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Are electric cars greener than conventional gasoline cars? If so, how much greener? What about the CO2 emissions produced during electric cars' production? And where does the electricity that powers electric cars come from? Environmental economist Bjorn Lomborg, director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, examines how environmentally friendly electric cars really are. Donate today to PragerU!
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So we are lied to again.....
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" Green" auto publicity always distorts the facts.

The power plants that produce electricity cause "pollutants" but since they are not polluting right next to your "green" car,
the environmental whackos lie about it and don't count power plants as pollution, but they count only your gas powered auto engine as pollution.

Has anyone calculated what all the power plant expansions will cost us for electricity
for our homes when it becomes mandatory that cars MUST be "electric only"?

California is already screwing over their residents with "environmental-saving" laws that cost taxpayers more,
and people are leaving California.....for a LOT of reasons.
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/p...our-state.html
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........and what is the cost when the environmental whackos jump on the power plants with fines and penalties once "green" hybrid cars
are made mandatory? ........what will it cost us for electricity for our homes when the "greedy power companies" pass on the punishment costs to consumers?
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Do the environmental whackos realize that they themselves will pay higher costs?
Or do they just screw everyone else and then leave to another state?
..........maybe to do it all again in the new state.......
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EPA Moves to Scrap Obama Mandates for Power Plant Emissions

Kevin Mooney / @KevinMooneyDC / August 21, 2018
  • Finally a bit of common sense instead of whackos driving up costs for consumers

President Barack Obama announces his Clean Power Plan on Aug. 3, 2015, during a White House press conference. Little over three years later, President Donald Trump proposes to scrap that plan in favor of giving more authority to states in regulating carbon emissions from coal-fired power plants. (Photo: Patsy Lynch/Polaris/Newscom)
The Environmental Protection Agency accelerated the Trump administration’s deregulatory agenda Tuesday by announcing a proposed rule to replace the Obama administration’s “Clean Power Plan” with guidelines that give states more flexibility to determine how to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired power plants.The proposed Affordable Clean Energy Rule rejects what acting EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler described in a conference call as the Clean Power Plan’s “top-down, one-size-fits-all” approach.Instead, President Donald Trump’s administration embraces an alternative strategy, rooted in federalism, that allows states to reduce carbon emissions while providing their residents with reliable, affordable energy.“The era of top-down, one-size-fits-all federal mandates is over,” Wheeler said.Obama’s Clean Power Plan, finalized in August 2015, set out to curtail carbon emissions from coal-fired power plants for the purpose of combating climate change.However, the Trump administration views the Obama administration plan as an overreach of the EPA’s authority under the Clean Air Act of 1970, which requires the agency to set “national ambient air quality standards for certain common and widespread pollutants based on the latest science.”“Replacing this disastrous plan with a more rational standard and empowering states in this effort is a welcome shift away from the Obama-era standards that would have fundamentally dictated what energy sources Americans could use,” Heritage Foundation economist Nick Loris said in a formal statement.In February 2016, the Supreme Court ordered a halt in enforcement of the Clean Power Plan until a lower federal court ruled on its legality. That order—which came in response to legal challenges from 27 states, 24 trade associations, 37 rural electric co-ops, and three labor unions—marked the first time the high court had stopped a regulation before a lower appeals court issued a final judgment. The proposed Affordable Clean Energy Rule fulfills objectives set in one of Trump’s early executive orders directing the EPA to “review, repeal, replace, or revise” the Clean Power Plan, Wheeler said in the conference call.If the Obama plan had been implemented, it would have “driven up energy prices for consumers and businesses by double-digit electricity price increases in 40 states,” according to one analysis cited by Wheeler.“Rising energy prices hurt low- and middle-income Americans the most, particularly senior citizens and minorities,” the acting EPA administrator said, and also “hurt the competitiveness of American businesses.” Providing ‘Regulatory Certainty’The Trump administration’s proposal “respects the rule of law,” Wheeler said, and enables states to “build affordable, clean, and reliable energy portfolios.” He said:The era of top-down, one-size-fits-all federal mandates is over. By acting within the law and rebalancing federal and state roles, we will give states and the private sector the regulatory certainty they need to invest in new technologies and provide clean, affordable energy for all Americans.During the call, Wheeler also discussed “one of the great and seldom-told American success stories,” which he said demonstrates how the nation is achieving energy independence while reducing carbon dioxide emissions and boosting air quality.From 2005 to 2017, total U.S. energy-related CO2 emissions fell by 14 percent, he said, in contrast to global energy-related emissions, which increased by more than 20 percent. Environmental advocacy groups that supported the Clean Power Plan are critical of the Trump administration’s proposed change.

Ken Kimmell, president of the Union of Concerned Scientists, a nonprofit based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, released a statement saying:The proposal fails to meet EPA’s mandatory duty to curb global warming emissions from major sources such as power plants, which account for about 28 percent of US greenhouse gas emissions. The plan calls for only modest efficiency improvements at individual power plants, which will barely make a dent in cutting heat-trapping emissions from the electricity sector, and could even, under some circumstances, lead to increased emissions depending on how much the plants are run. The EPA’s new plan would exacerbate pollution and health challenges, Kimmell argued.

Restoring Federalism in RegulationsBill Wehrum, assistant administrator for the EPA’s Office of Air and Radiation, said during the conference call that the proposed rule includes three main components.For starters, it redefines the relationship between the federal government and the states within the context of the Clean Air Act, so that states have the primary authority for determining what emission controls are needed on power plants within their jurisdictions, Wehrum said.“The Clean Power Plan was federal heavy,” Wehrum said of the Obama administration initiative. “It was essentially a federal mandate that left the states very little latitude as to what they would do under the program and how they would do it. We believe that’s not the correct way to implement this part of the [Clean Air Act], and that’s not what Congress intended.”The rule also gives the federal government the ability to “create a framework of regulation” applicable to the states and “to make recommendations” with an eye toward improving the efficiency of certain power plants and to “identify a list of candidate technologies” that can lead to lower emissions, he said. The third component involves revisions to a program called New Source Review so that this part of the Clean Air Act can operate “in concert rather than in conflict” with the new rule, Wehrum said.Bonner Cohen, a senior fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research, told The Daily Signal in an email that the proposed rule fulfills a key promise Trump made to supportersresident Trump’s EPA has scuttled the Obama Clean Power Plan and put in its place an initiative that will provide Americans with affordable and reliable energy. And he has kept his promise to end the Obama war on coal. Unable to get Congress to enact cap-and-trade legislation, Obama said there was another way to ‘skin the cat,’ and he instructed his political appointees at EPA to concoct a top-down, one-size-fits-all scheme to raise electricity prices for all Americans. Now Trump is skinning Obama’s cat. ‘A More Rational Standard’An EPA press release announcing the proposed rule describes “main actions” to further alleviate greenhouse gas emissions that some scientists, academics, and politicians link to climate change.“Economically and environmentally, the Trump administration is completely justified to undo President Obama’s climate legacy that grossly exceeded the statutory authority of the Environmental Protection Agency,” Loris, an energy and environmental policy analyst with The Heritage Foundation, said in a prepared statement. Loris added:The so-called Clean Power Plan would have spelled higher energy bills for families, individuals, and businesses. Moreover, it would have destroyed jobs and strained economic growth—for no meaningful impact on global temperatures. Replacing this disastrous plan with a more rational standard and empowering states in this effort is a welcome shift away from the Obama-era standards that would have fundamentally dictated what energy sources Americans could use.Ultimately, Congress needs to recognize that these overbearing climate regulations are not only costly but also completely ineffective in achieving their supposed goals, and should act to prohibit the EPA and all other federal agencies from instituting similarly misguided regulations on emissions.The EPA will receive comments on the proposal for 60 days after it is published in the Federal Register; the agency also will hold a public hearing.More information about the proposed rule, including a prepublication version of the Federal Register notice and a fact sheet, is available here.
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