GSX-R 1000 Vs. TL1000R
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Originally posted by tampamax
Listen bro, these guys aren't jumping your case cause your asking questions, although at times it sure seems like it. It just that all of the riders that have made it past their first couple bikes or first riding year realize something that a person that is new bikes just can't realize yet. It takes some time to sink in that the difference between a full litre bike and a 600 is almost night and day to almost anybody. And after riding in the unforgiving traffic, especially around here, we KNOW it is very difficult for someone that is unfamiliar with street bikes to just hop on one and be able to ride without getting seriously hurt or killed.
We're just looking out for the less experienced. Hell, i've had bikes for almost 4 yr and i still know that i don't know enough. The main concearn is that you would be jumping on a seriously high powered bike and riding in an unfamiliar and dangerous environment.---when you go into the military and they train you with a weapon, they would be insane to start you out with a high power m60 or larger. No, they start you out at the m16/ar15 or maybe even smaller till you understand how the gun will react.---This is the exact same thing. You could ride the bigger bikes, but would you know what to do in an emergency, are you sure you know the limitations of the bike and your skill, are you prepared to drop down some serious coinage for repairs if you do grop it(the bigger the bikes generally the larger the repair bill).
Now, if you do get a large bike first all the above i spoke of now compounds and multiplies upon itself because you will definately be addicted to the speed. I was speaking ealier of just riding around like a normal average driver should, but we all know that wont be happening. So if you get the bigger bike and start pushing the envlope it is almost certain you will end up doing something you can't undo, go back and fix, or change in any fashion.<--i'm not only speaking of your health and safty, but of the other around you that might be affected by your foolishness if you were to push to hard.
Think long and hard about what you really need for you first experience on a bike. Would you rather have something that is realatively inexpensive, forgiving, cheap to fix, something you don't have to be worried about if you lay it down, to play around on till you build upon your riding skills.
Or would you want to pay way to much for a bike that you can't control, that you end up having to spend a lot of money fixing because you were trying to showoff to your boys.
Not trying to say that you can't have a big bike for your first, its just not the prudent choice that's all.
Listen bro, these guys aren't jumping your case cause your asking questions, although at times it sure seems like it. It just that all of the riders that have made it past their first couple bikes or first riding year realize something that a person that is new bikes just can't realize yet. It takes some time to sink in that the difference between a full litre bike and a 600 is almost night and day to almost anybody. And after riding in the unforgiving traffic, especially around here, we KNOW it is very difficult for someone that is unfamiliar with street bikes to just hop on one and be able to ride without getting seriously hurt or killed.
We're just looking out for the less experienced. Hell, i've had bikes for almost 4 yr and i still know that i don't know enough. The main concearn is that you would be jumping on a seriously high powered bike and riding in an unfamiliar and dangerous environment.---when you go into the military and they train you with a weapon, they would be insane to start you out with a high power m60 or larger. No, they start you out at the m16/ar15 or maybe even smaller till you understand how the gun will react.---This is the exact same thing. You could ride the bigger bikes, but would you know what to do in an emergency, are you sure you know the limitations of the bike and your skill, are you prepared to drop down some serious coinage for repairs if you do grop it(the bigger the bikes generally the larger the repair bill).
Now, if you do get a large bike first all the above i spoke of now compounds and multiplies upon itself because you will definately be addicted to the speed. I was speaking ealier of just riding around like a normal average driver should, but we all know that wont be happening. So if you get the bigger bike and start pushing the envlope it is almost certain you will end up doing something you can't undo, go back and fix, or change in any fashion.<--i'm not only speaking of your health and safty, but of the other around you that might be affected by your foolishness if you were to push to hard.
Think long and hard about what you really need for you first experience on a bike. Would you rather have something that is realatively inexpensive, forgiving, cheap to fix, something you don't have to be worried about if you lay it down, to play around on till you build upon your riding skills.
Or would you want to pay way to much for a bike that you can't control, that you end up having to spend a lot of money fixing because you were trying to showoff to your boys.
Not trying to say that you can't have a big bike for your first, its just not the prudent choice that's all.
Ok. I totally understand. I have riden before. Im not one to say that I have had one for years, but I know the mechanics. And thank you everyone for your concern of my safety. But if I didnt hear it from the rest of the world I would have started a thread titled "do you think a 100cc is safe for my first bike?" Just wanted to ask about the specs and which one would be better for daily use. Or which I would like. Honestly I appreciate everything and everyones concern. Regardless im still getting one. But maybe a 750 with a jet kit and exhaust. Well see.
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I started off on a 00' gixxer 600...it scared the piss outta me many times.. just by the power.. even after riding the same bike for 3 years.. it still surprised me at times.. this busa.. surprises tha god shit outta me.. I'm glad I kept the 600 for so long... and I miss the 600 for the simple fact that it's light, agile and easier on economics(in my opinion) that a gixxer1000... and it's easiy as fuck to ride at slow speeds compared to this busa(or a TL) maybe it's bc it's older but.. it was a sweet fuggin bike.. Don't get me wrong, i love this busa but... holy crap its alot of power.... I don't know if I will ever be able to use it.. :o
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Originally posted by 00UrbanGixxer600
I started off on a 00' gixxer 600...it scared the piss outta me many times.. just by the power.. even after riding the same bike for 3 years.. it still surprised me at times.. this busa.. surprises tha god shit outta me.. I'm glad I kept the 600 for so long... and I miss the 600 for the simple fact that it's light, agile and easier on economics(in my opinion) that a gixxer1000... and it's easiy as fuck to ride at slow speeds compared to this busa(or a TL) maybe it's bc it's older but.. it was a sweet fuggin bike.. Don't get me wrong, i love this busa but... holy crap its alot of power.... I don't know if I will ever be able to use it.. :o
I started off on a 00' gixxer 600...it scared the piss outta me many times.. just by the power.. even after riding the same bike for 3 years.. it still surprised me at times.. this busa.. surprises tha god shit outta me.. I'm glad I kept the 600 for so long... and I miss the 600 for the simple fact that it's light, agile and easier on economics(in my opinion) that a gixxer1000... and it's easiy as fuck to ride at slow speeds compared to this busa(or a TL) maybe it's bc it's older but.. it was a sweet fuggin bike.. Don't get me wrong, i love this busa but... holy crap its alot of power.... I don't know if I will ever be able to use it.. :o
Well, im thinking 1000cc is to big, maybe a modded 750cc. What do you guys think.
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gixxer 750 ran with R1 for many years and did so successfully.. that is all I should have to say.. I've not been fortunate enough to ride a 750... the two bikes I own and cruisers.. I'll telll you how sick a 1000 is in a couple days.. 
getta go break my bro in laws bike in the right way..
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Even a 600 SS bike is too much for many beginners. Why are you looking at getting a 1000 or modded 750??? I started out on a Gixxer 600. Just like UrbanGixxer this bike has scared the shit out of me and still does sometimes. You have no idea the power these bikes make. You seriously do not need a 1000cc or a modded 750cc bike.
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I can't believe i didn't think of this earlier!!!!!!!!
Ok, you want something for an everyday rider, so that means it has to be ergonomically comfortable. You want that throghty(sp) 2-stroke sound. You want something new yet not too expensive. And last but certainly not least you want something that looks good.
My friend let me introduce you to the '03 suzuki sv650. This is perfect for what you are looking for. Great torque for all kinds of city riding and good on long stretches. Better ergonomics than say a 750--your in a more upright position which takes the stress off your shoulders and wrists. This bike is extremely agile. You get the awsome 2-stroke sound, and its easily tunable for upgrading for more performance. I like the fact that it comes as a half naked bike which i love. If you don't like that, there are some very cool looking bottom fairings that are realatively cheap to put on it. The best part about all this is that it is not an expensive bike so you don't have to worry so much about laying it down. Go by a dealership and check one out, you just may fall in love. As a matter of fact i would have bought one but i'm just not that keen about a suzuki, but if you like suzuki you'll love this bike.
Ok, you want something for an everyday rider, so that means it has to be ergonomically comfortable. You want that throghty(sp) 2-stroke sound. You want something new yet not too expensive. And last but certainly not least you want something that looks good.
My friend let me introduce you to the '03 suzuki sv650. This is perfect for what you are looking for. Great torque for all kinds of city riding and good on long stretches. Better ergonomics than say a 750--your in a more upright position which takes the stress off your shoulders and wrists. This bike is extremely agile. You get the awsome 2-stroke sound, and its easily tunable for upgrading for more performance. I like the fact that it comes as a half naked bike which i love. If you don't like that, there are some very cool looking bottom fairings that are realatively cheap to put on it. The best part about all this is that it is not an expensive bike so you don't have to worry so much about laying it down. Go by a dealership and check one out, you just may fall in love. As a matter of fact i would have bought one but i'm just not that keen about a suzuki, but if you like suzuki you'll love this bike.
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Originally posted by tampamax
I can't believe i didn't think of this earlier!!!!!!!!
Ok, you want something for an everyday rider, so that means it has to be ergonomically comfortable. You want that throghty(sp) 2-stroke sound. You want something new yet not too expensive. And last but certainly not least you want something that looks good.
My friend let me introduce you to the '03 suzuki sv650. This is perfect for what you are looking for. Great torque for all kinds of city riding and good on long stretches. Better ergonomics than say a 750--your in a more upright position which takes the stress off your shoulders and wrists. This bike is extremely agile. You get the awsome 2-stroke sound, and its easily tunable for upgrading for more performance. I like the fact that it comes as a half naked bike which i love. If you don't like that, there are some very cool looking bottom fairings that are realatively cheap to put on it. The best part about all this is that it is not an expensive bike so you don't have to worry so much about laying it down. Go by a dealership and check one out, you just may fall in love. As a matter of fact i would have bought one but i'm just not that keen about a suzuki, but if you like suzuki you'll love this bike.
I can't believe i didn't think of this earlier!!!!!!!!
Ok, you want something for an everyday rider, so that means it has to be ergonomically comfortable. You want that throghty(sp) 2-stroke sound. You want something new yet not too expensive. And last but certainly not least you want something that looks good.
My friend let me introduce you to the '03 suzuki sv650. This is perfect for what you are looking for. Great torque for all kinds of city riding and good on long stretches. Better ergonomics than say a 750--your in a more upright position which takes the stress off your shoulders and wrists. This bike is extremely agile. You get the awsome 2-stroke sound, and its easily tunable for upgrading for more performance. I like the fact that it comes as a half naked bike which i love. If you don't like that, there are some very cool looking bottom fairings that are realatively cheap to put on it. The best part about all this is that it is not an expensive bike so you don't have to worry so much about laying it down. Go by a dealership and check one out, you just may fall in love. As a matter of fact i would have bought one but i'm just not that keen about a suzuki, but if you like suzuki you'll love this bike.
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Originally posted by 954RR
That is an excellent idea but I have a feeling it is not going to be fast enough for him........
That is an excellent idea but I have a feeling it is not going to be fast enough for him........
I think the tq will more than make up for the top end, besides i'm sure a sneaky pete would suffice for the high speed runs. That'll put him up there with the big boys. On another note the sv should have enough low end grunt to pull that front wheel off the ground in second without having to clutch up. That's why one should always test drive before they buy to be sure.
All in all i think that sv650 looks hawt and is a kick to play with from what i hear. Check out the forums for the sv, i'm sure they are out there.
