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    Why even bother with Government Motors? And when are electric cars going to be targeted at performance seekers? aka "tuners"

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    National Electric Drag Racing Association
    Tesla Motors - High performance electric vehicles. Available now.

    But, seriously... electric cars need to take hold in the mainstream market to be successful. The "tuner" crowd will start playing with them when they become readily available. Control system software hacks, wiring hacks, adding extra batteries, upgrading controllers and motors... all of those things will happen eventually. Think about how it happens in the gas-engine car world. Honda makes 10 different models of cars and their parts are interchangeable for the past 3 or 4 generations... when there are at least a FEW different electric vehicles available from the same manufacturer and those cars start showing up on the used market for cheap, and salvage parts start becoming available... look out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    National Electric Drag Racing Association
    Tesla Motors - High performance electric vehicles. Available now.

    But, seriously... electric cars need to take hold in the mainstream market to be successful. The "tuner" crowd will start playing with them when they become readily available. Control system software hacks, wiring hacks, adding extra batteries, upgrading controllers and motors... all of those things will happen eventually. Think about how it happens in the gas-engine car world. Honda makes 10 different models of cars and their parts are interchangeable for the past 3 or 4 generations... when there are at least a FEW different electric vehicles available from the same manufacturer and those cars start showing up on the used market for cheap, and salvage parts start becoming available... look out.
    And they'll still get raped by a good old fashioned ICE powered V8.

    Its possible to make an electric car real fast - they set landspeed records left and right in them....granted they're more like a nuclear reactor on wheels than a Prius, and theyre outta juice by the time they're done with the pass. Its just not gonna happen for regular cars. I mean, it might, but it would be just as stupid as the people who make their 16 second Civic a 15 second Civic and think its a racecar, until a Honda Odyssey pulls up next to them and hangs door to door with them.


    And before all of you start, please...quit nutswinging on the Tesla. Its not that fast in the 1/4 and its expensive as all hell for what you get. Comperably priced cars would walk all over it. Hell, the Vette base model, which gets 29mpg cruising, would completely obliterate it at around half the price.
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    It's not gonna happen soon. It's not gonna happen quickly. It might not even be fully realized in our lifetime. But, rest assured, electric vehicles are the future.

    As for drag-cars... electric or gas, a purpose built drag car is designed to go down the strip without concern for range beyond that. I just included that link to show that there ARE motorsports enthusiasts who are already playing with electric cars.

    C'mon, we are men. Give us something that moves and we'll find a way to compete in it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    It's not gonna happen soon. It's not gonna happen quickly. It might not even be fully realized in our lifetime. But, rest assured, electric vehicles are the future.

    As for drag-cars... electric or gas, a purpose built drag car is designed to go down the strip without concern for range beyond that. I just included that link to show that there ARE motorsports enthusiasts who are already playing with electric cars.

    C'mon, we are men. Give us something that moves and we'll find a way to compete in it!
    As that does nothing for truly 'going green' since electricity still has to come from somewhere, I.E. the coal plants that this part of the US depends on for their electricity (which the green-hippies have a VENDETTA against [well, more specifically, the Hydrocarbons they produce]), I disagree.

    I think Hydrogen fuel cells are the future. Electric is a...holdover..at best. By the time we've got the technology to make electric cars comperable to ICE powered vehicles in their price range, I think we'll also have found real alternative fuel sources, not just some gimmick switching gasoline for a power plant's coal.


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    Oh, for sure. At this point, I agree. Not much better to exchange coal emissions for gasoline emissions.

    The electric vehicles of the future will likely be fueled by hydrogen (or some other source), but... they'll be electric, not internal combustion.

    The current crop of hybrids and plug-in (to coal-fired power) electrics are just a stepping stone for what's to come.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    C'mon, we are men. Give us something that moves and we'll find a way to compete in it!
    I remember a quote once that said "give two men two of anyhing and they will race them" and racing betters the breed. And the breed evolves. Oh I almost forgot evoloution does not exist.

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