Need Serious Opinions And Ideas

CadetLD · 10-20-2006, 01:41 AM

Well, this is a rather big isue for my friend (and hopefuly future buisness partner) Paul and I. For a couple of years now we ahve been dwelling and planing on the idea of going to school and later opening up, well, a unique place of buisness. Now the ball is finaly rolling and we are preparing to go to tech school, probubly UTI. Our idea is after we are done with school and have some knowledge and skills, we want to open a place similar to the police vehicle training lot in St. Pete where Nasa-X dose autocross events. Aprox 2 acre lot along ulmerton that belongs to my friends parents, may be the location of our future buisness.

The first step to our idea would be to pave all or most of the area so we can begin alowing small events to take place there (autocross, drifting, ect.) Now the problen that lies there is zoning. How hard can it be to get zoning for such a place of buisness? Now mind you that there is a machine shop (Heniflet Precision Products) that runs late at nite there but i can imagine that tires howling outside would be much more noticable. Is there a petition that we can make that would actualy pose as some kind of proof that this idea would help keep drifting off the streets and into a safe legal invoronment? It seems there is nowhere in P.C. to do this.

Then much later we hope to start a shop and mabey our own line of products.

Didnt know where to put this so feel free to move if you think it will gain more attention there.

I know there have been similar threads to this but this is searious, Paul and I are dedicated to persuing this dream.

Sorry for the long-winded post, but there is simply too much to say at the time about this. I realy need input from all of you who would seariously consider help in the making of this. All I need is legal info, ideas, thoughts, constructive critisism, other questions that should be asked, ect...

Thank you all so much for reading this and thanks in advance for your input. I know you all can help.

Shane

CadetLD · 10-20-2006, 01:45 AM

OH btw, if your ever on AIM please hit me up. There is so much more to talk about. If you need to call me, send me a PM and I will give you my number.

thanks again

Shane

Silvia_San · 10-20-2006, 02:05 AM

paul merril paul? haha ptec.

CadetLD · 10-20-2006, 02:49 AM

Yeah, you know him? I know im goin to UTI, I hope Paull will go too but ptec is better than nothing.

10-20-2006, 03:16 AM

sounds like a plan

Hotcakes0007 · 10-20-2006, 03:55 AM

id take it serious when you learn how to spell the word.

CadetLD · 10-20-2006, 04:34 AM

What word was that? BTW, FUCK THE GRAMMAR POLICE! You cant tell me it was some of that hard to read "OMFGDORIDORIFTMFW!!!!!!!!!1111one11" bullshit you see in half the threads here.

box240mod · 10-20-2006, 11:01 AM

i am going to say it will be near to impossible to get that zoning along ulmerton. dont get me wrong i would LOVE it. I think you might aim for and area just outside of tampa where the undeveloped areas are. I understand you already have a property though. Look into the value of the original property and look at cost of property somewhere less congested. might be able to get something workable. goodluck

CadetLD · 10-20-2006, 03:56 PM

What actualy prevents someone from geting the right zoning for something like that, the noise? Or it is something else?

Thanks again,

Shane

CadetLD · 10-22-2006, 01:15 AM

Anybody?

10-22-2006, 01:19 AM

call the city...find out the zoning rules...

**RoadRacer** · 10-22-2006, 10:33 AM

Yea, call the city. Be prepared to spend a lot of money "convincing" the city council to change the zoning, if they even will. If there are houses close by, it will be close to impossible.
Primus built a test track in off of 41 in Manatee county in the middle of an industrial area surrounded by Orange groves and people still complain about the noise. Good luck, let us know how is goes.

Funk · 10-22-2006, 02:42 PM

noise ordinances and safety issues (dangerous activities capable of causing fire)

you better get this shit done within the next 6 months
if you really want, because people are already working on it.

CadetLD · 10-23-2006, 04:31 AM

Okay, I have an idea about the noise issue and might help with safety too. If you have ever seen a house right on the courner of an intersection, sometimes people will make a mount of dirt thats angled in a way that it reflects the street noise away from the house and up into the air. If I did that on the side of the land but facing inward instead of outward mabey it would help keep the noise down? Plus it would act as a barier if a car went off course. Do you think that would be effective?

Thanks again fellas,

Shane

10-20-2006, 01:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	Need Serious Opinions And Ideas Well, this is a rather big isue for my friend (and hopefuly future buisness partner) Paul and I. For a couple of years now we ahve been dwelling and planing on the idea of going to school and later opening up, well, a unique place of buisness. Now the ball is finaly rolling and we are preparing to go to tech school, probubly UTI. Our idea is after we are done with school and have some knowledge and skills, we want to open a place similar to the police vehicle training lot in St. Pete where Nasa-X dose autocross events. Aprox 2 acre lot along ulmerton that belongs to my friends parents, may be the location of our future buisness. The first step to our idea would be to pave all or most of the area so we can begin alowing small events to take place there (autocross, drifting, ect.) Now the problen that lies there is zoning. How hard can it be to get zoning for such a place of buisness? Now mind you that there is a machine shop (Heniflet Precision Products) that runs late at nite there but i can imagine that tires howling outside would be much more noticable. Is there a petition that we can make that would actualy pose as some kind of proof that this idea would help keep drifting off the streets and into a safe legal invoronment? It seems there is nowhere in P.C. to do this. Then much later we hope to start a shop and mabey our own line of products. Didnt know where to put this so feel free to move if you think it will gain more attention there. I know there have been similar threads to this but this is searious, Paul and I are dedicated to persuing this dream. Sorry for the long-winded post, but there is simply too much to say at the time about this. I realy need input from all of you who would seariously consider help in the making of this. All I need is legal info, ideas, thoughts, constructive critisism, other questions that should be asked, ect... Thank you all so much for reading this and thanks in advance for your input. I know you all can help. Shane

10-20-2006, 01:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	OH btw, if your ever on AIM please hit me up. There is so much more to talk about. If you need to call me, send me a PM and I will give you my number. thanks again Shane

10-20-2006, 02:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Silvia_San bitches ain't shit Car: Q45, RHD Cressida My TRGarage Seminizzle : 1098127544	paul merril paul? haha ptec.

10-20-2006, 02:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	Yeah, you know him? I know im goin to UTI, I hope Paull will go too but ptec is better than nothing.

10-20-2006, 03:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Shinmei2006 Guest Car: My TRGarage	sounds like a plan

10-20-2006, 03:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hotcakes0007 Project.S Car: S13 Coupe, 2004 zx-10r (Green) My TRGarage The Place Where The Black People Are Lazy And The White People Are Just As Lazy, But They're Mad At The Black People For Being So Lazy : 138240928	id take it serious when you learn how to spell the word.

10-20-2006, 04:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	What word was that? BTW, FUCK THE GRAMMAR POLICE! You cant tell me it was some of that hard to read "OMFGDORIDORIFTMFW!!!!!!!!!1111one11" bullshit you see in half the threads here.

10-20-2006, 11:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
box240mod tire eater Car: '97 Dodge Cummins, 1991 240sx SR My TRGarage Largo : 77058983	i am going to say it will be near to impossible to get that zoning along ulmerton. dont get me wrong i would LOVE it. I think you might aim for and area just outside of tampa where the undeveloped areas are. I understand you already have a property though. Look into the value of the original property and look at cost of property somewhere less congested. might be able to get something workable. goodluck

10-20-2006, 03:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	What actualy prevents someone from geting the right zoning for something like that, the noise? Or it is something else? Thanks again, Shane

10-22-2006, 01:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	Anybody?

10-22-2006, 01:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Shinmei2006 Guest Car: My TRGarage	call the city...find out the zoning rules...

10-22-2006, 10:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
RoadRacer Turn 7 at Sebring Car: 92 240 Coupe, 00 GLX My TRGarage 27°46′06″N 82°39′12″W : 430858735	Yea, call the city. Be prepared to spend a lot of money "convincing" the city council to change the zoning, if they even will. If there are houses close by, it will be close to impossible. Primus built a test track in off of 41 in Manatee county in the middle of an industrial area surrounded by Orange groves and people still complain about the noise. Good luck, let us know how is goes.

10-22-2006, 02:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Funk is on a bender Car: WTB moped My TRGarage south 727 : 244922743	noise ordinances and safety issues (dangerous activities capable of causing fire) you better get this shit done within the next 6 months if you really want, because people are already working on it.

10-23-2006, 04:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
CadetLD Registered User Car: 91 240sx Coupe My TRGarage Clearwater : 251210072	Okay, I have an idea about the noise issue and might help with safety too. If you have ever seen a house right on the courner of an intersection, sometimes people will make a mount of dirt thats angled in a way that it reflects the street noise away from the house and up into the air. If I did that on the side of the land but facing inward instead of outward mabey it would help keep the noise down? Plus it would act as a barier if a car went off course. Do you think that would be effective? Thanks again fellas, Shane