SAFC-II worth buying......

SLEEPIN_92SE-R · 05-24-2006, 06:17 PM

hey i got a question does a safc do any good in our cars or is it not worth buyin someone let me know..........i am bout to get a good deal on one so i wanna know just in case so i don't pass up the opportunity

HPNOTIQracing · 05-24-2006, 09:48 PM

take it an safc will make a bit of a difference on any car properly tuned. also the more supporting mods you have the more results

SLEEPIN_92SE-R · 05-25-2006, 06:29 PM

where can i get it tuned

HPNOTIQracing · 05-25-2006, 07:32 PM

any dyno place, or shop that deals with sport compact type of cars.
i bet 50 percent of tr knows atleast how to partially tune it and probly 25 percent can tune it damn near perfect. without a dyno its just guessing by setting it and driving, changing some settings and driving. its kinda like a cam gear.....without a dyno you will not get it set perfect but you still can get alot out of it.

mitsu420aT · 05-28-2006, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HPNOTIQracing

any dyno place, or shop that deals with sport compact type of cars.
i bet 50 percent of tr knows atleast how to partially tune it and probly 25 percent can tune it damn near perfect. without a dyno its just guessing by setting it and driving, changing some settings and driving. its kinda like a cam gear.....without a dyno you will not get it set perfect but you still can get alot out of it.

plus a million

SlowAssNeon · 05-28-2006, 02:35 AM

you dont *need* a dyno to tune the safc.. if you have a wideband o2 sensor you can use/borrow

course, it does help to know what a/f ratio to shoot for (13.1-13.5 for n/a)

**cali** · 05-28-2006, 07:32 AM

All depends on you goals. The end goal is what makes it worth it or not.

Dyno or WB tune would work.

HPNOTIQracing · 05-28-2006, 01:35 PM

s0orry i forgot about a wb. but stiill imo it will never be dead on without the dyno wb combo.

SLEEPIN_92SE-R · 05-31-2006, 06:00 PM

how much does a wideband cost

**Jap** · 05-31-2006, 07:01 PM

If you have a laptop Innovate LC-1 is 199

AEM Wideband is 269.99 on EBay + shipping

SLEEPIN_92SE-R · 06-02-2006, 06:57 PM

who can install my safc or is there somewhere i can get the directions so i can put it on well someone let me know how much and where

SlowAssNeon · 06-03-2006, 02:22 PM

heres a how-to for the safc1:
http://www.geocities.com/midwest_nrg/apex/

since you have the safc2, the only real difference in the wiring is that the safc2 has the wiring for the knock sensor.. which is pin 24 at the ecu (black wire with light green stripe - for 97-99 neons, im not sure about 95-96)

SLEEPIN_92SE-R · 06-03-2006, 06:59 PM

is it the same for the 03 srt4 the wire colors

SlowAssNeon · 06-04-2006, 04:51 AM

good question, and unfortunately i dont know due to the 03 having a different ecu setup than the 95-02s.

on the other hand, i always fear hearing about srt4 people tuning fuel by an safc, since the safc modifies map voltage based off rpm and not by how much boost. i dunno, it just never sounds like a good idea to me.

05-24-2006, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
SLEEPIN_92SE-R Registered User Car: 03 SRT-4,90 EF hatch(sold),05 GSXR600 (stolen 9-2-06) My TRGarage Tampa,Fl : 17783189	SAFC-II worth buying...... hey i got a question does a safc do any good in our cars or is it not worth buyin someone let me know..........i am bout to get a good deal on one so i wanna know just in case so i don't pass up the opportunity

05-24-2006, 09:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
HPNOTIQracing Registered User Car: My TRGarage clearwater : 7043755	take it an safc will make a bit of a difference on any car properly tuned. also the more supporting mods you have the more results

05-25-2006, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
SLEEPIN_92SE-R Registered User Car: 03 SRT-4,90 EF hatch(sold),05 GSXR600 (stolen 9-2-06) My TRGarage Tampa,Fl : 17783189	where can i get it tuned

05-25-2006, 07:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
HPNOTIQracing Registered User Car: My TRGarage clearwater : 7043755	any dyno place, or shop that deals with sport compact type of cars. i bet 50 percent of tr knows atleast how to partially tune it and probly 25 percent can tune it damn near perfect. without a dyno its just guessing by setting it and driving, changing some settings and driving. its kinda like a cam gear.....without a dyno you will not get it set perfect but you still can get alot out of it.

05-28-2006, 02:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
SlowAssNeon Typical Peon Owner Car: '98 Dodge Neon R/T My TRGarage Clearwater : 71	you dont need a dyno to tune the safc.. if you have a wideband o2 sensor you can use/borrow course, it does help to know what a/f ratio to shoot for (13.1-13.5 for n/a)

05-28-2006, 07:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
cali Skittle on crack! Car: My TRGarage Somewhere : 15280620	All depends on you goals. The end goal is what makes it worth it or not. Dyno or WB tune would work.

05-28-2006, 01:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
HPNOTIQracing Registered User Car: My TRGarage clearwater : 7043755	s0orry i forgot about a wb. but stiill imo it will never be dead on without the dyno wb combo.

05-31-2006, 06:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
SLEEPIN_92SE-R Registered User Car: 03 SRT-4,90 EF hatch(sold),05 GSXR600 (stolen 9-2-06) My TRGarage Tampa,Fl : 17783189	how much does a wideband cost

05-31-2006, 07:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jap The Racer Car: 91 Integra DB1 My TRGarage Tampa , Fl : 2147483647	If you have a laptop Innovate LC-1 is 199 AEM Wideband is 269.99 on EBay + shipping

06-02-2006, 06:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
SLEEPIN_92SE-R Registered User Car: 03 SRT-4,90 EF hatch(sold),05 GSXR600 (stolen 9-2-06) My TRGarage Tampa,Fl : 17783189	who can install my safc or is there somewhere i can get the directions so i can put it on well someone let me know how much and where

06-03-2006, 02:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
SlowAssNeon Typical Peon Owner Car: '98 Dodge Neon R/T My TRGarage Clearwater : 71	heres a how-to for the safc1: http://www.geocities.com/midwest_nrg/apex/ since you have the safc2, the only real difference in the wiring is that the safc2 has the wiring for the knock sensor.. which is pin 24 at the ecu (black wire with light green stripe - for 97-99 neons, im not sure about 95-96)

06-03-2006, 06:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
SLEEPIN_92SE-R Registered User Car: 03 SRT-4,90 EF hatch(sold),05 GSXR600 (stolen 9-2-06) My TRGarage Tampa,Fl : 17783189	is it the same for the 03 srt4 the wire colors

06-04-2006, 04:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
SlowAssNeon Typical Peon Owner Car: '98 Dodge Neon R/T My TRGarage Clearwater : 71	good question, and unfortunately i dont know due to the 03 having a different ecu setup than the 95-02s. on the other hand, i always fear hearing about srt4 people tuning fuel by an safc, since the safc modifies map voltage based off rpm and not by how much boost. i dunno, it just never sounds like a good idea to me.