What Turbo is Better - Page 2

THE_ONE · 03-15-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

Why do you say that?

Sorry forgot to say a T4 35r on a stroker engine with a 120 shot will own on the street, expecially with the platform I'm using!

A 16g would be fun, but tractionless for me, and if I could get traction I would be limited. The 35r gives me that extra head room for higher numbers and faster times, without the lag.

**Tom N** · 03-15-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by THE_ONE

Sorry forgot to say a T4 35r on a stroker engine with a 120 shot will own on the street, expecially with the platform I'm using!

What do you base that on?
And what do you mean by own the street.
Do you mean the fastest?

THE_ONE · 03-15-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

1.What do you base that on?
2.And what do you mean by own the street.
3.Do you mean the fastest?

1.My last 2.4l on that set up
2.700whp 2500lb awd car that has full spool by 4500rpm... own the street
3.Never can be the fastest, but one of the fastest, and most cars running that kind of power would have to come out on slicks with VHT to run from a dig. So advantage < me

JR. · 03-15-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by THE_ONE

2.700whp 2500lb awd car that has full spool by 4500rpm... own the street

nope a crx will.

THE_ONE · 03-15-2007, 10:20 PM

^^ The crx will have a system in it just to help him get traction, I will out drive him for a long time, before he is able to get what he needs out that car to out run me...

Plus my car looks better

JR. · 03-15-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by THE_ONE

Plus my car looks better

yea it does, red interior ftw.

**Alpha** · 03-15-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

You can make 650+ hp on a GT35r.
There are more than a few that have done it.

If thats not enough go with a GT4094
I would stay away from the 67trim.

Tom. Are you talking about Miguel and his setup specifically? Because you should know better than I not every car/setup is going to make 650+whp or even 650whp for that matter with a GT35R. IMO there is nothing wrong with the 67mm compressor wheel. It adds a couple hundred RPM of lag typically but the power it produces is great. You're right as far as it being for certain cars and setups

**Tom N** · 03-15-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Tom. Are you talking about Miguel and his setup specifically? Because you should know better than I not every car/setup is going to make 650+whp or even 650whp for that matter with a GT35R. IMO there is nothing wrong with the 67mm compressor wheel. It adds a couple hundred RPM of lag typically but the power it produces is great. You're right as far as it being for certain cars and setups

Not talking about anyone in perticular.
I know every setup is different and all the ones I know of that have made 650+hp with a GT35r are 2.0lt cars not strokers.
IMO if I was looking for 600+hp no nitrous and 700 w/ nitrous I would get another GT35r. I would never try to make another street car with that kind of power again though. Its just pointless trying to have a street car with that kind of power. So I would end up getting a GT4094 with spray and put it in a track car. Which I will be doing in the future. Just not sure what I want to use for a shell yet. I can tell you it will be a aluminum rod 10.5:1 2.0ltr motor.

I know the T67 makes good peak power. It just is not a very durable turbo.

THE_ONE · 03-15-2007, 10:56 PM

^^ The 2.0 as a street car with that power was not good, and I believe thats why you switched it was no fun as we have always argued. My 2.4 similar set up was fast as hell on the street

I should have just left it alone but I have this problem with always wanting the best an newest shit out...getting over that phase soon hopefully

**Tom N** · 03-15-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by THE_ONE

^^ The 2.0 as a street car with that power was not good, and I believe thats why you switched it was no fun as we have always argued. My 2.4 similar set up was fast as hell on the street

I should have just left it alone but I have this problem with always wanting the best an newest shit out...getting over that phase soon hopefully

NO. I did it because it wasnt safe.
It was to much power for the street.
The power band was high and could have been fixed with nitrous but that would not fix the first and the most important problem I had with the setup.
To much power for a street car. That kind of power belongs on the track.
A 2.4 will never be the answer. 2.0ltrs will always be faster no matter what turbo you choose.

JR. · 03-15-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

NO. I did it because it wasnt safe.
.

beeing safe is the most important +1 tom

THE_ONE · 03-15-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

NO. I did it because it wasnt safe.
It was to much power for the street.
The power band was high and could have been fixed with nitrous but that would not fix the first and the most important problem I had with the setup.
To much power for a street car. That kind of power belongs on the track.
A 2.4 will never be the answer. 2.0ltrs will always be faster no matter what turbo you choose.

Okay Tom, I know the car was laggy ass hell, it doesn't matter how much power the car makes. It can always be turned down with the twist of a knob. Your power band was to high and no fun on the street leaving you to only enjoy it at high rpms...

Not something I even care to argue about, I will take you for a ride if I ever finish this one

**Tom N** · 03-15-2007, 11:20 PM

I have riden in Jerry`s car many times.
It fast and fun in its way. But I dont like the way strokers run out of gas so fast. Peaks quick and then the power just starts dropping. I dont like that.

Not downing the stroker. Its just not for me. I dont want to battle figuring out how to make a 100mm stroke breath. Because you cant.
Everyone had thier own sence of whats right for them when it comes to car building.

THE_ONE · 03-16-2007, 10:17 AM

Jerry's car is like that because he set it up like that. You need to go for a ride in my car. My car doesn't run out of gas it pulls harder and harder till shift point. I run bigger cams than Jerry, and a sheet metal intake manifold, not a cyclone. My set up flows very different from Jerry's

I know where your coming from but on the street the 2.4 is the way to go, eventually if I turn it into a track car I will go with a 2.0l and 42r with a set of Crane cams...

**Tom N** · 03-16-2007, 10:25 AM

I will gladly go for a ride when its done.
I am always up for seeing how different setups feel.
I just know its near impossible to battle a 100mm stroke when it comes to getting air in it in the upper rpms. Piston speed is just to fast.
Thats why people like Marco who swore by strokers no longer runs one.
I am sure it will be a fun car on the street with the stroker motor. Just wont be utilizing all that turbo has to offer.But you dont have to be the fastest to enjoy your car. It just has to be to your liking.

03-15-2007, 11:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
Tom N Regional Asshole Car: #1468 of 2000 My TRGarage North Port : 53301843	I have riden in Jerry`s car many times. It fast and fun in its way. But I dont like the way strokers run out of gas so fast. Peaks quick and then the power just starts dropping. I dont like that. Not downing the stroker. Its just not for me. I dont want to battle figuring out how to make a 100mm stroke breath. Because you cant. Everyone had thier own sence of whats right for them when it comes to car building. Last edited by Tom N : 03-15-2007 at 11:29 PM.

03-15-2007, 10:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
THE_ONE Highly underestimated Car: 99 EK My TRGarage Wesley Chapel : 428069576	^^ The crx will have a system in it just to help him get traction, I will out drive him for a long time, before he is able to get what he needs out that car to out run me... Plus my car looks better

03-15-2007, 10:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
THE_ONE Highly underestimated Car: 99 EK My TRGarage Wesley Chapel : 428069576	^^ The 2.0 as a street car with that power was not good, and I believe thats why you switched it was no fun as we have always argued. My 2.4 similar set up was fast as hell on the street I should have just left it alone but I have this problem with always wanting the best an newest shit out...getting over that phase soon hopefully

03-16-2007, 10:17 AM	#29 (permalink)
THE_ONE Highly underestimated Car: 99 EK My TRGarage Wesley Chapel : 428069576	Jerry's car is like that because he set it up like that. You need to go for a ride in my car. My car doesn't run out of gas it pulls harder and harder till shift point. I run bigger cams than Jerry, and a sheet metal intake manifold, not a cyclone. My set up flows very different from Jerry's I know where your coming from but on the street the 2.4 is the way to go, eventually if I turn it into a track car I will go with a 2.0l and 42r with a set of Crane cams...

03-16-2007, 10:25 AM	#30 (permalink)
Tom N Regional Asshole Car: #1468 of 2000 My TRGarage North Port : 53301843	I will gladly go for a ride when its done. I am always up for seeing how different setups feel. I just know its near impossible to battle a 100mm stroke when it comes to getting air in it in the upper rpms. Piston speed is just to fast. Thats why people like Marco who swore by strokers no longer runs one. I am sure it will be a fun car on the street with the stroker motor. Just wont be utilizing all that turbo has to offer.But you dont have to be the fastest to enjoy your car. It just has to be to your liking.