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Old 05-10-2006, 01:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nissan S13 Model Specific Information

S13
The Silvia itself has been around for many years. However the information that you will find here is from the S13 onwards.

The information that I have gathered has come from many sources, these include magazines, videos, talking to mechanics and tuners, as well as 'word of mouth' from other Siliva Owners. If you spot any information that is incorrect, please send me an email and I'll fix it up.

Nissan Naming Conventions:
To ensure that you can understand how Nissan came up with the Engine names, I have attached a little example below.

SR20DET
SR = The engine model is specified by the first two characters ( SR, CA, RB, VG )
20 = The capacity of the engine ( 2.0 L )
D = Indicates Double Overhead Cams ( Twin Cam )
E = Electronic Fuel Injection
T = Indicates a Turbo Model

S13 Specifications:

The S13 range came out in two models. The first of which is commonly reffered to as an S13, and was built between 1988 and ended around the middle of 1990. The second model was built between 1990 and finished in 1993, this was reffered to as the PS13.

The 180SX is identical to the Silvia in every way, expect it was built as a fastback rather than a coupe. A common misconception is that the two cars are different, they are simply shaped differently. To be able to easily identify the 180SX from Silvia's it adopted a naming convention of RS13.

Information on BOTH S13 models ( Series 1, and 2 ) can be found below.


Series One S13 ( 1988 -> 1990 )

Models Available: J's ( Jack ) - Base Model.
Very basic interior, and is very rarely imported.

Q's ( Queen ) - Middle Range Model.
Full electric options, Non-Turbo only. With Optional LSD.

K's ( King ) - Top Spec Model.

Same features as a Q's, but only comes in Turbo. Most K's have LSD as standard also.

Club - Unknown model. Many people advertise a Silvia as a Club Spec, but no-one has really been able to cleary define the difference between a Club model and the above three ( J, Q, K ) models.

Fuel System: ECCS Electronic Fuel Injection ( EFI )
Fuel Tank Capacity: 55 L
Transmisison: Available in a 5 speed manual, or a 3 Speed Automatic ( with Overdrive ).

Automatic models are fitted with Power/Hold modes also.

Power Mode - Will allow the transmission to hold gears longer, and will down shift at much lower throttle positions.

Normal Mode - Is an automated sensing mode, if the car feels you are pushing the car, it will use Power mode.

Hold Mode - Will prevent you from pushing the car really hard, and will limit the revs to around 4,000 rpm. A very usefull mode when you desperatley need fuel Hold will also keep it in the selected gear unless you physically select a different gear.

Drive Train: Rear wheel drive, with Open or Viscous Coupling Limited Slip Differentials available.

Diff Ratios:
3.8:1
4.1:1
4.4:1

Suspension and Steering: Four wheel independant suspension is standard on all S13's.

Optional HICASII 4 Wheel Steering is available too.
Steering is power rack and pinion, with a turning circle of 9.6m
Weight Distribution: F/R 55/45% using an average driver weight of 60 Kg.

Weightings are as follows:
J's - 1090 Kg
Q's - 1090 Kg
K's - 1120 Kg

Size Dimensions: Length - Width - Height = 4540 x 1690 x 1290 mm
Optional Extras: Heads-Up Display ( HUD ):

Displays a digital speed reading onto the windscreen.
Coolbox:

Located in the glovebox it was designed to act as a mini fridge to keep drinks cold. Very rarely seen for fairly obvious reasons.

HICASII:
Four wheel steering.
Sunroof:
An electric slide back type was available, however proved to be terrible for taller people.
Velour / Leather Trim:

The majority of Silvia's came with a tweed trim, but some will be lucky enough to find a model with Velour, or a leather interior.

ABS:
Anti-Lock Braking System can be found on many Silvia's
Limited Slip Differential:
Check behind your rear left wheel, for an orange sticker if you are unsure as to if you have ABS or not.
Performance: CA18DE:
Power: ?
Torque: ?
Power / Weight: ?
Top Speed: 180 Km / Hr
Stock Boost: ?

CA18DET:
Power: ?
Torque: ?
Power / Weight:
Top Speed: 180 Km / Hr
Stock Boost: ?



Series Two S13 ( 1990 -> 1993 )
Engine: SR20DE, or SR20DET

Models Available: J's ( Jack ) - Base Model.
Very basic interior, and is very rarely imported.

Q's ( Queen ) - Middle Range Model.
Full electric options, Non-Turbo only. With Optional LSD.

K's ( King ) - Top Spec Model.
Same features as a Q's, but only comes in Turbo. Most K's have LSD as standard also.

Club - Unknown model. Many people advertise a Silvia as a Club Spec, but no-one has really been able to cleary define the difference between a Club model and the above three ( J, Q, K ) models.

Fuel System: ECCS Electronic Fuel Injection ( EFI )
Fuel Tank Capacity: 55 L
Transmisison: Available in a 5 speed manual, or a 3 Speed Automatic ( with Overdrive ).

Automatic models are fitted with Power/Hold modes also.

Power Mode - Will allow the transmission to hold gears longer, and will down shift at much lower throttle positions.

Normal Mode - Is an automated sensing mode, if the car feels you are pushing the car, it will use Power mode.

Hold Mode - Will prevent you from pushing the car really hard, and will limit the revs to around 4,000 rpm. A very usefull mode when you desperatley need fuel Hold will also keep it in the selected gear unless you physically select a different gear.

Drive Train: Rear wheel drive, with Open or Viscous Coupling Limited Slip Differentials available.

Diff Ratios:
3.8:1
4.1:1
4.4:1

Suspension and Steering: Four wheel independant suspension is standard on all S13's.

Optional SuperHICAS 4 Wheel Steering is available too.
Steering is power rack and pinion, with a turning circle of 9.6m

Weight Distribution: F/R 55/45% using an average driver weight of 60 Kg.

Weightings are as follows:
J's - 1110 Kg
Q's - 1110 Kg
K's - 1150 Kg

Size Dimensions: Length - Width - Height = 4540 x 1690 x 1290 mm

Optional Extras: Heads-Up Display ( HUD ):

Displays a digital speed reading onto the windscreen.
Coolbox:
Located in the glovebox it was designed to act as a mini fridge to keep drinks cold. Very rarely seen for fairly obvious reasons.

SuperHICAS:
Four wheel steering.
Digital Climate Control:
Same as analogue in operation, just controlled via a digital control ( like a stereo ).
Sunroof:
An electric slide back type was available, however proved to be terrible for taller people.
Velour / Leather Trim:
The majority of Silvia's came with a tweed trim, but some will be lucky enough to find a model with Velour, or a leather interior.

ABS:
Anti-Lock Braking System can be found on many Silvia's
Limited Slip Differential:
Check behind your rear left wheel, for an orange sticker if you are unsure as to if you have ABS or not.

Performance: SR20DE:
Power: 100Kw / 75 HP
Torque: ?
Power / Weight:
Top Speed: 180 Km / Hr
Stock Boost: ?

SR20DET:
Power: 135Kw / 101HP
Torque: 240
Power / Weight:
Top Speed: 180 Km / Hr
Stock Boost: ?


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Old 05-10-2006, 01:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Specifications
Model RPS13
Dimension (L-W-H) 4540x1690x1290mm
Curb Weight 1210kg
Seating Capacity 4 Persons
Engine Type CA18DET / SR20DET (Non turbo available, but rare)
Displacement 1801cc / 1998cc
Max Power (NET) 205PS/600rpm ( SR20DET )
Max Torque (NEW) 280kgm/4000rpm ( SR20DET )
Fuel System EGI (ECCS)
Fuel Economy 10 Mode Fuel Economy 10.0km/L, 60km/h Fuel Economy 18.3km/L ( SR20DET )
Fuel Tank Capacity 60? Unleaded Premium Gasoline
Transmission 4 Speed Auto / 5 Speed Manual
Manufacturer Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.


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Old 05-10-2006, 01:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sil-Eighty




- About the Sil-Eighty -

It's one of my favorite cars, if you're a Mako & Sayuki fan, it's probably one of yours as well. Nissan's Hybrid Wonder, the Sil-Eighty. Now this is where I get all car-techie, so if you don't want any of that, now's your chance to get out of it!


Nissan Sileighty
*manga based stat
Engine: SR20DET*
Displacement: 1998cc
Drivetrain: FR
Length: 4540mm
Height: 1290mm Horsepower @ rpm: 230 @ 6200*
Torque (km.ft. @ rpm): 33.6km @ 4000
Aspiration: Turbo
Width: 1690mm
Weight: 1150kg

You don't get many cars much better than this. Powered by an SR20DET (DOHC, Electronic Fuel Injection, TURBO) engine, the Sileighty was made to tackle mountain paths, chock-full of dangerous corners and hills. It's unique design and hybrid nature combines the best of two worlds, the Nissan Silvia, and the Nissan 180SX. As shown during the series, Mako has no problem dismantling competetors with the power of her car, her skill, and Sayuki's navigation.


Oooh, but this pretty picture of the Sil-Eighty (scanned from model kit box) is making you stay, right?





Now the Sileighty is an interesting car... it's origins started with car accidents, which turned into a trend, and then the manufacturers realizing that they could cash in on the trend. Complicated?

Before I start, let me clear one thing up. The Nissan Silvia is the same thing as the American released Nissan 240SX. The Nissan 180SX is the same thing as the American released Nissan... 240SX HATCHBACK version with retractable headlights. Marketing reasons is why Nissan of America decided to keep both cars as "240SX," as they technically were the same vehicle, just with a different body style.

There is a difference between the Japanese and American 240/Silvias: In Japan, Silvias have three levels of trim (K's, Q's, J's) K's being the 2.0 Turbo charged SR20 engines which could pump out well over 200bhp, Q's being the non-turbo 2.0 liter engines putting out just around 150-170bhp, and the J's, being the economy model. K's, Q's, and J's directly refer to "King, Queen, and Jack." The American Nissan 240SX, although not as strong as their Japanese counterparts, did have larger engines, at 2.4 liters, but still at stock, only produced about 155bhp.

Back when Nissan was making lots of sports cars, namely the Silvia and the 180SX, many young 180SX drivers were out in the mountain paths (YES, mountain racing is quite true) or wherever, trying to drift. Results were usually unsuccessful, and many drivers ended their nights with smashed and damaged front ends. So you've just went broke buying your 180SX, how can you afford to pay for repairs??

Simple. Since the front end parts of Silvias were less expensive than that of the 180SX, and just happens to simply bolt on without many complicated steps, many 180SX drivers found themselves fixing their cars, replacing damaged front ends with ones that of a Silvia.

And just like that, a trend was born. 180SX drivers who didn't have busted-up fronts were replacing their front ends with Silvias. I wouldn't be surprised if some people intentionally drifted horribly to dent their front ends, just so they could have an excuse to hop on the trend. Before you knew it heavily modified street racing 180SXs with Silvia front ends were cruising around the streets of Japan.

It wasn't too long before Nissan realized what was going on around them, and they realized that: they weren't making any money from all of this! So, plans began to move... it wouldn't be good for Nissan's reputation to have built a car which was inspired by illegal street racing, so they kept production of the Sileighty very low key. And if I'm not mistaken, anywhere from 400-4,000 manufactured Sileighties were every made.

What's the difference between a manufacturer made Sileighty and a homemade Sil-Eighty? Well, first and obviously, the badge on the rear, which normally says "180SX" on a 180SX reads "Sileighty" on the factory manufacturer's car. And in order to entice people to buy the Sileighty, Nissan beefed up the car slightly, to give people notice. Factory manufactured Sileighties have an estimated 24.2 MORE hp, and 3.6 kms of torque. Now you've got a car that's ready to hit the mountains right out of the factory, without any outside tuning or modifications.

Nissan no longer manufactures Sileighties anymore, obviously. An estimated 5,000 180SXs are still built every year. The original manufactured Sileighties, however are hot commodities at car auctions in Japan, for example, one white Sileighty, going for a whopping 2.4 million yen, roughly the same price as the R32 Nissan Skyline GT-R (a car that can kick any of our asses anyday) brand new! On a personal note, I would rather build my own Sil-Eighty out of a 180SX, and Silvia parts. Which I plan on doing before I die.

Here's a crude example that I compiled of what makes a homemade Sil-Eighty
(I will take ZERO responsibility if someone at home tries this and f's up their own car.)




Mako's Sil-eighty can actually be argued if it's a true Sil-eighty. Anyone who's paid close attention will notice that the back panel of her car reads "180sx." As opposed to the actual Nissan manufactured Sileighties, in which the back panel actually reads "Sileighty." The argument of copyright laws is usually the final defense in why Mako's car still reads a 180sx badge, so that the series doesn't infringe that much into Nissan's products.


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Old 05-10-2006, 04:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2006, 05:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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who come you dont know any of the stock specs of the ca18 or anything?


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Old 05-10-2006, 05:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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who come you dont know any of the stock specs of the ca18 or anything?
I have tons of information and I will try to keep adding them as soon as possible !!!


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Old 05-10-2006, 05:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
who wants a body massage?

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nissans are ghey. oh wait tats not positive enough, em how about nissans are metro sexual, is that better LMAO!!!!!!!


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Old 05-12-2006, 10:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ive never herd that queen king before? nice right up. CHUKI OWNS


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Old 06-06-2006, 10:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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that was a cool read, ive read most of it before but it was still cool to read again. what i dont understand, though, is why the silvia front end was cheaper... oh well.


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Old 07-03-2006, 04:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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nissan made about 500 sil80's
no they didnt. nissan never made sileighty, tuner company kids heart did.

unless you have actual manufacture claims from NISSAN itself not form some website you find on google.


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Old 07-03-2006, 06:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
AAAAAAaaaaYYYYYEEEEEEEE!!

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Old 07-03-2006, 11:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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so if i got a 91 240 le hatch. it has leather and velour than what is it classified as a J, Q, K? i would guess King due to it also has the stock lsd.


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hmm learned a few things... Nice write up i see im gonnahave to watch this thread for future info.
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