Why?

[Ronald Mcdonald]

Ok, i know this might start some drama, and eventually be locked. but i have a question for you guys. why are all you drifters so hateful towards new people? anytime anyone wants to try drifting, you all hate on them so much. the autocross guys dont do that shit, drag racers dont do that shit, so why you guys? just because you guys think this is a bandwagon thing or something, that may be true, but there is a reason you started it too.





let the flamefest/discussion begin...

[agentAndy]

It helps sort out the rif-raff

[_Charles_]

We don't hate....but until YOU get out there and actually TRY IT, you have no room to talk. Doing doughnuts in a parking lot IS NOT drifting. I don't hate....but I don't like comments that are negative when that person doesn't even get on the track. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. It's that simple.

Other than that....benchdrifters are fine in my book....

Charles

[Ronald Mcdonald]

well, with your comment ricerocket, i have drifted, i know how to drift. so im not one of those people that thinks they can, but have no idea how to even turn a car on. i do know how...

the sport is young

[For real?]

quick answer..

Because they dont want new people to learn and get beter and show them up at events

[Durdan]

Originally Posted by For real?

quick answer..

Because they dont want new people to learn and get beter and show them up at events

i have to be brutally honest. this is 100% true.

drifitng began locally on the steets and back lots about 5yrs ago or so. those of us that were out there since the beginning hold the sport near and dear to our hearts. its what we loved and we all felt like the cool kids. now with the huge influx of newbies, the spotlight can possibly be off us.

its the honest truth.

but at the same time.. we also dont want the sport tainted my ricers and ruined like what happened to street racing. yrs ago, street racing was fun and not as dangerous. you had folks that knew what they were doing, had actual cars, etc. now its just the 'cool' thing to do and EVERYBODY is out there. we dont want drfiting to have the same fate, though its heading that way.

[Ronald Mcdonald]

drifting, unlike drag racing, takes a serious amount of skill. those ricers drag race because, yes they think its cool, but also because its something almost anyone can do. drifting takes a serious amount of skill to actually do good. those ricers will probably try it once or twice, get frustrated and then head right back out to gandy to the easy shit.

[Matt Vassallo]

Take a look at the age bracket most interested in drifting and the level of maturity that is most accepted to be norm in that age bracket.

[Ronald Mcdonald]

Originally Posted by Ostrich

Take a look at the age bracket most interested in drifting and the level of maturity that is most accepted to be norm in that age bracket.

how does that differ from autocross and drag racing though? those people have no problems helping new people. with a few exceptions ( matt, taylor, basically all the bigger,well known people ) all the "drifters" are assholes towards anyone who wants to try it out....

[aphxero]

I'd have to agree with preludesi. The fact that it takes skill means that unless you're really into it you won't get far. Most of the "ricers" and whatever tend to sort themselves out.

And Taylor, it's true that it takes just one dumbass to ruin drifting's image to the public. I totally agree with trying to keep idiots seperate from us (drifters). But I think it's already legitimate as a sport as far as the general public is concerned. No one thinks drifting itself is bad.

If some idiot goes and kills someone or something drifting in a crowd or where he shouldn't then I can only hope people will know the difference.

I mean, people don't go bow hunting in downtown Tampa do they? No because there's a time and place for that.

Maybe we should all try to promote safe drifting instead of discouraging some of the newbs. Out of 20 ricer bandwagoneers there's probably a few that show talent and should be encouraged. I'll drift with anyone once. If they are doing stupid shit I try to set them straight.

My $ .02

[adrian_302]

all the drifters i know (except taylor honestly) are either really cocky, assholes, or whiney little punks. thats just my take on them

Honestly I think drifting will end up like the other forms of motorsports. There will be the "grassroots" events and the main events for the ppl that want to get aspire into it. Give the sport a few more years, and things willl go that way and become like every other motorsport as far as ppl act. They are still assholes in other forms of racing too. Sides you really cant be a big name driver and be an assholes it becomes bad PR.

[Clifford]

I have always liked it since i can remember, just never had the opputunity to actually do it till a couple years ago. I dont think age has as much to do with it, rather maturity. I know that's a bad statement coming from an 18 year old, but its true. I take driving seriously, and if i want something done, its going to get done right, even if it takes too much time and work. Others find it just like drag racing, they think anyone can do it, so what do they do....go off onto some random street with an opening swign the car round a blind turn, hit a car->drifting goes bad(bad reps for all others) There will always be those who think they can do anythign because they think that they are in fact invisible to all others. Thats what screws things up for us. People with actual common sense who know when to practice and where, get screwed over by people who dont know how to think for 5 minutes at a time.

Then again, if you think of it like this, as long as the ricers are going to events, HOPEFULLY they are keeping it off the street, its juts too bad there arent more events, more time to hold them, etc...This arguement could go either way, but all in all its maturity...IMO

[paul kersey]

Originally Posted by preludeSi

how does that differ from autocross and drag racing though? those people have no problems helping new people. with a few exceptions ( matt, taylor, basically all the bigger,well known people ) all the "drifters" are assholes towards anyone who wants to try it out....

if you've ever been to an autocross, youd know that 85% of the people there are usually older than 40. its not a "sport" that attracts young people.
most younger people only care about going fast in a straight line.
trust me, being 18-25, youre in the minority at just about any autocross.