutionally protected in the state.
Morgan’s measure would be at least the third consecutive attempt by Kentucky Republicans to implement a permitless concealed carry provision to state law in as many years.
In the last session a Senate bill, SB 7, failed to gain traction over concerns about the law allowing 18-year-olds to carry concealed weapons. In 2016, gun control advocates took credit for derailing bicameral proposals, citing polling paid for by the groups that held Kentuckians oppose allowing people to carry hidden, loaded guns in public without a permit or training.
The GOP holds an impressive majority in both chambers of the Kentucky General Assembly which is set to convene its 2018 session in January.
Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin, a Republican, last year was a featured speaker at the National Rifle Association’s Annual Meeting held in Louisville.

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[h=1]Is This State Allowing Carry Without Licenses?[/h] 13 Comments
A study committee to consider whether Indiana should no longer require a license before you can carry a handgun in public issued its findings on Monday.
After a summer of meetings, the Joint Committee on Judiciary and Public Policy voted 15-5 in favor of urging the General Assembly to “remove hurdles that restrict the ability of law-abiding Hoosiers to exercise” their right to bear arms. While the panel urged keeping the current system of concealed carry permitting in place “for reciprocity purposes” it did not outright endorse permitless concealed carry. However, some on the panel see the recommendation as a victory.
“I believe it’s wrong to require a license to exercise a Constitutional right,” said state Rep. Jim Lucas, R-Seymour who plans to introduce a measure next year to bring constitutional carry to the state. “The only people who would be affected by this would be those innocent people that currently have to fill out lengthy forms online, take time off work to get fingerprinted and pay a fee of up to $140 to get a card to prove their innocence — all to receive a license.”
Lucas wants to eliminate the law requiring a lawful person to obtain a license to carry a firearm. People who have felony convictions are under 18 years of age or otherwise not legally permitted to carry a firearm would remain ineligible.

Not all agreed with the committee’s recommendations, which are non-binding. “We wasted our time,” said state Rep. Vanessa Summers, a Democrat from Indianapolis who voted against it. “I think we should have a defined line. I believe that in our city and state we need to have licensing for guns.”
Gun control advocates chalked up the committee’s findings as a win as it included a recommendation to keep the state’s licensing scheme running, refrained from outright championing constitutional carry and suggested better tools to identify people with mental health issues.
“After taking a close look at this issue and hearing from Indiana law enforcement, our lawmakers stood up for public safety and refused to give the gun lobby what it wanted,” said Beth Stringer, with Moms Demand Action, in a statement. “Indiana’s license requirement for carrying a loaded handgun in public is a popular, common-sense law, and law enforcement officials have made it clear that it helps them protect our communities.”
According to statistics from the Indiana State Police, the state began the year with 776,379 active licenses in circulation, up from 661,364 in 2015.
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State Governor Says Open Carry is Legal



Gov. Asa Hutchinson this month contacted the Arkansas State Police to inform the agency that the open carry of firearms is legal in the state by his interpretation.


In letters obtained via Freedom of Information Act requests, the Arkansas Times discovered that Hutchinson reached out to State Police director, Col. Bill Bryant, instructing him to provide the guidance to troopers in the field, saying he felt any arrest of an individual who was open carrying “would be both inappropriate and inconsistent with Arkansas law.”


The Governor, who helmed the National Rifle Association’s School Shield Task Force in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, says in the letter that he had expected the state supreme court to rule on the open carry issue, but they did not have an opportunity.
In turn, Bryant last week issued a directive on Arkansas’ often-controversial Act 746, a law which is seen by many as clouding the legality of permitless carry in the state. The states’ top lawman passed down to troop and criminal investigation division commanders that, while openly carrying a handgun does not provide probable cause for arrest, troopers can stop and detain a person suspected of reasonably suspicious actions to investigate.



The communications are the latest chapter in the four-year saga of Act 746 which tweaked state law to say that handgun permits were no longer needed when carrying a pistol or revolver on “a journey” in Arkansas. This led gun rights advocates to argue that permitless or constitutional carry either openly or concealed was legal in the state and conflicting but non-binding opinions from Arkansas Attorney General Dustin McDaniel in 2013 and his successor, Leslie Rutledge in 2015 on carrying openly without a license.


The exchange comes at a time when Hutchinson, a Republican, is facing a potential fight for his job against polarizing gun range owner Jan Morgan, perhaps best known for declared her business, the Gun Cave Indoor Firing Range, a “Muslim-free” zone. In response to the Governor’s recent interest in Act 746, Morgan took to social media and said the question is not of open carry, but of unrestricted constitutional carry.


“Problem is, he forgot to look up the definition of constitutional carry … and he proceeded to say that means people can open carry but still need a permit to conceal carry,” said Morgan. “Would someone on the Governor’s high paid staff please enlighten him on the definition of Constitutional Carry?”


Currently 12 states, to include Arkansas neighbors Mississippi and Missouri, practice constitutional carry doctrines.
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* Note 43 states have concealed carry laws.

You won't see that mentioned by Fake News.
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