My brakes are being a bitch.

[KRUKED]

pass. rear 1st, drvr rear 2nd, pass. front 3rd and last but not least? iv alwas done it the other way around ....neerest to Master cyl 1st..ect.

I've been told by several people to start the furthest away first and that's what I've gone by. Haven't had any problems doing it to this date and haven't been told I was doing it wrong yet either. Who knows.

[obituary]

hum .guess it dosent matter then lol

[Empire]

it doesn't "really" matter

most people will argue the fact that you are probably using more fresh fluid when you start at the front since you begin to pull some of the fresh fluid from the front, all the way to the back before getting all of the old crap out.
they will also argue that if you start at the front, there is a higher chance of getting air back into the lines because you are "going over" what you have already done. The idea being that the rear typically start at 1 line coming out of the BMC so it is less likely to suck up some air once you have flushed them through.

I don't know how much I believe in all of that. I don't know that it really makes a difference either way. I have always done it from the furthermost point first just because it gives me a pattern to follow. But I also go back and do each one a little bit more once the whole system has been flushed, just in case.
for the average user, using the valvoline 3&4 brake fluid (which is the absolute best "cheap" fluid you can get) It doesn't make much difference. But for the heavy user, that has a need for better brake fluid (i personally use superblue mainly because it has the temps i want, and you can get it blue, or gold, which makes flushing the system easier, in my eyes, just alternate colors) then making sure you get all of the old stuff out is a major issue because just a little bit of old fluid can dramatically lower braking performance.
but like i said, for the average user, just making sure the air is out is good enough.

[RodFarva]

Regardless of my stupidity this thread has good info in it. Sidenote: While changing my fuel filter today I yanked the fuse and as the engine died I heard a hissing noise coming from the drivers side firewall area. It lasted a few seconds after the engine stopped, I'll still be vacuum bleeding the brakes after lunch. Report then.

[RodFarva]

The brakes have been 100% bled, over-bled infact there is nothing but fresh fluid in the system. The brakes are still doing the same thing. I did get a hissing sound coming from the booster on the "up" stroke of the pedal. I tried to record it but I couldn't catch it on the mic.

[KRUKED]

I remember once when I did pads all the way around that I had no brakes after doing so. I drove to Just Brakes, (using the e-brake) so they could check it out. Once I got there, they were closing and refused me survive even after I offered them a $200 tip,, (I was determined to have them diagnose the problem). They still refused. When leaving, I got roughly 3 miles away and all of a sudden my brakes were working just fine. What happened, the fuck if I know.

[Empire]

The brakes have been 100% bled, over-bled infact there is nothing but fresh fluid in the system. The brakes are still doing the same thing. I did get a hissing sound coming from the booster on the "up" stroke of the pedal. I tried to record it but I couldn't catch it on the mic.

hissing sound?
like a vacuum leak type of hissing sound?
have you tried to test drive it yet? do you have any stopping power at all?
if you can rule out air being in the lines. and you can rule out the calipers being bad, and you can establish the BMC is actually working because you have stopping power, then I would have to start looking at the booster as the problem.
Test drive it with and without the vacuum line hooked up to the booster
(plug it up so you don't have that massive vacuum leak)

I remember once when I did pads all the way around that I had no brakes after doing so. I drove to Just Brakes, (using the e-brake) so they could check it out. Once I got there, they were closing and refused me survive even after I offered them a $200 tip,, (I was determined to have them diagnose the problem). They still refused. When leaving, I got roughly 3 miles away and all of a sudden my brakes were working just fine. What happened, the fuck if I know.

I've heard of that before.
Most of the time, from what I've noticed, people will talk about not having any stopping power after a brake job for the first several miles. Typically, I've found, they ended up getting greasy crap on the rotors and it takes a while to burn off.
beyond that, I can only guess what would cause that problem and then magically fix itself.

[RodFarva]

hissing sound?
like a vacuum leak type of hissing sound?
have you tried to test drive it yet? do you have any stopping power at all?
if you can rule out air being in the lines. and you can rule out the calipers being bad, and you can establish the BMC is actually working because you have stopping power, then I would have to start looking at the booster as the problem.
Test drive it with and without the vacuum line hooked up to the booster
(plug it up so you don't have that massive vacuum leak)

Yeah like a fresh bottle of coke, not loud but not loud enough to hear inside the car, but it lasted like 3-4 seconds. Yeah I drive it around my yard almost everyday. I have lots of stopping power, the car stops quickly. Stopping isn't the problem, It never really was the problem was the pedal not returning. I'll plug the vacuum line and do a stopping test.