It's Time To Put Up Or Shut Up!!!!!!!!

[mickey]

This is kind of a continuation thread from some previous threads.

In a nutshell, I got a Maaco "Signature Series" paint job. Look it up if you feel like it.

A certain car painter who apparently has a great fear of competition has been trying to crap all over "Maaco" in general.

I've explained several times to him that there is no such thing as "Maaco in general."

I let him know that most Maacos are franchises that are supposed to operate under corporate guidelines. Some do operate this way... and some don't. Some Maaco's are good some are bad. Maacos have all different levels and costs for paint jobs. You ain't gonna get much for $199 from any of them.

But when you start moving to $1000 or more, Maaco can be pretty good if they have a good staff working at a shop.

I found a good Maaco in Tampa and this guy just can''t stand it!

I've been waiting for this chump to pop up after I posted some pics of the paint job... and he did!

congrats, let us see it in 6 months,.

The paint job can be seen here:
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/pa...-757-56-a.html

IT'S PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME!!!!!! (See below)

I hoped I'd be hearing from you, sour grapes.

What ever happened to all that overspray on the tires, windows and trim you promised me?????? I didn't get any. Not a friggin' drop!

I promise I'll post some pics in 6 months.

What do you predict will go wrong? Remember, I watched them every step of the way. And they did it right.

Do you think Sherwin Williams products are inferior? That's the only thing thing that could cause problems.

Care to put your money where your mouth is?

How about $100?

I will put up photos of the car on June 17th and we'll do a poll on whether the paint job has held up or not.

OR

You and I can agree on a "neutral" judge here in Tampa that I can bring the car to and let him be the judge of whether or not the paint is in good shape.

Whattya say, pal? Put up or shut up.

Or are you just talking out your ass as usual?

[351coupe]

Sorry man,but I've seen close up a $2000 paint job done by Macco.They painted over the stickers on the moldings and now it's peeling up.They left the bumpers all pitted up,just sprayed them.And the inside of the hatch looked like it was still wet from wax and grease remover then was sprayed over.This was my uncles car,he went to look at it after it was first done and made them re-do it and it still is a shitty job.He called the BBB and filed a complaint with them,and I am redoing the car.

[mickey]

Sorry man,but I've seen close up a $2000 paint job done by Macco.They painted over the stickers on the moldings and now it's peeling up.They left the bumpers all pitted up,just sprayed them.And the inside of the hatch looked like it was still wet from wax and grease remover then was sprayed over.This was my uncles car,he went to look at it after it was first done and made them re-do it and it still is a shitty job.He called the BBB and filed a complaint with them,and I am redoing the car.

So he went to a bogus Maaco and some bums worked on the car. I'll say it again. There are good Maacos, bad Maacos and some that are somewhere in the middle.

Either that or he spent $199 or something hoping for a good job. And we both know a couple of hundred bucks is gonna get you.

Why didn't he bring it to you in the first place?

[PoorBoyBrian]

im sorry but as a paint and body professional i have to agree with everyone saying your maaco paint job is gonna cloud up and dull out in probably 6 months. And white hides everything! dark colors show everything. white allows a body man to do a half ass job and have the car still look good. wanna know how I know this? In the past I have done some half ass jobs on white cars and they still looked damn good.

[pure_kustoms]

A certain car painter who apparently has a great fear of competition has been trying to crap all over "Maaco" in general.

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i am not afraid of competition, i live 2 hours north of tampa, i have a $4,000 job in the prep area right now. you came on here asking for advice, you got some that you did not want to hear, and i will say it again, congrats,,,,..
and as far as your petty bet, no thanks, again i am 2 hours north, you can take pics of all the good parts, but let any painter see it up close and i assure you they can find at least 10 bad spots.

[BAMF]

Why didn't he bring it to you in the first place?

In a few months to a year or two, you'll probably be asking yourself the exact same thing.

[willyspaintshop]

ill take $1000 that it is no good in a year! a bad clearcoat will start to wear out in a few months. sherwin williams is not even recognized as good paint for cars. your best hope is that they prepped it correctly and used a quality clearcoat - which i highly doubt since ppg or high matrix clearcoat can run for $200 alone.

[Hybrid_Ej1]

My Car was painted over a year and ago from Maaco and still shines no clearcoat problem or anything like that

[pure_kustoms]

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/pa...ml#post7341869

[killerMikeD]

Can't believe i missed this thread!

I do have to kinda agree with the different levels of macco some better than the next, maybe he did get a good deal for a paint job, and maybe he even got some quality work, chances are low though. Only time will tell.. and pics of the car dont do anything, if any professional were to look at the car in person im sure they can find problems, shit i can even find problems on a 6k dollar paint job. Only thing I can hope is that you had some people that really cared about what they were doing, and were atleast half assed educated in refinishing.

I can spot things that prolly no one else would because we as professionals know what to look for, and the average person may not ever notice since we do it every day, so our good and your good my differ greatly.

Finally macco is a shitty place to get a good paint job, that will truely last, great place for a quck shine for a little cash,ESP if you are going to sell it! just dont expect it to last long. The materials are shit, the workers are underpaid, but the marketing is GREAT, they even have rhymes (see Sig).

I offer my services FOR FREE to look at any ones car that was painted by macco(with reciept) , and says their work is GREAT, and i will guarantee that I will find issues, or inproper repairs that will have you second guessing your Quality job for cheap, or i will gIve you 100.00 cash!

I am a Collision Repair Technician, with 7+ years Working in a collision shop, and been in the business since I was a kid helping my father, even helped spray a car when I was 10. I am ASE Master certified, I-Car certified 24+ Classes, and a Certified welder Through I-car. I currently work for a shop in Tampa known for their Quality, and that specializes in high end European Cars.

[mickey]

My Car was painted over a year and ago from Maaco and still shines no clearcoat problem or anything like that

Nope. Sorry, pal. You have to be lying. Or you own a Maaco. Or you work at a Maaco. Or something like that. No Maaco paint job last six months, forget about a year.

[SneezinCD5]

It all depends on which one you goto. I was a painter for the one in Ocala and as stated before, I was pretty impressed. Its true that they don't take anything off the car but as far as painting stickers and whatnot, I have never seen that. They sanded the car with 400-500 on a DA. Didn't even think they would go that far. Once it was in the booth, EVERY car was wiped with wax/grease remover and then wiped with a tack cloth. After that sealer/base/clear was applied unless you got the special which was a urethane. Everything was either Nason or DuPont Chromabase. Im not saying that they are the beat but I have see some REALLY poor quality paintjobs roll out of other local shops and the people paid $2000+. If you prep it yourself and remove everything, I see no problem getting you car painted at Maaco. They are all different and owned by different people so I am only speaking for the one I worked at.

[Drift2it]

ITs not the paint or the place if you got a good painter that knows how to prep a car the right way and knows his products you will get a heck of a paint job.....,.....again is not the paint and place its......who paints the cars!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mickey]

What's happening here???

Two guys in a row saying it's possible to get a decent job out of a Maaco, and one of them is a FORMER Maaco employee who would have nothing to fear if he trashed them!??!?!?

Nah, these guys must be lying. I don't know why they would, but they have to be lying. We all know there has never been a good paint job that rolled out of a Maaco, right?

[mickey]

Its true that they don't take anything off the car ....

I must have gone to a good one. They took stuff of my car.

Hey Maaco! Where's my overspray??? Lots of guys here promised me I'd get a ton of overspray and I didn't get any!!! What a ripoff.