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View Poll Results: what tires should i buy?
falken azenis 205/50/15
11
64.71%
kumho ecsta MX's 205 50/15
3
17.65%
other
3
17.65%
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Old 05-18-2004, 04:27 PM
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well its that time again...time to buy new rubber for nessie....and for the first time ever i find myself at a point of indecision, falkens or kumho ecsta MX's

mind you that everything stated about the kumho is stuff i heard from other TRUSTWORTHY autox people.


FALKENS :

Pros: i have driven my way throug 4 sets already, and i am experienced on this tire, and i KNOW they are grippy as hell, and dont mind their low tread wear, and they are great cold weather tires. excellent stiff sidewall

Cons: Falkens get "greasy" when they get hot. autox points season is mostly during summer months, and greasy = not good. everyone is on these tires, so you have no advantage in rubber.


KUHMO ECSTA MX'S :

Pros: New tire, not everyone has it, IF it is stickier you have a rubber advantage. better water channeling than falkens, said to have an equally sticky compound in rubber. great when hot.

Cons: I have no experience on this tire. slightly softer sidewall. unproven tire...its kinda a ? if they are indeed as sticky. unknown tread duration. slightly worse in the cold


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For autocross...

Dry: toss-up between the two, but you better get shaved MXs if you need that last tenth.

Wet: Falkens are faster, it's proven.


The MX isn't untested. Last year at Nationals, there were cars running them...and going FAST on them. It comes down to driver.

Falkens get hot? cool them off. end of story.


Falkens are cheaper, and Id go that way if you're sticking with 15", which I would.
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falkens & buy a water sprayer for when they get hot!
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Ive had expericane with both, let me tell you the azenis are better, the MX"s just chunk if they get excessivly hot. Plus they get really hard near the end of the tread.
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Ask Muddy. He's running them on the Miata (post brown splash down).
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Originally posted by Chin180sx
Ive had expericane with both, let me tell you the azenis are better, the MX"s just chunk if they get excessivly hot. Plus they get really hard near the end of the tread.
you're just abusing the tires if you can get MX's to chunk. Azenis lose grip over 120 degrees.

MXs are still strong at over 150.
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
you're just abusing the tires if you can get MX's to chunk. Azenis lose grip over 120 degrees.

MXs are still strong at over 150.

Of course he abuses them... he's a driftor!!!!


I didn't have any issues with them losing grip/getting hard on the mustang....
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just FYI in that size falkens are 4 dollars cheaper per tire....that makes 16 dollars difference which would even out if i had to buy a water sprayer to keep them cooled off.
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The falkens have more grip, however if you are lazy like me, you will want the kumhos. You don't need to spray the kumhos between runs to keep them from overheating. I have made 7 runs in less than 10 minutes in the kumhos with no loss in grip. You can't do that with the falkens. I will probably buy another set when these run out, but I have no intentions of seriously racing the miata.
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'Sup Jesse! Tell me about this...
Wet: Falkens are faster, it's proven
Looking to get the MXs as my next set of street/rain tires. Not a good idea?
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