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Scott 11-24-2004 06:50 AM

Nitrous Done With ? Turbos / Blowers Taking Over ? Cars soon going 5's in the 1/4 ?
 
Below is a link to the whole artcle, I posted the things I thought were key points from the article. Very crazy to think of these cars getting into the 5's in the 1/4 ! :eek: Looks like forced induction is starting to take over. :D




http://www.dragracingonline.com/burksblast/vi_10-1.html




When I heard the new rules that were being proposed for the 2005 NHRA AMS Pro Mod series that would essentially eliminate nitrous oxide-injected combinations by taking 100 lbs. off the minimum weight for blown cars and increase the maximum overdrive to 29 percent, penalize any car with current body styles by adding 100 lbs. to their minimum weight, and, if the rumors are true, would legalize turbocharged engine combinations, I freaked. Basically these rules if adopted by the guys in charge would sooner than later turn NHRA Pro Mod into a five-second blown or turbocharged class. :eek:

I especially got worried about the rumored turbo rule when I heard that Stephan Papadakis recently ran a 6.541/211.73 in a 183 cubic inch, twin turbocharged, V-6 powered Don Ness built Honda Civic then backed it up with a 6.55 ! :eek:

Yeah, let's up the overdrive, reduce the weight and allow turbos, and everyone will be in the fives. Turbocharged engines in the hands of guys like Howard Moon, Chuck Ford, Darren Mayer or Jim Oddy won't be faster than any other combination, will they?

If they weren't it would be the first time in the history of auto racing that turbos didn't dominate a class once let in. :D

type-j-spec 11-24-2004 07:29 AM

no more pussy juice,i mean really engine vs engine,mech vs mech.i mean any idiot can throw some NAWZ in the trunk.

Strokd85 11-24-2004 08:07 AM


Originally posted by type-j-spec
no more pussy juice,i mean really engine vs engine,mech vs mech.i mean any idiot can throw some NAWZ in the trunk.
Are you serious?
Let me see you tune a twin fogger setup pushing almost 1000hp in juice without hurting anything...
Hell, let me see you do it with a single fogger pushing 500hp.

Turbo combinations are definately more efficient at making power, but in an 1/8mile race i think it's still pretty close since the turbos will make the majority of the power on the back end.
In the 1/4 mile it's going to be tough to keep up until they come out with some advancements for nitrous as the power is just raw..

gabe 11-24-2004 08:23 AM


Originally posted by type-j-spec
no more pussy juice,i mean really engine vs engine,mech vs mech.i mean any idiot can throw some NAWZ in the trunk.

just take it from me, nitrous is just as complicated as a turbo setup. i got my ass handed to me a few months ago for thinking like you :lol:

Scott 11-24-2004 10:28 AM


Originally posted by type-j-spec
no more pussy juice,i mean really engine vs engine,mech vs mech.i mean any idiot can throw some NAWZ in the trunk.


Yes any idiot can throw a kit on that is running under a 200 shot but above that you have to watch the tune pretty dame close which means your run of the mill idiot is not going to be able to cut it.

Personally I do not see how you can beat a turbo set up in any aspect. The power is always there but at the same time you can putt around easily, much easier on parts, and they are very effecient at making power.

BigBadBuick 11-24-2004 12:34 PM


Originally posted by type-j-spec
no more pussy juice,i mean really engine vs engine,mech vs mech.i mean any idiot can throw some NAWZ in the trunk.
Only an idiot would call it NAWZ :razz:

type-j-spec 11-24-2004 12:34 PM

still safe or unsafe any idiot can throw NAWZ in the trunk



any idiot CANT go into an engine and do some real work,and that what i respect is the tech part of it.

BigBadBuick 11-24-2004 12:37 PM


Originally posted by BigBadBuick
Only an idiot would call it NAWZ :razz:

BigBadBuick 11-24-2004 12:39 PM


Originally posted by type-j-spec
still safe or unsafe any idiot can throw NAWZ in the trunk



any idiot CANT go into an engine and do some real work,and that what i respect is the tech part of it.

Actually, rather than just play games here, please, tell me what is so simple about a substantial gain of horsepower from nitrous?

Zate 11-24-2004 03:34 PM


Originally posted by type-j-spec
still safe or unsafe any idiot can throw NAWZ in the trunk



any idiot CANT go into an engine and do some real work,and that what i respect is the tech part of it.

and there in lies your problem..

you'll get no more power from throwing a nitrous bottle in your trunk than you will throwing a turbo in there..

its up the engine where it counts.. and nitrous is not a simple thing to put on when your talking the power levels your talking here.

putting a turbo on a honda.. nissan or anything other road going car to add 100 hp is a totally different story to making 1500+ with a turbo ..


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