Tips on starting road racing

gsx97 · 03-10-2007, 01:30 AM

Anybody point out any tips on how to get started on a real road racing carrer and iam not talking about time trials i want to race other cars. I also heard shifter kart racing a also a way to get recognized. Any advice would be a greatly appreciated. Thanks

**Loren** · 03-10-2007, 08:59 AM

What experience do you have?

If you have NO experience, getting started in autocross is a great thing to do. You'll learn all the basic car control that you can't easily learn on the track. (the overdriving mistakes that you can freely make at an autocross can often be very expensive on the track) Drivers with an autocross background usually make very good road racers.

Once you've got car control down, do a couple track events with any one of the clubs that do track events. And if "you got it", getting a license to go racing with NASA or SCCA should not be difficult.

Chuck 98 RT/10 · 03-10-2007, 10:07 AM

Listen closely.

Sell everything you have. Buy a pickup truck and a shifter cart. Track every weekend and any other day you can. Give up partying and live, eat and breath racing. Good luck.

I wish somebody would have given me that advice 30 years ago.

**Jordan Y.** · 03-10-2007, 01:36 PM

That sounds pretty hardcore. My plan is to autocross for two years and at the end of the second year start with the occasional NASA HPDE event until I make it to HPDE3. But my goal isn't racing for a living, just having fun and becoming a better driver.

Native · 03-10-2007, 02:15 PM

Within the last year, either Car and Driver or Grassroots Motorsports did an article on "how to have a career in autoracing." IF there was any accuracy to what they wrote, I'd say it'd be easier to win the Lottery...

doing it for fun is another story - all you need is a car (or cart), time, and money

pullg · 03-10-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Native

Within the last year, either Car and Driver or Grassroots Motorsports did an article on "how to have a career in autoracing." IF there was any accuracy to what they wrote, I'd say it'd be easier to win the Lottery...

Only if you want to make money at it. If you're willing to take a vow of poverty, it's merely challenging.

**Jordan Y.** · 03-11-2007, 08:55 PM

From what I gather, you need to be blessed with world-class driving potential and wealthy parents who put you in your first kart at the age of 4 and pay your way through the ranks of racing from there until you reach the top 2-3 tiers of each type of racing (stock car, sports car, endurance, open wheel, etc) that actually pay you something. It also helps if your rich parents were famous racing drivers themselves.

djben · 03-16-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck 98 RT/10

Listen closely.

Sell everything you have. Buy a pickup truck and a shifter cart. Track every weekend and any other day you can. Give up partying and live, eat and breath racing. Good luck.

I wish somebody would have given me that advice 30 years ago.

That first step is gonna be the most significant

When it comes to top-tier competetive driving, the stuff you can make a career out of, just make sure to understand there are people BORN AND BRED to be race car drivers from all over the world. In no way do I think I could ever compete with these kinds of folks, and I'm thoroughly happy for anyone who has parents with enough money to give them that opportunity, I'm just going to try and have fun with club racing.

You can get into sports car racing at a young age (teens/20s) and get competetive and even win but even if you have the skill you still need the money to be able to do it all in the first place. I'm not any sort of veteran to any of this by any means, I just have been to the track a few times and know some people who have made a career out of racing and a guy who is trying to do it himself right now.

I will probably buy a spec Miata and trailer, borrow my brother's Ford Expedition on the weekends to go to the track and hand him over the keys to the M3 (I don't think he will turn it down). I would like to be able to get out on the track, get better and run 10/10ths, and then get wheel to wheel for a little competition which will make it more fun.

**tkrskyline** · 03-16-2007, 12:42 PM

If you are already quite talented and can come up with the several thousand dollar cost, going to a big time race school like panoz, barber, bondurant, etc can get you into racing and if you are really good, get you noticed.

I would say its not necessarily that hard to get into competitive road race, just hard to be good at it and make money or do it on a high level. There are many lower classes such as the various NASA spec classes like spec e30 or spec miata. Generally, you will spen much mroe than you could possibly make in those classes

The biggest questions would be what is your experience/talant level, do you have money, and how serious and to what level are you going for?

Rosko · 03-16-2007, 04:51 PM

It's never a bad idea to study those who did it before you.

Randy Pobst
RandyPobst.com

-Young guys are probably more relevant nowadays.

(Chip Herr)
ChipHerr.com | resume

(A.J. Allmendinger)
Champ Car > A.J. Allmendinger Bio

(Scott Speed)
Scott Speed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If anyone has more links to successful racecar driver bios, post 'em.

Hater · 03-19-2007, 06:04 AM

my buddys been doing shifter karts scince he was 8, 10 years later hes almost done building his car and hes going to move up to actual cars. He has a big sponser from suntrust and is on their team. Allthough he now had Scoliosious (SIC) from being in the seat for so long

**Jordan Y.** · 03-19-2007, 06:55 PM

What series is he going into? The only Suntrust car I know of is the Daytona Prototype car.

Hater · 03-20-2007, 03:04 AM

i know what your talking about
this is the only picture i could find

right? thats the one ive seen

last time i got into it with him he showed me all his ish on his team, i'll ask him nest time i see him.

**Jordan Y.** · 03-21-2007, 12:03 AM

Yeah, that's the one. According to my Handy AutoWeek racing fan guide that's the Suntrust Racing team owned by Wayne Taylor, with drivers Max Angelelli, Jan Magnussen, and Wayne Taylor. If he's moving into that team that's pretty cool- they've been running at the top for several years.

gsx97 · 03-23-2007, 07:49 PM

thanks for the advice guys. I am going start with the shifterkart and go from there.

03-10-2007, 01:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
gsx97 jdm evo specialist Car: 06 Ruck sack My TRGarage Bradenton : 2512	Tips on starting road racing Anybody point out any tips on how to get started on a real road racing carrer and iam not talking about time trials i want to race other cars. I also heard shifter kart racing a also a way to get recognized. Any advice would be a greatly appreciated. Thanks

03-16-2007, 12:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
tkrskyline TR Balla Donor Supreme Car: WRX Wagon My TRGarage tampa : 2800925	If you are already quite talented and can come up with the several thousand dollar cost, going to a big time race school like panoz, barber, bondurant, etc can get you into racing and if you are really good, get you noticed. I would say its not necessarily that hard to get into competitive road race, just hard to be good at it and make money or do it on a high level. There are many lower classes such as the various NASA spec classes like spec e30 or spec miata. Generally, you will spen much mroe than you could possibly make in those classes The biggest questions would be what is your experience/talant level, do you have money, and how serious and to what level are you going for? Last edited by tkrskyline : 03-16-2007 at 12:48 PM.

03-10-2007, 08:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Loren Moderator Car: 2007 Toyota Yaris LB . . . 1976 Triumph Spitfire My TRGarage Safety Harbor : 65156010	What experience do you have? If you have NO experience, getting started in autocross is a great thing to do. You'll learn all the basic car control that you can't easily learn on the track. (the overdriving mistakes that you can freely make at an autocross can often be very expensive on the track) Drivers with an autocross background usually make very good road racers. Once you've got car control down, do a couple track events with any one of the clubs that do track events. And if "you got it", getting a license to go racing with NASA or SCCA should not be difficult.

03-10-2007, 10:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chuck 98 RT/10 Sexist Car: Dodge Viper My TRGarage Tampa : 700358621	Listen closely. Sell everything you have. Buy a pickup truck and a shifter cart. Track every weekend and any other day you can. Give up partying and live, eat and breath racing. Good luck. I wish somebody would have given me that advice 30 years ago.

03-10-2007, 01:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jordan Y. 15 seconds EXHILARATION Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX Coupe My TRGarage Temple Terrace/USF : 301961453	That sounds pretty hardcore. My plan is to autocross for two years and at the end of the second year start with the occasional NASA HPDE event until I make it to HPDE3. But my goal isn't racing for a living, just having fun and becoming a better driver.

03-10-2007, 02:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Native The Innovator Car: '04 WRX, '94 Miata My TRGarage St. Petersburg : 466	Within the last year, either Car and Driver or Grassroots Motorsports did an article on "how to have a career in autoracing." IF there was any accuracy to what they wrote, I'd say it'd be easier to win the Lottery... doing it for fun is another story - all you need is a car (or cart), time, and money

03-11-2007, 08:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jordan Y. 15 seconds EXHILARATION Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX Coupe My TRGarage Temple Terrace/USF : 301961453	From what I gather, you need to be blessed with world-class driving potential and wealthy parents who put you in your first kart at the age of 4 and pay your way through the ranks of racing from there until you reach the top 2-3 tiers of each type of racing (stock car, sports car, endurance, open wheel, etc) that actually pay you something. It also helps if your rich parents were famous racing drivers themselves.

03-16-2007, 04:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rosko I Heart 2nd Gear Racing Car: Mazda RX8 My TRGarage Land O Lakes : 212	It's never a bad idea to study those who did it before you. Randy Pobst RandyPobst.com -Young guys are probably more relevant nowadays. (Chip Herr) ChipHerr.com \| resume (A.J. Allmendinger) Champ Car > A.J. Allmendinger Bio (Scott Speed) Scott Speed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia If anyone has more links to successful racecar driver bios, post 'em.

03-19-2007, 06:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hater White people. Car: 0 to 60 in <4 sec My TRGarage Boulder, CO : 2147483647	my buddys been doing shifter karts scince he was 8, 10 years later hes almost done building his car and hes going to move up to actual cars. He has a big sponser from suntrust and is on their team. Allthough he now had Scoliosious (SIC) from being in the seat for so long

03-19-2007, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jordan Y. 15 seconds EXHILARATION Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX Coupe My TRGarage Temple Terrace/USF : 301961453	What series is he going into? The only Suntrust car I know of is the Daytona Prototype car.

03-20-2007, 03:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hater White people. Car: 0 to 60 in <4 sec My TRGarage Boulder, CO : 2147483647	i know what your talking about this is the only picture i could find right? thats the one ive seen last time i got into it with him he showed me all his ish on his team, i'll ask him nest time i see him.

03-21-2007, 12:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jordan Y. 15 seconds EXHILARATION Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX Coupe My TRGarage Temple Terrace/USF : 301961453	Yeah, that's the one. According to my Handy AutoWeek racing fan guide that's the Suntrust Racing team owned by Wayne Taylor, with drivers Max Angelelli, Jan Magnussen, and Wayne Taylor. If he's moving into that team that's pretty cool- they've been running at the top for several years.

03-23-2007, 07:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
gsx97 jdm evo specialist Car: 06 Ruck sack My TRGarage Bradenton : 2512	thanks for the advice guys. I am going start with the shifterkart and go from there.