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    bad ground?

    Okay i recently picked up a 91 240sx & im having a problem getting it running correctly.

    Symptoms :
    Gauge cluster either sits @ 0 mph or jumps around like a wild child.
    Car runs fine till it reaches full operating temp then once it hits 1800-2300rpm's it starts to hesitate/jerks then will clear up.Also Cars CEL pops on when it starts to hesitate/fall on its face.
    Car idles poorly.

    What iv done:
    Changed the plugs
    Checked the timing
    Gone over the few grounds that i see.
    Fresh gas/seafoam


    I found a bad engine ground that was nearly cut in half Replaced it the car ran fine for about 4 hours then started acting up again. Could there be another ground somewhere that is faulty or anyone have any other suggestions? Maybe a bad ground to the fuel pump?

    Any response is highly appreciated
    Thanks James

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    & is there really any way of checking if a ground is bad?

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    Is the cel light still poping up? What codes are showing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoRDiTe View Post
    Is the cel light still poping up? What codes are showing?
    it comes on & off. Only comes on in those rpm ranges.
    When i checked the ecu for codes the other day it came back code 55 - Other Malfunction. CONSULT Terminal Required & i have no idea what that means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls_[eg]hatch View Post
    it comes on & off. Only comes on in those rpm ranges.
    When i checked the ecu for codes the other day it came back code 55 - Other Malfunction. CONSULT Terminal Required & i have no idea what that means.
    Sounds like 1 of three things. Defective or incorrectly inserted PROM or a defective ECM.

    I'm assuming this is a SOHC ???


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoRDiTe View Post
    Sounds like 1 of three things. Defective or incorrectly inserted PROM or a defective ECM.

    I'm assuming this is a SOHC ???
    Prom? is that like the lil chip they use when chipping the ecu? & ecm? Ecu? lol
    Its a dual cam ka

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    Coolant temp sensor. Or knock sensor, but more likely the temp sensor. As far as your cluster, its gotta be some bad wiring. Check the harness under your pass side fender to see if it got chewed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KendallH View Post
    Coolant temp sensor. Or knock sensor, but more likely the temp sensor. As far as your cluster, its gotta be some bad wiring. Check the harness under your pass side fender to see if it got chewed up.
    thanks man, the car is bone stock but i think the previous owner had suspension on it so could be a possibility.
    Like i said when i first fixed the ground the mph worked fine didnt seem very accurate but worked. & then a few hours later just went right back to 0
    Last edited by Ls_[eg]hatch; 08-15-2011 at 10:43 PM.

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    & i hope its not the knock sensor i dont wanna remove the intake mani & shit...looks impossible to get to without doing so.

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    Since you said its related to temp I'd definitely do the temp sensor first (the one for the ecu, red connector, next to your upper water neck). If it is the knock sensor, its not impossible to replace, but if you want you can delete it with a resistor (google it). G/L dude and PM me if you have any questions or anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by KendallH View Post
    Since you said its related to temp I'd definitely do the temp sensor first (the one for the ecu, red connector, next to your upper water neck). If it is the knock sensor, its not impossible to replace, but if you want you can delete it with a resistor (google it). G/L dude and PM me if you have any questions or anything
    thanks alot man & will do seems like your not too far from me.

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    check fuel pressure?




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    Alternator maybe not putting full power to the ecu causing the gauges to bounce around. Try this, put a battery charger on it and let it idle and heat up see what happens. Or check the voltage could be a bad regulator in the alternator too

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    Fixed it, not sure what it was but i found a flaw from in the body harness fixed that, & got new coolant temp,knock sensor , & o2 sensor. & its fine now.

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