Question on "ethics"

[.:Chris:.]

IMO you should be free to adjust anything you want in the raw portion of Photoshop. Each one of those settings that's available to you was available to everyone else when they adjusted their camera settings.

All cameras shoot in raw and then convert to JPEG or some other format of your choosing. There are no sensors that provide JPEG information directly to the camera. It's called RAW because you're literally saving the raw data from the sensor and not adjusting any tone curve or sharpening or anything else. When you get a JPEG file from the camera, the camera has processed the raw data (and done JPEG compression, etc.) according to the settings that you've set (or the defaults if you're the much of a loser ).

So to me, I say edit all you want in Camera Raw, assuming you're not using any of the healing tools or anything like that. Stick to the color/curve/sharpening adjustments.

[The Chimichunga]

IMO you should be free to adjust anything you want in the raw portion of Photoshop. Each one of those settings that's available to you was available to everyone else when they adjusted their camera settings.

All cameras shoot in raw and then convert to JPEG or some other format of your choosing. There are no sensors that provide JPEG information directly to the camera. It's called RAW because you're literally saving the raw data from the sensor and not adjusting any tone curve or sharpening or anything else. When you get a JPEG file from the camera, the camera has processed the raw data (and done JPEG compression, etc.) according to the settings that you've set (or the defaults if you're the much of a loser ).

So to me, I say edit all you want in Camera Raw, assuming you're not using any of the healing tools or anything like that. Stick to the color/curve/sharpening adjustments.

Thank you. I didn't think about it from that aspect. Just another arguement to back up my point

[SaturnTypeR]

They still have darkrooms?!

[jriggs]

if you've never shot film you don't really understand the difference.


if you want to learn i'll let you bum my old camera if you promise to give it back (not joking it was my uncles pre nam)

[.:Chris:.]

They still have darkrooms?!

I sleep in one every night, I bet you do too.

[Cola]

I personally feel that it is simply converting your raw to jpeg or just shooting in jpeg to be considered unaltered.

Now another thing to take into account though is many cameras, such as the D90 have things you can do to them right on the camera with D lighting, exposure blending and many other options so technically you can edit your photo right on camera to a smaller degree. It would still be unaltered by any post processing done on the computer, but technically it was altered after the initial click.

Just a thought.

[.:Chris:.]

That's a good point too. I don't understand why contests disallow any "editing" these days. It's just a part of the process now. If you don't do any editing at all then you're just not finished IMO. If you can't edit, you need to learn. If you edit too much, you need to learn. Editing is just a part of the process and the people who can't do it properly will just weed themselves out of the contest.

With that being said, cutting and pasting pictures together for a photo contest isn't really fair.

[pressuredsol]

Quick Question i just started shooting in Raw on my Canon and all the pics came up as CR2 files, this is all new to me and i cant seem to open them on my Pc on anything even Photoshop? how do i convert these for editing and such?

[Cola]

Download the newest adobe camera raw and you should be all set.

[pressuredsol]

Thanks Cola! ill check that out

[rotarykidd]

if you've never shot film you don't really understand the difference.


if you want to learn i'll let you bum my old camera if you promise to give it back (not joking it was my uncles pre nam)

lol i understand totaly. if someone stole my minolta, heads would fuckin roll. its a 1970 something SR-T201.