World's Best Sleepers (Pics)

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Originally Posted by Devils_Advocate

Good call.

Great minds think alike I never saw it there.

no big deal, that thing is so badass, it deserves to be mentioned twice!

[FoxHondaRider]

for a stock vehicle GNX is the ultimate sleeper. those that dont know think its a monte carlo, those that know the difference think that car is fast. cant wait to feel what 500hp is like driving a GNX in late July.

[1BADP71]

Originally Posted by FoxHondaRider

for a stock vehicle GNX is the ultimate sleeper. those that dont know think its a monte carlo, those that know the difference think that car is fast. cant wait to feel what 500hp is like driving a GNX in late July.

beg to differ. I would have to put it on an evo... there are 14 different models of the car and most of the time unless you know an evo , you might think its a ralli art till it pulls on you

everybody knows what a gnx looks like .

how about a crappy looking 1st gen talon with 8 inch tires that can run 8's in the 1/4 ?

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Here is a little known factory Sleeper. The Oldsmobile Achieve SCX.
Built to compete in SCCA factory racing classes, the SCX was quite a competitor. If offered 180Hp from it's Quad 4 powerplant. quite a lot back in 1992-94 from a 4 banger. And, it had upgraded suspenison, brakes, etc.



Another unkown factory sleeper....Early 90's Dodge Spirit R/T Turbo

from Wikipedia:
In 1991, Chrysler introduced the Spirit R/T, the centerpiece of which was a version of the 2.2 L engine with a 16-valve DOHC head designed by Lotus, who won a design competition against Maserati and Hans Hermann. Fed by a Garrett Systems intercooled turbocharger, this Turbo III engine produced 224 hp (167 kW) and 217 lb·ft (294 N·m). The R/T also featured unique interior and exterior trim to set itself apart from other Spirits. The only available transmission in the R/T was a heavy-duty A568 5-speed manual transmission built by Chrysler's New Process Gear division (located in Syracuse, New York) with a gearset supplied by Getrag. Heavy-duty vented four wheel disc brakes were standard equipment, with optional anti-lock brakes. Color-keyed 15-inch alloy wheels were standard, with P205/60R15 tires.


1991 Dodge Spirit R/T engine bayAt the time, the R/T was advertised as "the fastest sedan made in America", and one of the quickest performance sedans under $40,000, with Chrysler placing its performance above the BMW M5. It could reach 60 mph (97 km/h) in 5.8 seconds, according to Car and Driver, making it one of the quickest front wheel drive cars ever offered in the American market. It was chosen as Motor Trend magazine's "Domestic Sport Sedan of the Year", beating the Ford Taurus SHO for 1991 and 1992

[FoxHondaRider]

Originally Posted by Devils_Advocate

beg to differ. everybody knows what a gnx looks like .

deffinately not true. maybe everybody thats a car enthusiast or something but I have seen plenty that see a Monte Carlo and say "hey is that a Grand National!?" Tail lights clearly give it away if you know what one looks like. Even then the body style does not look like it would be a fast car. The EVO even if your not a car enthusiast you know what one looks like. Even these girls back in high school that I used to have lunch with knew what they were and they only know that the gas is on the rightand brake is on the left steer with the wheel. They dont look like they would be slow either. Maybe i'm alone on this but the older EVO's had an aggressive look to them. The newest ones I think look terrible but w/e thats just my opinion.

[Superluminal]

How about the Dodge Omni GLH?



When the car was released in 1984, this thing was one of quickest sports compacts you could by. The model GLH means "Goes Like Hell", chosen by Shelby. It sported a 2.2L I4 turbocharged engine on 9psi of boost. Coupled with a 2200lb. curb weight the car was a riot from the factory. Car & Driver got the car down the 1/4 mile in 14.8 seconds at 98mph. With the right tires and some seat time, there are a few that hit the low 14s bone stock. This was almost unheard of for a 4 cylinder car, let alone back in 1984. Of course like any turbo car, you can turn the boost up on these things and you get this:

Bolt ons Dodge Omni GLH on 15psi:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...EAT_103620.htm

[1BADP71]

that video of 15 psi you posted is extremely slow .. there is something wrong with that car. My old h22 all motor delSol could beat that.

[Superluminal]

Originally Posted by Devils_Advocate

that video of 15 psi you posted is extremely slow .. there is something wrong with that car. My old h22 all motor delSol could beat that.

Did you not notice that he was spinning every single gear, even smoking the tires from a roll in 4th gear? The video was made for fun to show the power of the car making the stock wheels and tires it's bitch.

By the way that car went 13.0@110mph, stock motor, stock turbo, full bolt ons, 15psi. What did your DelSol trap at again on stock motor? What year was the H22 made again? Oh yeah, over 10 years later.

You have to give that car credit. Many of the SR20DET 240 guys can't get it done like that on stock turbo\15psi.

[Superluminal]

How about this work van:

11 second work van. If only all gas company work w- Video

[1BADP71]

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Did you not notice that he was spinning every single gear, even smoking the tires from a roll in 4th gear? The video was made for fun to show the power of the car making the stock wheels and tires it's bitch.

By the way that car went 13.0@110mph, stock motor, stock turbo, full bolt ons, 15psi. What did your DelSol trap at again on stock motor? What year was the H22 made again? Oh yeah, over 10 years later.

You have to give that car credit. Many of the SR20DET 240 guys can't get it done like that on stock turbo\15psi.

15 psi and it only went 13.0 ? seriously that is quite slow. esp. for the weight savings he has done . no bumpers? not quite a sleeper. I had 0 psi and hung with multiple 13.4 cars and I didn't do any sorts of weight savings.. anybody can spin some small tires in a light car with a little bit of power.

I know of a certain stock 2.0 with stock turbo at 16 psi that went 12.3 in a heavier car. that omni is not the best you can come up with for that car. I also had a friend with an omni glhs that would make the one in the video look like a festiva running on 3 cylinders.

The age of the engines has nothing to do with anything

[Orion ZyGarian]

Oh yeah? My car got 100 HP just from an intake, exhaust, and boost controller. Or in ghetto speak, inz and outz n twisty knobz

[Superluminal]

Originally Posted by Devils_Advocate

15 psi and it only went 13.0 ? seriously that is quite slow. esp. for the weight savings he has done . no bumpers? not quite a sleeper. I had 0 psi and hung with multiple 13.4 cars and I didn't do any sorts of weight savings.. anybody can spin some small tires in a light car with a little bit of power.

I know of a certain stock 2.0 with stock turbo at 16 psi that went 12.3 in a heavier car. that omni is not the best you can come up with for that car. I also had a friend with an omni glhs that would make the one in the video look like a festiva running on 3 cylinders.

The age of the engines has nothing to do with anything

You obviously have no idea or experience on turbocharged vehicles. Did you miss the part where I said "stock turbo". Just because it's running 15psi, doesn't mean it's going to pull like a Supra. The efficiency of a small stock turbocharger isn't going to net huge power gains. The car in the video is probably putting out less than 200whp. Once the turbocharger is upgraded to a larger unit, it becomes much more efficient at the same boost level, which in turn will net you more power.

Also keep in mind all stock turbos are not equal, some are larger than others, which in turn, helps to car do better in performance. For instance an SR20DET, that comes with a T25G will only net about 240whp at 14psi. That's only good for low 13s, and that's the cap for the stock turbo. Other cars, such as a STI, EVO, SRT-4, and MazdaSpeed 3, come with a larger and more efficient turbo from the factory, so you can crank the boost up to 22psi and get the car into the 12s easily.

It appears you're having problems putting things into context. This car was released in 1984 and it was faster than the Mustang 5.0 at the time. Other than a handful of sports cars, there wasn't much, if anything, that could compete against it in its category.

On the contrary, when the H22 came out for the Prelude, it was considered average. By this time there were many sports cars in the low 14s and in the 13s stock. So at the time, it wasn't really impressive. Today, a Dodge Omni GLH is considered average performance, but back in 1984.... it was fast for what is was.

[1BADP71]

Originally Posted by Superluminal

You obviously have no idea or experience on turbocharged vehicles. Did you miss the part where I said "stock turbo". Just because it's running 15psi, doesn't mean it's going to pull like a Supra. The efficiency of a small stock turbocharger isn't going to net huge power gains. The car in the video is probably putting out less than 200whp. Once the turbocharger is upgraded to a larger unit, it becomes much more efficient at the same boost level, which in turn will net you more power.

Also keep in mind all stock turbos are not equal, some are larger than others, which in turn, helps to car do better in performance. For instance an SR20DET, that comes with a T25G will only net about 240whp at 14psi. That's only good for low 13s, and that's the cap for the stock turbo. Other cars, such as a STI, EVO, SRT-4, and MazdaSpeed 3, come with a larger and more efficient turbo from the factory, so you can crank the boost up to 22psi and get the car into the 12s easily.

It appears you're having problems putting things into context. This car was released in 1984 and it was faster than the Mustang 5.0 at the time. Other than a handful of sports cars, there wasn't much, if anything, that could compete against it in its category.

On the contrary, when the H22 came out for the Prelude, it was considered average. By this time there were many sports cars in the low 14s and in the 13s stock. So at the time, it wasn't really impressive. Today, a Dodge Omni GLH is considered average performance, but back in 1984.... it was fast for what is was.

Thanks for the "schoolin" on turbos but I have driven, built, and owned turbo vehicles before. none of which were hack jobs either. You missed my point completely when I said I knew of a Heavier car, with ALSO a stock turbo and smaller engine (1993 2.0 vs your 1984 2.2), putting out only 1 psi more, doing .7 better in the 1/4 .. hence the reason I said the omni in your video was slow. even with no bumpers.

Stating that your video'd car has less than 200 hp .. that sure is a mean street sleeper , and the prelude is in no way considered a sports car. but when it came with 100 hp per liter n/a and equipped with an lsd .. well that was just honda doing their thing.


here is a link to the cars you are trying to describe to me. if you want to read up on them a little more before you post again.

The Dodge Omni GLH, Dodge Omni GLHS, and Dodge Charger GLH-S

[shinmei2006]

lol at 100hp per liter in a prelude...thats bullshit...or you just cant do math

[1BADP71]

Originally Posted by shinmei2006

lol at 100hp per liter in a prelude...thats bullshit...or you just cant do math

yea that's it, I have a problem with math

heres a link for the nissan guys who are in the dark..

Prelude Type S Technical Highlights