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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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leonard is a great guy but just because he sells something doesn't mean he knows everything about what he's selling

this is the same guy that told me there is no such thing as a shift kit for a 4l60e
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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really? So I guess thats why u thought that Eds didnt carry transgo shift kits
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickdomesticracer
It seems everytime I open or ask for advice on this people either Say I need some kinda LS1 conversion. . . but when I aske about brakes hardly anyone responds. Kinda weird u can build up ur motor but never change your brakes.

Converting to LS1 4th generation F-body brakes was good advice seeing as how you were asking about imroving your LT1 4th generation F-body braking.

FWIW, You need to keep an open mind if you're asking for advice. If someone spouts BS we'll usually call them on it.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Lol I see your point, but my question in the brakes topic were where I could purchase the "racing" brake pads, not improve my stopping
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickdomesticracer
my question in the brakes topic were where I could purchase the "racing" brake pads, not improve my stopping
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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pro's- you are not a LS1 owner and prob wont have your head stuck up your ass (j/k!!)
con's-you have ppl like Sneaken deaken and 97BlkZ as fellow owners which I would be ashamed of!! j/k again

they are cheap to buy, not bad to build, getting to spakr plugs sucks so much though its gross, I am not a fan of lt1 z's looks but I do really like the Vete;s and of course the TA's (the ws6 hood never gre on me)


quickrice: if you recommend hypertech again, I will have to start posting that I will kick ppl in the ball's for $$$. I highly recommend ls1tech or ls1.com (if it still is up) and their lt1 forum's. A lot more truthful knowledge can be found there then someone that does not own a LT1 or really know about them. It would be like asking me about a rotary, I have no clue about them. If I had gains like that on my car, I would be sitting well over 1k in hp right now lol. I like LT1's and do like the idea of built ones. Call Alan Futral if you ever want some real performance stuff for the car, I am sure Datruth or Gator has his number.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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jake i have the market on kicking balls versus hypertech moding.

as for futral's number...
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What makes you think you could of keep up with me. Have you ever had that car on a dyno?
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickdomesticracer
Fine I wont argue no more. I am not no mid 20's to 30 year old guy who has 3gs to throw away on a stroker kit.. I am 16. I try to listen to what everyone has to say, because I am an amatuer when it comes to computerized EFI cars, as to carburated. I figured the guy at the local High Performance shop wouldnt try to make anything up. I have been around awhile listening and talking to people about there cars, countless times have I heard people on and offline, on and off Tamparacing.com that have told me Stock new LT1s had for the most part likw 285RWHP. It seems everytime I open or ask for advice on this people either Say I need some kinda LS1 conversion, or dont know anything. ALmost anyone here can tell me where to buy rims Pacesetter headers, but when I aske about brakes hardly anyone responds. Kinda weird u can build up ur motor but never change your brakes. Im not here to argue, but when I try to help and I am wrong ohwell. Anytime I wanted to know all the stuff I know now I tried asking people from this site.
well first of all, welcome to the real world.. im 19 not 30 and i dont have 3gs to throw at my lt1 either, you think this site is filled with old guys with no lives just here to flame you but your wrong, actually if you werent so arguementative you might learn something.

do you know what a dynojet is? have you ever put your "285" hp z28 on a dynojet? your car might (probably does) have close to 285 hp to the CRANK (crank being that big rotating things with rods on it with pistons on the end and something else about combustion). now that you know that much you should know that once that power is transfered thru the crank and flywheel thru the clutch, from the clutch thru tranny to the driveshaft, down the driveshaft and into the pumkin (pumpkin is a slang or jargin term for the center section of a cars rear end assmeblly) through all the gears, out your tiny axles, thru the wheels mass and onto the very edge of the tires which make a direct connection with the ground, a whole lot of that power has dissapated. its called PARASITIC LOSS. thats why there is a difference between REAR WHEEL horsepower and CRANK horsepower.
So lets say for the sake of the arguement (realistically) that your car has maybe 270 horsepower to the CRANK. After parasitic loss and some other factors (like pressure and outside temp and bs like that) you will probably have somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-260 REAR WHEEL horsepower.

Now... that company that claims their headers make 28 horsepower, they either are saying that thats 28 horsepower to the CRANK because engine dynos are usually how companies like that measure their gains (engine dynos measure crank horsepower). now we are assuming the company even TESTED their product. in reality there is no law saying that these companies have to tell you the EXACT gains you should expect from their product because they vary from car to car depending on a lotta shit. basically they can claim their headers will give you 280 hp and from the looks of it you would probably believe them

now as for the hypertech, if you use it it will screw your computer royally and you will end up getting a dyno tune to fix it so why waste the money.

as for modding the LT1 on a budget, heres an idea.. if you want to make it fast you best get a job and start saving money. there is no CHEAP or EASY way out of it.. work with cars and you will learn that yes they are fun and yes it is an EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE HOBBY. so go buy your hypertech and magical longtubes and put them on your stock 285 rear wheel hp camaro and then you will be up to 500 hp and your rear end will magically not break when you magically get traction
have a nice day
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Wo kind of harsh on the kid there. Seriously learn from the guys who know from doing it. Jake well said , I do how ever find lt1 camaros and T/A's sweet looking (96 SS is the hottest). I think the Cobra looks like a waxed brick IMHO, LOL. But you seem to be on point with all else.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by formula69
well first of all, welcome to the real world.. im 19 not 30 and i dont have 3gs to throw at my lt1 either, you think this site is filled with old guys with no lives just here to flame you but your wrong, actually if you werent so arguementative you might learn something.

do you know what a dynojet is? have you ever put your "285" hp z28 on a dynojet? your car might (probably does) have close to 285 hp to the CRANK (crank being that big rotating things with rods on it with pistons on the end and something else about combustion). now that you know that much you should know that once that power is transfered thru the crank and flywheel thru the clutch, from the clutch thru tranny to the driveshaft, down the driveshaft and into the pumkin (pumpkin is a slang or jargin term for the center section of a cars rear end assmeblly) through all the gears, out your tiny axles, thru the wheels mass and onto the very edge of the tires which make a direct connection with the ground, a whole lot of that power has dissapated. its called PARASITIC LOSS. thats why there is a difference between REAR WHEEL horsepower and CRANK horsepower.
So lets say for the sake of the arguement (realistically) that your car has maybe 270 horsepower to the CRANK. After parasitic loss and some other factors (like pressure and outside temp and bs like that) you will probably have somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-260 REAR WHEEL horsepower.

Now... that company that claims their headers make 28 horsepower, they either are saying that thats 28 horsepower to the CRANK because engine dynos are usually how companies like that measure their gains (engine dynos measure crank horsepower). now we are assuming the company even TESTED their product. in reality there is no law saying that these companies have to tell you the EXACT gains you should expect from their product because they vary from car to car depending on a lotta shit. basically they can claim their headers will give you 280 hp and from the looks of it you would probably believe them

now as for the hypertech, if you use it it will screw your computer royally and you will end up getting a dyno tune to fix it so why waste the money.

as for modding the LT1 on a budget, heres an idea.. if you want to make it fast you best get a job and start saving money. there is no CHEAP or EASY way out of it.. work with cars and you will learn that yes they are fun and yes it is an EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE HOBBY. so go buy your hypertech and magical longtubes and put them on your stock 285 rear wheel hp camaro and then you will be up to 500 hp and your rear end will magically not break when you magically get traction
have a nice day
DynoJet huh? How much does that one cost to use? What is the Factory WHP for my car. Thanks for the lengthy explanation of what rods and crankshafts are. I do know all of that already. As to the crediability of Hooker about there WHP gains, you could be correct, and probably are but in the mag it said WHP not HP. And I know ur example shows 10-30 HP loss. to the WHP from HP. Seems like very little compared to how everyone else exaggerates.

They say the 02 SS is fastest Camaro Chevy ever made. back in 70s they had 350CI with 350HP on the motor, ur sayings my LT only might have 285. That comparison seems weird unless back then they used Lead Driveshafts and all?!!
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