Any opinions on the Hahn Racecraft 16G and 20G

CobraSpdRH · 12-12-2005, 06:41 PM

I haven't been on SRT forums in awhile and I see that Hahn is making a couple turbo kits, the 16G and 20G. Look pretty nice, ceramic coated and warranty for about $1700 and then you can either go 750's and SAFC or their port-fueler thing. Seems like a viable alternative, just looking for other opinions.

In a perfect world I could just buy Stage 3 and be done with it but thats not the case. Thanks.

Rob

Skittle · 12-12-2005, 06:50 PM

I was thinking about a custom 20g setup..I really like the concept of the port-fueler,but it uses "8" injectors or "6" right?..IT's a good deal in my opinion.

CobraSpdRH · 12-12-2005, 07:27 PM

As I understood it it is essentially 4 extra injectors that are used in WOT circumstances and otherwise they sit idle. They have some basic maps and the flow is tune-able. they also sell a map-clamp of sorts...but I think a 20g setup with 750's Walbro 255 and an SAFC would work well. I am stage 2 and I hear the 20g runs well with that (330ish)

ACR2NV · 12-12-2005, 07:38 PM

Stage 3R......and be done with it save for a new heavier duty clutch

CobraSpdRH · 12-12-2005, 08:14 PM

Well not everybody has the 3700 lying around for stage 3, I mean look at how many people are spraying their cars versus a big turbo to begin with...IMO this Hahn is a viable alternative and the portfueler reduces the amount of tuning necessary which is another plus.

**Jap** · 12-13-2005, 01:29 AM

Spray it or custom 50trim or similar ..

I'll be doinG GT3076R , Tial 44mm , CMS Manifold & DP , 780's , return line , AFC

3R is over rated

efficientkiller · 12-13-2005, 09:27 AM

definetly stage 3, it has alot of pontential....if getting that is an issue shoot for a 50trim setup....

CobraSpdRH · 12-13-2005, 12:35 PM

The efficiency of a 50 trim is only slightly better based on the maps and the 20g is over $500 less with ceramic coating and a full warranty (but you do have to buy an exhaust manifold gasket). I want to see what numbers people are putting down with them b/c I'm only looking to get around 400ish.

CobraSpdRH · 12-13-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostedSRT

Spray it or custom 50trim or similar ..

I'll be doinG GT3076R , Tial 44mm , CMS Manifold & DP , 780's , return line , AFC

3R is over rated

That will be a badass ride hopefully you have a clutch and some DSS axles

**Jap** · 12-13-2005, 05:19 PM

Why would I have DSS axles ... Warren broke them the first time he alunched with the DAB on 3 ...

I'll have stockers and i'll be slipping the clutch out of the hole not dumping it off a 2-step ...

I do have a CM Stage 4 though

CobraSpdRH · 12-13-2005, 05:42 PM

Damn thats about a grand down the hole, how do you like the stage 4...I heard on SRT forums a couple companies will be offering clutches for our car starting in Jan besides clutchmasters and centerforce

**Jap** · 12-13-2005, 06:10 PM

I got a light flywheel and the clutch for 700 ...

I've got a few hook-ups , drives nice though its somewhat harsh but its getting more liveable ...

Josiah · 12-15-2005, 08:15 PM

well, I for one have a Hahn 20g, I love it...there are actually three trims of 20g that hahn sells, even the smallest(the one I have) is good for 400WHP, mine has always fully spooled around 3500RPM....with multiple boost leak problems(which were my fault)...as far as fueling is concerned...the SAFC sucks, dont get it...ever for any reason...Portfueler is a neat Idea...but you have to add all kinds of hardware to use it(not to mention 4 more injectors) I myself use MegaSquirt...same cost as a SAFC and can do 10 times more than the portfueler...not any more difficult to install with fuel only control than a SAFC either(notice I say fuel only...to run spark as well from megasquirt(I let the stock computer control my spark for a long time before taking control of it too) you would have to convert to EDIS-4, unless the Megasquirt people have made SRT code yet...which they may have...but EDIS works fine for me)

CobraSpdRH · 12-16-2005, 02:35 AM

Well Josiah I think you know a shitload more about Neons than alot of other people on here myself included, Megasquirt is the shit if you know how to control it...So what are you're takes on the 20g's from Hahn versus the 50 trim from AGP???

ryman546 · 12-16-2005, 06:23 PM

boosted, selling drugs for parts is bad.

12-12-2005, 06:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
CobraSpdRH Senior Member Car: 1998 S10 soon to be LS1; 1998 GSX-R600 My TRGarage Tampa : 153	Any opinions on the Hahn Racecraft 16G and 20G I haven't been on SRT forums in awhile and I see that Hahn is making a couple turbo kits, the 16G and 20G. Look pretty nice, ceramic coated and warranty for about $1700 and then you can either go 750's and SAFC or their port-fueler thing. Seems like a viable alternative, just looking for other opinions. In a perfect world I could just buy Stage 3 and be done with it but thats not the case. Thanks. Rob

12-12-2005, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Skittle Got Toys? Car: 99 Yukon,92 KX 125,96' Banshee,240sx/ls1(one day it will be done).. My TRGarage Tampa : 2147483647	I was thinking about a custom 20g setup..I really like the concept of the port-fueler,but it uses "8" injectors or "6" right?..IT's a good deal in my opinion.

12-12-2005, 07:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
CobraSpdRH Senior Member Car: 1998 S10 soon to be LS1; 1998 GSX-R600 My TRGarage Tampa : 153	As I understood it it is essentially 4 extra injectors that are used in WOT circumstances and otherwise they sit idle. They have some basic maps and the flow is tune-able. they also sell a map-clamp of sorts...but I think a 20g setup with 750's Walbro 255 and an SAFC would work well. I am stage 2 and I hear the 20g runs well with that (330ish)

12-12-2005, 07:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
ACR2NV a.k.a. NeonDan Car: Neons.... My TRGarage CFL : 521	Stage 3R......and be done with it save for a new heavier duty clutch

12-12-2005, 08:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
CobraSpdRH Senior Member Car: 1998 S10 soon to be LS1; 1998 GSX-R600 My TRGarage Tampa : 153	Well not everybody has the 3700 lying around for stage 3, I mean look at how many people are spraying their cars versus a big turbo to begin with...IMO this Hahn is a viable alternative and the portfueler reduces the amount of tuning necessary which is another plus.

12-13-2005, 01:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jap The Racer Car: 91 Integra DB1 My TRGarage Tampa , Fl : 2147483647	Spray it or custom 50trim or similar .. I'll be doinG GT3076R , Tial 44mm , CMS Manifold & DP , 780's , return line , AFC 3R is over rated

12-13-2005, 09:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
efficientkiller Nurburgring Special Car: GTi VR6 My TRGarage International : 535	definetly stage 3, it has alot of pontential....if getting that is an issue shoot for a 50trim setup....

12-13-2005, 12:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
CobraSpdRH Senior Member Car: 1998 S10 soon to be LS1; 1998 GSX-R600 My TRGarage Tampa : 153	The efficiency of a 50 trim is only slightly better based on the maps and the 20g is over $500 less with ceramic coating and a full warranty (but you do have to buy an exhaust manifold gasket). I want to see what numbers people are putting down with them b/c I'm only looking to get around 400ish.

12-13-2005, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jap The Racer Car: 91 Integra DB1 My TRGarage Tampa , Fl : 2147483647	Why would I have DSS axles ... Warren broke them the first time he alunched with the DAB on 3 ... I'll have stockers and i'll be slipping the clutch out of the hole not dumping it off a 2-step ... I do have a CM Stage 4 though

12-13-2005, 05:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
CobraSpdRH Senior Member Car: 1998 S10 soon to be LS1; 1998 GSX-R600 My TRGarage Tampa : 153	Damn thats about a grand down the hole, how do you like the stage 4...I heard on SRT forums a couple companies will be offering clutches for our car starting in Jan besides clutchmasters and centerforce

12-13-2005, 06:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jap The Racer Car: 91 Integra DB1 My TRGarage Tampa , Fl : 2147483647	I got a light flywheel and the clutch for 700 ... I've got a few hook-ups , drives nice though its somewhat harsh but its getting more liveable ...

12-15-2005, 08:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Josiah Peon on steroids! Car: 97 Dodge neon coupe(built SRT engine when I have the time) '66 mustang coupe(restomod project) My TRGarage Franklin, TN : 100	well, I for one have a Hahn 20g, I love it...there are actually three trims of 20g that hahn sells, even the smallest(the one I have) is good for 400WHP, mine has always fully spooled around 3500RPM....with multiple boost leak problems(which were my fault)...as far as fueling is concerned...the SAFC sucks, dont get it...ever for any reason...Portfueler is a neat Idea...but you have to add all kinds of hardware to use it(not to mention 4 more injectors) I myself use MegaSquirt...same cost as a SAFC and can do 10 times more than the portfueler...not any more difficult to install with fuel only control than a SAFC either(notice I say fuel only...to run spark as well from megasquirt(I let the stock computer control my spark for a long time before taking control of it too) you would have to convert to EDIS-4, unless the Megasquirt people have made SRT code yet...which they may have...but EDIS works fine for me)

12-16-2005, 02:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
CobraSpdRH Senior Member Car: 1998 S10 soon to be LS1; 1998 GSX-R600 My TRGarage Tampa : 153	Well Josiah I think you know a shitload more about Neons than alot of other people on here myself included, Megasquirt is the shit if you know how to control it...So what are you're takes on the 20g's from Hahn versus the 50 trim from AGP???

12-16-2005, 06:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
ryman546 Registered User Car: Infiniti G35 My TRGarage Tampa : 464	boosted, selling drugs for parts is bad.