The official 2011 NFL Thread.

[Projekt]

Exactly the way i feel.I like the hire and hopefully he revamps the team like Gruden did.He has coached some good players (in college)that are studs in the NFL.As much as i hate him he has Bellicheats seal of approval.

Gruden didn't revamp shit

If you mean ruining Dungy's team then yes, Gruden did "revamp".

[F4A22]

Gruden didn't revamp shit

He added roughly 18 players.Thats a shitload.

[Projekt]

He added roughly 18 players.Thats a shitload.

and ran the team into the ground. That's not revamping. That's ruining.

[CoRDiTe]

and ran the team into the ground. That's not revamping. That's ruining.

Dungy and Gruden were decent coaches. Dungy was far better IMO. I would of rather kept Gruden then go the route of Morris. I can't really blame Morris for the failures at Tampa. I blame the rest of the coaching staff. The OC, DC, and the rest of the guys. I bet anything if Morris had a better coaching staff things might of ended up different for him. If Gruden was still there itmakes me wonder how Tampa would of turned out. He was fired with a 9-7 season. The year Kiffen said he was leaving. They were 9-2 or 9-3 kiffen said he was leaving and Tampa lost the rest of the games in December.

[F4A22]

and ran the team into the ground. That's not revamping. That's ruining.

Because of the deal to get him long term yes.Short term tell me a Championship isnt worth shit.

[Graves]

He added roughly 18 players.Thats a shitload.

The starting line up wasn't much different. He won with a team already in place. Next year he made "his" big changes and what happened? Oh yeah 3rd in the NFC south lol.

See attached because I am bored shitless.

[Projekt]

Because of the deal to get him long term yes.Short term tell me a Championship isnt worth shit.

His "championship" wasn't worth shit. That was Dungy's team through and through.

[*JamReX*]

His "championship" wasn't worth shit. That was Dungy's team through and through.

Lolz .. it doesnt matter whos team it was. He was the coach when they won a superbowl. More than a lot of people can say, even with 'other peoples' teams.

[Graves]

No one is going to walk into Tampa and win a superbowl the following year right now.

[*JamReX*]

No one is going to walk into Tampa and win a superbowl the following year right now.

Agreed. But you can say that about alot of teams in the league. Actually, you can say that about MOST teams in the league. Thats shouldnt take away from what jon Gruden did.

The Vikings offered rah-rah the DC job and he instead opted to stay in washington as the DB coach lol even he knows hes no good. Poor guy.

[Projekt]

Agreed. But you can say that about alot of teams in the league. Actually, you can say that about MOST teams in the league. Thats shouldnt take away from what jon Gruden did.

The Vikings offered rah-rah the DC job and he instead opted to stay in washington as the DB coach lol even he knows hes no good. Poor guy.

It absolutely does though. What did he do when he actually changed the team?

[F4A22]

Dammit Brady just cost me $100 scoring a td before the half.

[Projekt]

What a catch by Manningham.... Holy fuck

[Graves]

Being pretty doesn't get you the ring but playing ugly surely does lol

[Projekt]