help!!

neondriver · 06-13-2006, 05:05 PM

started my car and went to work...almost to work (10 miles) my car was just below 1/4 tank of gas. i got in the turn lane and it stalled. i went to start it and all it did was turn over. i got it home and added new spark pluggs, iso-heat in the gas incase i went through a puddle, i put my coil from my other neon tyhat i know is good and still nothing. it is geting gas, not sure about spark yet...an possible ideas? it does turn over bt doesnt start, i had it backfire a cople times earler causing a small shot of flame out the throttle body, i also used quick start and still nothing....im out of ideas and could use any help...

thanks

neondriver · 06-13-2006, 05:20 PM

so i unplugged the injectors and turned it over...got a loud backfire....then turned over again for a while and nothing..plugged the injectors back in and still nothing WTF??

SlowAssNeon · 06-13-2006, 07:39 PM

check spark. im thinkin youve got none.

neondriver · 06-14-2006, 12:05 AM

spark is weak and spratic when it does happen...coil id good though..what else could cause no spark

BlackWind · 06-14-2006, 12:14 AM

bad grounds/wiring harness/pcm/anal demons.

**Dano Moparo** · 06-14-2006, 09:14 AM

pcm/crank sensor/cam sensor

neondriver · 06-14-2006, 01:25 PM

wouldnt the sensors throw a code? the only codes i got have really no major impact on the motor running wise.

neondriver · 06-14-2006, 01:43 PM

so today i got no spark...

**Dano Moparo** · 06-14-2006, 02:41 PM

what codes did you get?

neondriver · 06-14-2006, 05:57 PM

only code was battery dicsconnected within last 50 key on cycles

SlowAssNeon · 06-14-2006, 07:36 PM

the ecu *should* set a code for the crank position sensor if it doesnt see a signal from it during cranking... but unfortunately it doesnt always do so, and thus making it slightly more difficult to diagnose fast.
same goes for the cam sensor too unfortunately.

considering you went from having weak spark, to no spark.. i too am thinking you should be checking wiring - mainly grounds. it very well still could be a sensor, but id start with the wires.

neondriver · 06-14-2006, 07:51 PM

now that i tink of it on my way to work i heard a mild loud sound like i ran something over..but when i looked behind me there was nohing in the road..shortly after is when the car stalled and wouldnt start. so either sonething broke, or i did hit something which may of hit a wire or something...i really hope its something simple and stupid that is just a matter of finding. but for now im stuck driving my white neon aronnd :/

**Dano Moparo** · 06-14-2006, 10:57 PM

How olds the belt? Almost sounds like a broken belt.

Sometimes the water pumps in them take a shit and takes out the belt

neondriver · 06-15-2006, 03:24 PM

so i messed with it today. i unplugged the sensor on the valve cover (right side of the front most cam) with the sensor unplugged it started but sounded like crap. i put a sensor from my other neon and it still didnt start unless the sensor was unplugged. i drove it down my block(about 4 house's distance) with the sensor unplugged and it ran like absoult crap with no pick up like it should. i unplugged the sensor from my other neon and it stil ran like normal but hesitated to start. i took a vid of it at idle which should be up and working soon...

neondriver · 06-15-2006, 03:33 PM

2 short vids mostly showing how it sounds.....let me know if the video works because its my 1st time using photo bucket for movies

http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a54...enmotorwmv.flv
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a54...=brokenwmv.flv

06-13-2006, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	help!! started my car and went to work...almost to work (10 miles) my car was just below 1/4 tank of gas. i got in the turn lane and it stalled. i went to start it and all it did was turn over. i got it home and added new spark pluggs, iso-heat in the gas incase i went through a puddle, i put my coil from my other neon tyhat i know is good and still nothing. it is geting gas, not sure about spark yet...an possible ideas? it does turn over bt doesnt start, i had it backfire a cople times earler causing a small shot of flame out the throttle body, i also used quick start and still nothing....im out of ideas and could use any help... thanks

06-14-2006, 10:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dano Moparo Grandpa Car: 1970 Dodge Challenger RT 2005 Hemi Chrysler 300C 1999 GMC Sierra My TRGarage Pinellas Park : 10915645	How olds the belt? Almost sounds like a broken belt. Sometimes the water pumps in them take a shit and takes out the belt Last edited by Dano Moparo : 06-15-2006 at 11:43 AM.

06-15-2006, 03:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	2 short vids mostly showing how it sounds.....let me know if the video works because its my 1st time using photo bucket for movies http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a54...enmotorwmv.flv http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a54...=brokenwmv.flv Last edited by neondriver : 06-15-2006 at 03:36 PM.

06-13-2006, 05:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	so i unplugged the injectors and turned it over...got a loud backfire....then turned over again for a while and nothing..plugged the injectors back in and still nothing WTF??

06-13-2006, 07:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
SlowAssNeon Typical Peon Owner Car: '98 Dodge Neon R/T My TRGarage Clearwater : 71	check spark. im thinkin youve got none.

06-14-2006, 12:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	spark is weak and spratic when it does happen...coil id good though..what else could cause no spark

06-14-2006, 12:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
BlackWind U.S. Army Car: My TRGarage : 1459546950	bad grounds/wiring harness/pcm/anal demons.

06-14-2006, 09:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dano Moparo Grandpa Car: 1970 Dodge Challenger RT 2005 Hemi Chrysler 300C 1999 GMC Sierra My TRGarage Pinellas Park : 10915645	pcm/crank sensor/cam sensor

06-14-2006, 01:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	wouldnt the sensors throw a code? the only codes i got have really no major impact on the motor running wise.

06-14-2006, 01:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	so today i got no spark...

06-14-2006, 02:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dano Moparo Grandpa Car: 1970 Dodge Challenger RT 2005 Hemi Chrysler 300C 1999 GMC Sierra My TRGarage Pinellas Park : 10915645	what codes did you get?

06-14-2006, 05:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	only code was battery dicsconnected within last 50 key on cycles

06-14-2006, 07:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
SlowAssNeon Typical Peon Owner Car: '98 Dodge Neon R/T My TRGarage Clearwater : 71	the ecu should set a code for the crank position sensor if it doesnt see a signal from it during cranking... but unfortunately it doesnt always do so, and thus making it slightly more difficult to diagnose fast. same goes for the cam sensor too unfortunately. considering you went from having weak spark, to no spark.. i too am thinking you should be checking wiring - mainly grounds. it very well still could be a sensor, but id start with the wires.

06-14-2006, 07:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	now that i tink of it on my way to work i heard a mild loud sound like i ran something over..but when i looked behind me there was nohing in the road..shortly after is when the car stalled and wouldnt start. so either sonething broke, or i did hit something which may of hit a wire or something...i really hope its something simple and stupid that is just a matter of finding. but for now im stuck driving my white neon aronnd :/

06-15-2006, 03:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
neondriver Registered User Car: highline neon, acr neon, cbr 900rr, xr100r dirtbike, 04 altima 2.5S, 05 kawi 636 My TRGarage Holiday : 173969605	so i messed with it today. i unplugged the sensor on the valve cover (right side of the front most cam) with the sensor unplugged it started but sounded like crap. i put a sensor from my other neon and it still didnt start unless the sensor was unplugged. i drove it down my block(about 4 house's distance) with the sensor unplugged and it ran like absoult crap with no pick up like it should. i unplugged the sensor from my other neon and it stil ran like normal but hesitated to start. i took a vid of it at idle which should be up and working soon...