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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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nice,i seen a thing on the history channel about gas it was pretty cool.alot of poeple don't know that gas is all the same u can go to shell or 7/11 it's still the same shit only thing that make it diff is what they add to it.some add stuff to make it clean the motor and so on and so on.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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So if I put 93 Octane (The Premium expensive kind, I dunno if its 93 or more) in my Eclipse Spyder GS can it handle it, or should I stick with 87. I was told by one of my friends that 93 has better mileage or something.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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It's interesting that planes can use leaded gas...doesn't that lead do the same harm as if it were used in a car?

As for you're Eclipse, check the manual, use whatever it recommends for the minimum.

I know my MX-6 has a knock sensor, so if I were to put in lower octane gas, even though it's supposed to use 91+, 89 or 87 won't kill the engine because it will automatically adjust due to the knock that might occur. Of course it will reduce performance some as well. I don't sweat the extra $0.20 for the premium when I have to use it.

Isn't it interesting that the difference between the 3 grades is almost always $0.10 away from each other, regardless of how bad the oil crisis is for us? And BTW I just saw a Shell with gas for $1.80, $1.90, $1.99. I guess they didn't want to cause sticker shock for those getting premium seeing $2.00. Or they don't have their 2's out of storage (;
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by NoAccelerationAuto
So if I put 93 Octane (The Premium expensive kind, I dunno if its 93 or more) in my Eclipse Spyder GS can it handle it, or should I stick with 87. I was told by one of my friends that 93 has better mileage or something.
You put the one in that is recommended for your car unless you have modded/retuned it to run at another octane level.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by DebianDog
You put the one in that is recommended for your car unless you have modded/retuned it to run at another octane level.

I don't always agree. If you have an NA 4 cylinder that is stock and they tell you to run premium, theres no reason to unless it has an extreme compression ratio. It doesn't "burn cleaner," "give you better mileage," or any of the other myths. Octane rating is just as the article states; a determinant in when knocking will occur. Different brands of gasoline may contain detergents and other additives, but it has nothing to do with octane ratings.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
I don't always agree. If you have an NA 4 cylinder that is stock and they tell you to run premium, theres no reason to unless it has an extreme compression ratio. It doesn't "burn cleaner," "give you better mileage," or any of the other myths. Octane rating is just as the article states; a determinant in when knocking will occur. Different brands of gasoline may contain detergents and other additives, but it has nothing to do with octane ratings.
ANNNIIIITTTT Wrong. The manufacturer tests each octane level for the car. And odds are if you have a low HP 4 banger... you have a 89 or 87 octane requirement.

I remember I had an Interpid and the 3.5 liters demanded 91 while the 3.0 liters were good with 89. My buddy that had one (3.0) got better gas milage and performance from the lower octane while mine pinged with anything less than 91.

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Originally posted by DebianDog
ANNNIIIITTTT Wrong. The manufacturer tests each octane level for the car. And odds are if you have a low HP 4 banger... you have a 89 or 87 octane requirement.

I remember I had an Interpid and the 3.5 liters demanded 91 while the 3.0 liters were good with 89. My buddy that had one (3.0) got better gas milage and performance from the lower octane while mine pinged with anything less than 91.

So your telling me your are one of the ones that believes octane rating to be anything other than used to determine when your engine will knock? Or just that you should use what the manufacturer calls for even if its a 4 cylinder?


And your right about the getting better gas mileage and performance from lower octane. You essentially want to run the lowest octane you can without pinging. I have no idea what would make an intrepid ping, but I bet its not just the gas.
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The dodge symbol?
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by 97blkz
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Funny. No it was the gas.
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