Article on Biofuels vs Food Prices.

**Zate** · 07-18-2008, 10:51 AM

interesting read.. especially when they show how differing groups of people spin statistics and studies to further their own agenda.

Opinion: Biofuels, Food Prices and Global Warming Roundup : Gas 2.0

blacksheep-1 · 07-18-2008, 11:03 AM

Interesting read, personally, I don't care about the United Nation's organizations, let's do what's right for America instead of waiting on all the UN weasels to get their hands in the mix. IMO the UN is one of the most corrupt organizations on this planet.
Now, to ethanol, Brazil has a huge, refined ethanol industry, it grows sugar that is specifically created for ethanol production, it cannot be a food source (well maybe, if you could eat a bowling ball, you could probably eat this ethanol- sugar) the residue is made into other products.
I really don't see how that is a bad thing or effects food prices.

blacksheep-1 · 07-25-2008, 07:21 AM

Yeah, what he said

CJ5cruiser · 07-25-2008, 12:18 PM

or you could use a plant like jatropha that is poisonous and cannot be consumed. it grows well in all conditions and its not part of our food supply. you can get the oil from it seed which are actually quite big.

**TIM TIM TIM** · 07-25-2008, 04:31 PM

i just saw some shit on the news a few weeks ago about some hybrid grass some guy made and says its more efficiant at making ethonal then corn is

projectLS · 08-13-2008, 11:58 PM

^^ yup seen a grass that can also be distelled into biodiesel

mow your lawn...power your shizz

Wolfeyes88 · 08-31-2008, 05:19 PM

There's one crop that produces more biomass(stalks, stems and leaves) than corn, more oil per acre than soybeans or corn, the seeds can be fed to animals after being pressed, or alternatively, the seed cake can be used in ethanol production and then fed to the animals, and it produces a few other usable products, such as fiber for cloth making.

It grows extremely well in poor soil, even in soil where little to no other fuel crops will grow(without serious fertilization and chemical treatment). It can be harvested in as little as three months. In all but the northern most states the growing season is 8 months to year-round. It can be planted very densely and still produce acceptable quality biomass, and it's relatively low maintenance. It has low watering requirements, it requires little little to no fertilizer(especially when basic crop rotation is used) and it's resistant to nearly all pests.

Sounds great right?

There's only one TINY problem...

It's Illegal in 50 states....

07-18-2008, 10:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zate Admin Car: 2008 Civic EX. My TRGarage Tampa : 2147483647	Article on Biofuels vs Food Prices. interesting read.. especially when they show how differing groups of people spin statistics and studies to further their own agenda. Opinion: Biofuels, Food Prices and Global Warming Roundup : Gas 2.0

07-18-2008, 11:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
blacksheep-1 Registered User Car: 93 and 99 mustangs My TRGarage st. pete : 467031574	Interesting read, personally, I don't care about the United Nation's organizations, let's do what's right for America instead of waiting on all the UN weasels to get their hands in the mix. IMO the UN is one of the most corrupt organizations on this planet. Now, to ethanol, Brazil has a huge, refined ethanol industry, it grows sugar that is specifically created for ethanol production, it cannot be a food source (well maybe, if you could eat a bowling ball, you could probably eat this ethanol- sugar) the residue is made into other products. I really don't see how that is a bad thing or effects food prices.

07-25-2008, 07:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
blacksheep-1 Registered User Car: 93 and 99 mustangs My TRGarage st. pete : 467031574	Yeah, what he said

07-25-2008, 12:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
CJ5cruiser Registered User Car: My TRGarage : 42949718	or you could use a plant like jatropha that is poisonous and cannot be consumed. it grows well in all conditions and its not part of our food supply. you can get the oil from it seed which are actually quite big.

07-25-2008, 04:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
TIM TIM TIM could be worse Car: 99 ls teg, 04 rx8 My TRGarage salt lake city, utah : 1431548846	i just saw some shit on the news a few weeks ago about some hybrid grass some guy made and says its more efficiant at making ethonal then corn is

08-13-2008, 11:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
projectLS keep it sleeping Car: 2kdc2, 2k7gd3 My TRGarage SE. Tampa : 282150368	^^ yup seen a grass that can also be distelled into biodiesel mow your lawn...power your shizz

08-31-2008, 05:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wolfeyes88 Wolfpup Car: My TRGarage Spring Hell... : 1707572	There's one crop that produces more biomass(stalks, stems and leaves) than corn, more oil per acre than soybeans or corn, the seeds can be fed to animals after being pressed, or alternatively, the seed cake can be used in ethanol production and then fed to the animals, and it produces a few other usable products, such as fiber for cloth making. It grows extremely well in poor soil, even in soil where little to no other fuel crops will grow(without serious fertilization and chemical treatment). It can be harvested in as little as three months. In all but the northern most states the growing season is 8 months to year-round. It can be planted very densely and still produce acceptable quality biomass, and it's relatively low maintenance. It has low watering requirements, it requires little little to no fertilizer(especially when basic crop rotation is used) and it's resistant to nearly all pests. Sounds great right? There's only one TINY problem... It's Illegal in 50 states....