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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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I was just talking to a friend about this engine. He says we could retrofit heads on a V-8 to do the same thing. Anyone up for the challenge? This thing running at 100:1 compression is like 1500 psi in the cyl, plus you have less stroke to get power output... You could have weed wacker sized engines driving a van down the road lol or create thousands of HP with a common sized modern engine (wont happen, they'll give us the weed wackers) The heart of this new engine is that it has a supercharging affect within itself. A naturally forced induction motor! This is really something.
Hmm well I wonder if a normal motor can take that kind of abuse.

Nope try again. Your not going to create 1000hp out any normal engine by increasing its compression ratio to 100. The cost to build an engine that could handle that kind of pressure would be astronomical. What kind of fuel would you run? Its a theory only and there is no working model. Just some neat illustations.

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by skoloseven
I was just talking to a friend about this engine. He says we could retrofit heads on a V-8 to do the same thing. Anyone up for the challenge? This thing running at 100:1 compression is like 1500 psi in the cyl, plus you have less stroke to get power output... You could have weed wacker sized engines driving a van down the road lol or create thousands of HP with a common sized modern engine (wont happen, they'll give us the weed wackers) The heart of this new engine is that it has a supercharging affect within itself. A naturally forced induction motor! This is really something.
That's awesome, so I just put some new heads on my engine and it will do 1500 psi too? I bet I could get 15,000 HP out of the lambo with this new built-in forced induction engine. You know what you could also do, with that high compression ratio, mix water in with your fuel to give it internal cooling along with the internal forced induction properties, cause it will probably run a little hot at that compression ratio.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skoloseven
what exactly is the bennefit of firing after tdc
I'm guessing it's more of a requirement for a 100:1 engine than a benefit. The burning fuel probably expands too rapidly for it to be ignited at TDC. Dunno. Just a guess.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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This is really new technology, and I'm not 100% sure how it works. There is only so much information released. Mid april 2009 they are going to have a functioning prototype display. I wonder how this new engine will sound
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What kind of material would the rotating assembly be made of? And how thick the cylinder walls? I cant imagine the heat created by this thing, the cooling system would have to be sufficiently upgraded.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Not sure, but I would think it would have to be substantially more resilient to thermal energy. We'll find out soon enough when they show the running prototype. The power displaced should offset any weight gains due to the high compression ratio and extreme power output.

Think about this: if a 200 hp 2.0 engine with this setup it would have 10x more compression than standard and only have one stroke. Every stroke would generate power as well, and the ability for higher RPM would be greater.

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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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I still dont understand this 100:1 compression ratio equates to automatically 10x the power output? And I would also like to know about what fuel they are going to run. The only comparable motor in terms of stress levels would be a modified desiel.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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My question is torque...while largely a function of air velocity, its also related to displacement. Ask any Honda guy about it. They have 1.8/2.0L engines that make 200hp or more, which is equal to many 1990s vintage v8's, trying to move something like chevy van with the 140ish ft/lb of torque they make is another matter.

my point...lets say this new wonder engine makes 500hp out of 1.5L...if it only makes say 200 ft/lb of torque your not moving a 40,000lb bus with it.

In some applications there is no replacement for displacement.
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A desiel of the same size will make alot more torque then its gasoline powered brethren. Just look compare the 335i turbo and 335 desiel.

But you make a good point. Also with small displacement it has to rev like hell to make power. How do you think a motor with 100:1 comp will like to do that and stay together? I'm gonna go with not very long.

A motor like this would be stupid expensive to make. The tolerences on it would be in F1 engine territory. Guess how much they spend on 1 engine.....
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This engine is man show quality, 5.6 million lb/ft of torque at 102 rpm.

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