I've seen stock and i/e 3800s run mid-low 14's, not bad, just not fast

 

Well, don't hate on theV6 guys too much...I mean, those Honda guys soup up 4-cyls...thats even worse!

 

It's actually not worse. The higest end Civic is a 4 cylinder whereas the highest end Camaro is an LS1 V8. At least if you start on the best available platform it makes sense.

Corey is right. The #1 argument for the V6 over the V8 is not having the money to purchase a V8. A stock, crate 350 SBC from GM is roughly $1200 whereas engine work alone on the 3800 I posted is more than triple that! Shit, my wife'll sell you her LT1 Trans-Am for $5000 at this very moment in time if offered. That's not much more than the engine work for the V6.

That turbo kit is nice, but how reliably are we talking about getting 400hp? You'd probably be spending a little bit more to repair whatever you shake loose while boosting the living hell out of your 3.8. 400HP in a V8 is (normally) completely reliable.

Plus, you're not going to get 12's on stock suspension in a V6 car, especially an FWD one. That's another big expense whereas most V8 cars are equipped pretty well in the back to handle that kinda abuse.

Again, just food for thought. I'm not trying to discourage anybody. I'm more trying to justify everything I've said in a V6 vs. V8 argument lately.

 

I still want an '89 Turbo Trans Am and/or Grand National/T-Type

 

3800 motors are pretty reliable up to around 350ish whp. The real down fall in the FWD cars are the transmissions not holding up to all the power. Even the 4T65e-HD needs a fair amount of work to be able to hold that amount of horsepower. A supercharged 6th gen Monte Carlo ran a 12.6 with stock suspension and slicks.
Personally I would of been happy to start with a V8 if only my car came with one. I guess the FWD and RWD 3800 worlds are a bit different. But i did by the biggest motor available for my car. It might not me much but with a bit of work it will speed up. I'm still saving up to assemble my own turbo set-up rather then spending 3 grand on a kit.

 

Arent the New '06 Montes and Impalas getting the 5.3L V8 used in the SSR from two years ago? And they going from FWD to RWD too right?

 

The 06 Monte Carlo SS and Impala SS are getting the 5.3L. The LS4 is a Displacement On Demand motor. They are both staying FWD.

 

Shame.

 

this isnt that mexican kid thats friends with jon is it???


if so this is jon's old neighbor bronson.. never thought id be seeing you on the boards !

 

I had a 12 second 4cyl with nitrous... i wouldn't consider this really special at all. It all comes down to one classic saying:
"Different Strokes for different folks." Some people have the money for a V8 (gas/insurance/8 of each part)...some people don't, and others just like to be different (I.E. SLOW.) and it rarely works out for the best. I'll respect a guy with a nice V8 who's running 10's just as much as a guy who's got an all motor 4cyl running 10's. Both took a lot of work, and thought. There is no answer to this arguement *remember that*.