Newer NSX get's stomped!!!!

[DookieLuv!]

I was on Tampa RD. and a younger guy in a newer white NSX starts downshifting on me and looking over. He had a custom plate that was supposed to read "slipping bye", the only thing slipping was $1000 out of his wallet for his next car payment. Anyways I pull up next to him and rev it and let him get the move from a second gear roll, I hit it and began to pull instantly and let off without going into the next gear. So he gets beside me again from a 70mph roll, I guess he thinks his exotic is gonna pull me up top, nope. I let him go again and this time it was worse, I pulled him easily thru 1 gear and let off again. This race wasnt even close, total obliteration!!!! Is that the best that Japan will send over??? The styling is nice and I'm sure it handles and brakes nicely, but it just has no balls....

[Aharon]

It's nice seeing URFUCT hand out a good dose of reality.

[dsmturbo]

thats the shit, you shall race smoore now.. he busted my ass for some reason

[bitemark46]

Your car goes 70 mph in 1st gear? :o :? -Mark

[JuicedSS262]

Way to represent Mr U. R. Fuct. The nsx is a gorgeous car, but knowing you whooped that ass, makes me happy. Thankyou, and just where the hell were you Saturday night?
Come on over to the new and improved badrap Will--you will like it.

[herrcomestrouble]

i think he ment through (1) gear.. like from 3rd.. until 4th?...

[Modular Matt]

Good kill will.i wanna bust some nsx ass 1 day http://216.40.249.192/s/contrib/ruinkai/icon7xx.gif

[ComatoseSedan]

Honda's are'nt all that impressive from the factory.....

[U.S.M.F.C.]

Originally posted by URFUCT
Is that the best that Japan will send over??? The styling is nice and I'm sure it handles and brakes nicely, but it just has no balls....

damn good kill Will!!!!!!!!

i was thinking the same thing about the S2000 i worked saturday night!! :lol::lol: I mean the car looked gorgeous and the guy said it reved to like 9000 rpms but i never even seen the car next to me when we were racing???

:nworthy:TORQUE!

[DSG]

Good Kill. I'm just waiting for Smoore to chime in on this one.

[smoore]

Originally posted by Boytoy1977
Good Kill. I'm just waiting for Smoore to chime in on this one.

i'll bite:)

the 97' nsx that you are talking about was recently bought and is completely stock

trust me most everyone that owns an NSX knows they lack power for their class and price but when you read the magazines etc. most times the NSX doesn't do to well in the acceeration, 0-60 etc even though it's fair. But most of the magazine editor's say if they could leave with one of the cars they tested it would be the NSX.
The problem goes back to the Japanese "secret hand shake" never to have a horse power war, hense the reason you'll not see a Japanese car with over 300 horse (there may be 1 exception) and the way the Japanese meassure horsepower is slightly different than here. But with Ferrari,Viper, ZO6,Porsche,Lotus,Bmw etc.increaseing the horses honda and others are gonna soon have to change

anyway good kill on a stock NSX but price aside i'd like to see a NA V6 from america with those number of an NSX

[Chris]

Good Kill will, handed a red lowered one with OZ rims his ass a while ago on Bayshore - it was fun :)

Well at least the guy you ran into would run - unlike the
"BAK PAIN" loser I ran into a week ago Saturday....

[97blkz]

Good kill!

[DaTruth]

I wanted to see you stomp on that Z06... That guy is a trip.. He does not know what lie he is going to tell next...

[Modular Matt]

Doesn't the Trail Blazer make the same HP as an NSX? It's a v6

[corey r.]

Originally posted by Modular Matt
Doesn't the Trail Blazer make the same HP as an NSX? It's a v6

You may be correct.

[Gunslinger09]

Originally posted by Modular Matt
Doesn't the Trail Blazer make the same HP as an NSX? It's a v6

Nope its a strait 6. It is rated at 275hp

[corey r.]

I-6..... V6 same difference

[Gunslinger09]

Originally posted by corey r.
I-6..... V6 same difference


Corey,

Your Gimpatude saddens me. Didn't you just get your engineering degree from USF? If you did then you know how stupid that statment is. The only thinf the to motors have in common is the number of pistons and cylinders. Dang ole Gimp. :-P

[bitemark46]

Originally posted by Gunslinger09
Nope its a strait 6. It is rated at 275hp

My friend had a 92 blazer. It came with a 4.3L vortec(no to be confused w/ the blower company) and it was a v6. The only difference between that and the 350 was 2 pistons were cutoff. But I remember looking at the engine bay and it wasn't that long of a motor so it couldn't of been a inline 6. That thing had balls for a 6 cylinder. -Mark

[smoore]

Originally posted by Modular Matt
Doesn't the Trail Blazer make the same HP as an NSX? It's a v6

i think you guys are missing the point

even if it had 290 horses (what the NSX has) it's an suv used for pulling boats, trailers etc. so the trail blazer isn't even in the same class, even if it had 500 horse power it would still get owned by the NSX because of weight, gearing, engine management etc.
for the most part it seems like american sports cars have to add 2 pistons to get what the japan have with the NSX, of coarse Japan also put 12 years of engineering in the car before they realsed it:D it's kinda like the Japanese 4 cylinders out there most of them can easily beat V6 american cars (camero,mustang, firebird etc)

just hope that Honda doesn't come out with a V8 in production otherwise...........:lol:

[corey r.]

Originally posted by Gunslinger09
Corey,

Your Gimpatude saddens me. Didn't you just get your engineering degree from USF? If you did then you know how stupid that statment is. The only thinf the to motors have in common is the number of pistons and cylinders. Dang ole Gimp. :-P

I was refering to the fac t that they are both 6 bangers.

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore
i think you guys are missing the point

even if it had 290 horses (what the NSX has) it's an suv used for pulling boats, trailers etc. so the trail blazer isn't even in the same class, even if it had 500 horse power it would still get owned by the NSX because of weight, gearing, engine management etc.
for the most part it seems like american sports cars have to add 2 pistons to get what the japan have with the NSX, of coarse Japan also put 12 years of engineering in the car before they realsed it:D it's kinda like the Japanese 4 cylinders out there most of them can easily beat V6 american cars (camero,mustang, firebird etc)

just hope that Honda doesn't come out with a V8 in production otherwise...........:lol:

i really hate to start a import/ american war.(who started calling them domestics, anyway?)

1st off a v6 mustang or camaro is not a flagship model. they didnt design it to race or compete with anything else. its simply a base model car for people that cant afford a v8. if they put as much development into the v6 cars, they would be a whole heck of alot more money, DEFEATING the low cost option toa v8...

and the part about adding 2 cylinders.... dont even get me started on that. :nono:

[smoore]

Originally posted by corey r.
[and the part about adding 2 cylinders.... dont even get me started on that. :nono: [/B]

why not? i'm listening....

i'm not comparing flagship v's nonflagship

just stating that for speed:

an import4cylinder = a domestic 6 cylinder
an import 6 cylinder = a domestice 8cylinder
etc.

for the most part.

in other words i have yet to see america produce a 6 cylinder that can out perform a import 6 cylinder let alone an import v8....right?

but before people get backward i still love this country:D

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore


just stating that for speed:

an import4cylinder = a domestic 6 cylinder
an import 6 cylinder = a domestice 8cylinder
etc.



ok an nsx 6 cylinder can compare to a american v8...

but thats ONE motor compared to almost EVERY perfomance V8 there is!

thats like a one million to one ratio!

across the board, import motors are slower when compared to thier american bretheren.

[JuicedSS262]

Originally posted by smoore
why not? i'm listening....

i'm not comparing flagship v's nonflagship

just stating that for speed:

an import4cylinder = a domestic 6 cylinder
an import 6 cylinder = a domestice 8cylinder
etc.

for the most part.

in other words i have yet to see america produce a 6 cylinder that can out perform a import 6 cylinder let alone an import v8....right?

but before people get backward i still love this country:D

Digging here;

Buick Regal Grand National--whoop ass 6cyl. :o

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore
why not? i'm listening....

i'm not comparing flagship v's nonflagship



Sure you are!

a BASE camaro or Mustang is a v6. that means its the cheapest way into one of those kind of cars.

3.8 mustangs run mid-high 15's ( i saw one go 15.7 stock)

what 4 banger can do that? the flagship, most expensive ones!

EXAMPLE: GSR/SI

i KNOW the BASE honda will not run mid 15's.

It runs 18's, or 17's at best.

[smoore]

Originally posted by JuicedSS262
Digging here;

Buick Regal Grand National--whoop ass 6cyl. :o

yeah that's turbo i'm talk N/A for N/A :)

[smoore]

Originally posted by corey r.
Sure you are!

a BASE camaro or Mustang is a v6. that means its the cheapest way into one of those kind of cars.

3.8 mustangs run mid-high 15's ( i saw one go 15.7 stock)

what 4 banger can do that? the flagship, most expensive ones!

EXAMPLE: GSR/SI

i KNOW the BASE honda will not run mid 15's.

It runs 18's, or 17's at best.


o.k. the newer 6 cylinder mustangs are jump from the older one in terms of perfomance

but say 350z or maxima or ledgend etc.v's a newer 6 cylinder mustang or camero or firebird it no contest
same with a 4 cylinder interga or prelude v's an neon (non turbo) or cavalier or escort or Malibu anyway you get the point

and thats not even mentioning type R's or s-2000's or type "s" so it not like i'm using motherships
but granted recently motors like LS1 and the newer zo6 motors are getting alot of horsepower which is why i stated earlier that it's Honda/Acura turn to step up to the plate
:-)

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore
but say 350z or maxima or ledgend etc.v's a newer 6 cylinder mustang or camero or firebird it no contest
same with a 4 cylinder interga or prelude v's an neon (non turbo) or cavalier or escort or Malibu anyway you get the point



Dude, Bro, you are still comparing Flag ship cars to base cars.


im not positive, but i think you can get the maxima and legend with a smaller, base motor.

same for integras, the GSR is the top of the line, and the non turbo neon is supposed to be a turd, so people want to buy the turbo model.

[Joker]

p00p

[Sneakin Deacon]

Buick GN vs NSX stock for stock...GN wins
Camaro SS(ls1) vs TT Supra...SS wins
civic si vs. SVT Focus....Think the focus would win


if you take the fastest import and the fastest domestic, both being stock, i think the domestic would win. but im an import guy myself, i love my dsm, but i dunno if its import or domestic, and it doesnt matter...if ya got a fast car, it doesnt matter how you got there, it matters where you are right then.

[smoore]

Originally posted by CRX/NSXhybrid
Buick GN vs NSX stock for stock...GN wins
Camaro SS(ls1) vs TT Supra...SS wins
civic si vs. SVT Focus....Think the focus would win


if you take the fastest import and the fastest domestic, both being stock, i think the domestic would win. but im an import guy myself, i love my dsm, but i dunno if its import or domestic, and it doesnt matter...if ya got a fast car, it doesnt matter how you got there, it matters where you are right then.

stock for stock N/A

buick Gn is turbo which hasn't been made for what 7 yeras?

camero ss has 2 more cylinders and the supra has 2 turbos so how can you compare them 2?

svt focus is specialty so you may as well use a specialty import like the type r or RSX type s and you now what that out come would be.

i'm just simply stating that on only N/A motor not turbo or suprcharged etc.

[WRX GOD]

My base model Cavalier pulls on base model Civics even middle line Civics. I understand both sides of the situation, but really Japanese cars generally have more engineering involved in them than most Americans cars, but whoever wins is all that matters. So If it is an LS1 with a cheap ass interior and sub par handling and braking, but it stomps a $80,000 NSX the LS1 was the winner. Didn't really matter how many cylinders it has!!! I mean you can argue that an S2000 has 120hp/liter and a Z06 has 71hp/liter, but when the Z06 walks away like the ebrake was pulled, you ain't gonna say well my car has more hp/liter or my car has this or that. I am an import guy but still give respect for cool domestics and reality. It is just my opinion not the Bible. Take care -KEVIN-

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore
buick Gn is turbo which hasn't been made for what 7 yeras?



and umm when did they last make a NSX???

[corey r.]

i wouldnt really say the camaro has "sub par" braking and handling.

with dual piston calipers and 12 inch rotors, my camaro is very impressive with its braking abilities......

whats sub par about that?

[smoore]

Originally posted by corey r.
and umm when did they last make a NSX???

last time i checked there was an NSX number 0000-237 came out of Japan yesterday to America:lol: J/K

they still make the NSX's

When did they last make the Camero:D J/K

[corey r.]

they still make NSX's? oh, i thought they stopped making them a while ago.

[smoore]

Originally posted by corey r.
they still make NSX's? oh, i thought they stopped making them a while ago.


see, you learned something new:) :D

[corey r.]

I guess so!

[Strongest Man In The World]

i think that if honda ever designs a V8 to be produced in a american sold sports car, it will cost no less than 75-80k

what a bargain

[Road Rage]

number of cylinders doesnt matter, weight doesnt matter, engineering doesnt matter, N/A or forced inducted doesnt matter, all that matters is how fast it is and how it handles and brakes.

[smoore]

Originally posted by Road Rage
number of cylinders doesnt matter, weight doesnt matter, engineering doesnt matter, N/A or forced inducted doesnt matter, all that matters is how fast it is and how it handles and brakes.

couldn't disagree with you more!!!!!!!!!

weight and handeling go together you save on one you get better results on the other, N/A are usually more reliable.
the bigger the motor the heavier the car gets.
engineering shows quality and design which maybe why American cars are getting less horsepower per liter than Japanese cars and more smog than Japanese cars, not to mention Japanese cars to get better gas milage. but if you don't care about engineering and all that useless stuff then i'm sure you don't mind dipping into the pocket a few extra times to fill her up or change head gaskets or oil pumps.

everyones entitle to there opinion right? you guys have yours and i have mine:D

stuart

p.s. Donnie i agree if Honda did produce a V'8 it'll proberly be above $70k but ofcoarse you coulnt tell if it's a bargain until they showed you what it came with.

[BlackLT1]

Originally posted by Road Rage
number of cylinders doesnt matter, weight doesnt matter, engineering doesnt matter, N/A or forced inducted doesnt matter, all that matters is how fast it is and how it handles and brakes.

Right on.

[sloaccord]

another import/domestic argument, eh? sheesh.

the current hubbub on the next nsx is that it will easily pop the 100,000 dollar mark and begin to compete with ferrari. it will likely have a 400 hp v8, awd. . .etc etc etc

[Road Rage]

Originally posted by smoore
couldn't disagree with you more!!!!!!!!!

weight and handeling go together you save on one you get better results on the other, N/A are usually more reliable.
the bigger the motor the heavier the car gets.
engineering shows quality and design which maybe why American cars are getting less horsepower per liter than Japanese cars and more smog than Japanese cars, not to mention Japanese cars to get better gas milage. but if you don't care about engineering and all that useless stuff then i'm sure you don't mind dipping into the pocket a few extra times to fill her up or change head gaskets or oil pumps.

everyones entitle to there opinion right? you guys have yours and i have mine:D

stuart

p.s. Donnie i agree if Honda did produce a V'8 it'll proberly be above $70k but ofcoarse you coulnt tell if it's a bargain until they showed you what it came with.

yea i forgot too mention longevity matters, and how are NA more reliable? are you saying the 03 cobra and supra TT arent reliable? and also by engineering i meant technology, just wrote it wrong.:D

[Sneakin Deacon]

Originally posted by smoore

camero ss has 2 more cylinders and the supra has 2 turbos so how can you compare them 2?


you the one who said the 6cyl import compares to a V8 domestic

how bout bone stock camaro SS vs. bone stock NSX...ss would win...both N/A ..if ya wanna get technical and get same price range, how bout a Z06 vs a NSX

i dont see the point in arguing this honestly, every company makes a model with some feature another doesnt...its just how it is...run what ya brung.

[smoore]

Originally posted by Road Rage
yea i forgot too mention longevity matters, and how are NA more reliable? are you saying the 03 cobra and supra TT arent reliable? and also by engineering i meant technology, just wrote it wrong.:D

i am saying that a tt supra and the 03 cobra will have more problems than a N/A motor normally, because of 2 reason
1 the motor is usually under more stress with the extar horses made
2 it's more safisticated so theres more to go wrong (boost leak, fuel cut computer etc)

[smoore]

Originally posted by CRX/NSXhybrid
you the one who said the 6cyl import compares to a V8 domestic

how bout bone stock camaro SS vs. bone stock NSX...ss would win...both N/A ..if ya wanna get technical and get same price range, how bout a Z06 vs a NSX

i dont see the point in arguing this honestly, every company makes a model with some feature another doesnt...its just how it is...run what ya brung.

o.k. so stock for stock a ZO6 will beat the NSX but my point is that the U.S. have to make displacement bigger to make up for lack of technolgy
what i'm getting at is show me a N/A american built car that out performs and Import car not saying that a domestic v8 is slower than a import v6 or that a domestic v6 is sloer than a import 4 cylider what i'm getting at is a domestic N/A 4 Cylinder V's import N/A 4 cylinder the import is faster and same with the v6' and if honda had a v8 same there.

[Sneakin Deacon]

ok we are using displacement as lack of technology, the supra is using 2 turbos for lack of displacement... its a give and take situation...now when you combine technology and displacement...you arrive at something similar to the Lingenfelter Corvette...like i said before, run what ya brung. i know my 4 banger will keep up with quite a few V8's, nothing of LS1 standards..but quite a few others none the less. this whole import/domestic debate will probably be played out till the end of time. everyone uses the same technology, everyone tunes their cars, everyone tries to make them get as much fuel economy as possible.. just domestics give you a much better platform to start from...because of the displacement. give me 5000 dollars and i will give you a possible sub 10 second domestic car...you take that 5000 and try to get an import into the 10's without some helacious shot of nitrous

[Gunslinger09]

I just gotta ask where do you sportcompact\import guys get that Camaro z/28s, Mustang Gt/Cobras don't handle or brake well? Last time I checked they were running much faster times in all of the showroom stock roadracing categories and therefore were in a completely different class than the FWD sportcompacts. That whole point of view that many sportcompact guys have that because the V8 rear drive cars are marginally heavier means they don't handle or break well is comical to me.

Any way Mr Fuct you get a big WELL DONE for smacking the crap out of an over priced Honda exotic.

[flounder]

Always the same old people arguing the same old points. It's so predictable. Buy and drive whatever you like. Nobody cares! Good kill Will.

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore
couldn't disagree with you more!!!!!!!!!

American cars are getting less horsepower per liter than Japanese cars and more smog than Japanese cars, not to mention Japanese cars to get better gas milage.

what a COMPLETELY USELESS STATEMENT!

that has to be the most OVER USED statement that import drivers use.

a S2000 make 149 HP/ liter, (give or take, i dont know that car very well, nor do i care to)and a Z06 makes 71 HP /liter

You go ahead and get in your HIgh HP/liter car, and when the Z06 walks away like your E-brake is pulled, tell me again how great your car Statistics are........... PLEASE!


What does that statment have to do with being the faster guy, becuase ive only heard it being used after the import LOSES!

[flounder]

I don't think anyone who has half a brain will deny that a Z06 is a badass car Corey. Everyone knows that they are fast and handle great. 100 HP/Liter or whatever is impressive in any car IMHO, whether American or Japanese. But like you said it has nothing to do with being faster. That's more or less of a Power/Weight ratio thing not to mention traction and gearing.

Why argue about it? It's not like either side is going to stop and say, "you know that guy is right I'm selling my car and getting a ________ tomorrow". Three page arguments about Japanese vs. American cars are played out. It all comes down to preference.

[civicracer901]

good kill. I would like to take a shot at a NSX sometime. :)

[BlackLT1]

If the NSX is so great from the factory why did you mod it? :)

If you could put the motor from the NSX in the Z06 you would have a much slower car, just cause the motor makes more hp/liter doesnt mean its better in terms of performance numbers.

I am not hating on the NSX its a sweet car, but id love them more if for one they werent so damn expensive and second if they came stock with a turbos :)

And like many have said these arguments can go on till the end of time, im not pro domestic or pro import I just like whats a good car.

[ponchoV8]

You know smoore, I saw your car at the Makes & Models show this past weekend. Nice exterior, crappy interior IMO. Why is the steering wheel all chipped with chunks missing and the leather all cracked....so much for japanese quality; even the dash is all faded looking....unless you forgot to give it a good 'ole Armor All rubdown before showing it, but for $70+K I'd expect a car like that to hold up a little better. I got an old '85 Z-28 with over 200K of daily driven miles that has an interior in much better condition than yours. Also, if hp/L is so great in N/A imports, then why the big blue bottle in the back?

So you say that the U.S. makes up for less technology by using displacement, seems to me every year the Japanese and Europeans redesign an old model, they give it more displacement as well. The Altima only had a 4-banger prior to it's recent redesign where Nissan gave it a V6. The early Accords also only came with 4-cylinders, meanwhile every Taurus, Lumina, or Intrepid and most every mid-size and up domestic car has had an available V6. The Japanese know that to able to compete in the U.S market you have to have a decent sized motor, not some peaky, torqueless technological wonder that's wastes it's time revving and waiting for it's powerband to hit while you're trying to pass a semi-truck when oncoming traffic is approaching. Hell, the new NSX is supposedly gonna be equipped with V8.:lol: An S2000 with it's 240 hp only gets 25-26 mpg highway, maybe less if I recall, while the LS6 in the Z06 gets it's 405 horses while delivering 28 highway and is LEV rated. When GM implements it's displacement-on-demand technology, you will see mpg further increase with even less emissions and more power out of their "low-tech" engines. And Flounder, it's ignorant import (and domestic) guys like smoore are why arguments like these never end; they must be educated.

[smoore]

Originally posted by ponchoV8
You know smoore, I saw your car at the Makes & Models show this past weekend. Nice exterior, crappy interior IMO. Why is the steering wheel all chipped with chunks missing and the leather all cracked....so much for japanese quality; even the dash is all faded looking....unless you forgot to give it a good 'ole Armor All rubdown before showing it, but for $70+K I'd expect a car like that to hold up a little better. I got an old '85 Z-28 with over 200K of daily driven miles that has an interior in much better condition than yours. Also, if hp/L is so great in N/A imports, then why the big blue bottle in the back?

, it's ignorant import (and domestic) guys like smoore are why arguments like these never end; they must be educated.

guess i hit a nerve
yeah, thanks for reminding me about my steering wheel, dam cat got inside a decided to claw its way up the sterring wheel to lay on the dash:roll: now i got to get a spacro or something
no where did i say the my interior was clean that day all i had was Windex:-)
i din't say not to modify an import but just they are more engineered and i have the blue bottle to put me ahead of the odd viper or worked V8 etc i come across (for the most part)

i don't think ignorant at all

explain why a 1992 accord still pulls $3000- w/ 100k
and a 92' Taurus or 92' Cavalier or whtever w/ 100k could only pull $1000 on a good day?
because people know where the quality is
nuf said
granted U.S. cars have came along way but thats proberly because they've hired German engineers to show them the ropes

[corey r.]

Originally posted by smoore
guess i hit a nerve
yeah, thanks for reminding me about my steering wheel, dam cat got inside a decided to claw its way up the sterring wheel to lay on the dash:roll:

LOL thats gotta be a kick in the nuts!

[Billy]

Originally posted by smoore
i am saying that a tt supra and the 03 cobra will have more problems than a N/A motor normally, because of 2 reason
1 the motor is usually under more stress with the extar horses made
2 it's more safisticated so theres more to go wrong (boost leak, fuel cut computer etc)

Ok, lets look at point 1 first...the engines of both cars are designed to take the abuses that they are put through in stock trim. Hell, I've seen 850whp Supras running on the stock headgasket and 500+whp Cobras doing the same.

What about the ITR and other N/A cars that are running high compression ratios? They hold up fine as well from the the manufacturer, because the engine and car were designed to handle it.

Now, point 2......If that statement is true then doesn't that make all imports unreliable based on your past arguments? You have repeatedly stated that imports are more sophisticated and technilogically advanced then domestics.....must mean they break more too, right?

[smoore]

o.k.
like people have said this could go on for years,
apparently i'm the only one who feels this way
so i'll shut up:D

[corey r.]

no, please say something else. I want to shoot it down agian! :lol:

[WRX GOD]

Corey R., I have driven many LS1's and was never impressed with the handling or braking. The car felt very heavy and seemed like the car was just rocking side to side. You will never hear me argue about their acceleration, they are FAST. I have driven about every variation of an LS1 you can think of. Hell, I used to work at a GM dealership. Just what I saw come in and out left me with a bad feeling about them. Either way, I am with you on who cares about hp/liter in a race, whoever wins. And it is also true about imports using that excuse , but I have heard domestics say well you have AWD and Turbo and stuff like that. The import owners excuse is heard alot more though lol. Take care -KEVIN-

[corey r.]

Thats funny every test that ive seen in magizines says they are all pretty equal. :dunno: But everyone is intitled to their own opinion. :)

I really dont make excuses if i lose. I just say "good run"

I just like to shoot down the ones that do make excuses ;)

[Sneakin Deacon]

it takes everyone a bit of time to get to know their car...i know how mine handles on shitty springs and shocks and know its limits, if i walked into a LS1 right now, i dont think i would be able to handle it too well at first..

[???]

Originally posted by WRX GOD
Corey R., I have driven many LS1's and was never impressed with the handling or braking. The car felt very heavy and seemed like the car was just rocking side to side. You will never hear me argue about their acceleration, they are FAST. I have driven about every variation of an LS1 you can think of. Hell, I used to work at a GM dealership. Just what I saw come in and out left me with a bad feeling about them. Either way, I am with you on who cares about hp/liter in a race, whoever wins. And it is also true about imports using that excuse , but I have heard domestics say well you have AWD and Turbo and stuff like that. The import owners excuse is heard alot more though lol. Take care -KEVIN-


I can't believe I read the whole F***ing post

I want my 10 mins back


but on with why I replied to it in the first place


WRX god I'm guessing you have a wrx

because I had an 02 for a year and its the worst handling and worst braking so-called sports car I've ever driven

it pushed like a pig everywhere and has a posi in the front and not in the rear. so when the front washes out the back stay put and you have no steering WTF

sorry to bash your car but I hated that car so much everything sucked about it. ( I did like the steering wheel)

blew up 3 trannys and If you put and kind of an after market exhaust on it, it sounds like a VW bug motor.

if you think that car handles lets take a run down Patterson against the camaro I traded it in on. I'll leave the nittos on and you can pick what you like.


again I just needed to vent about that car.

[Bad92]

thats funny how everyone forgot about the v-6 buick grand national and t-type. no japanese 4 or 6cyl would fuck with that car.

[corey r.]

Tru dat. Someone else mentioned it a few posts up.

Buick did it in 1986!

BEAT THAT JAPAN! I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU!

[351coupe]

yeah,the car weighed twice as much as a import too
smoor?with all that hp/liter or whatever your talking about and the blue bottle,what happened when you ran me?

[Bad92]

how about the 6 cyl gmc typhoon pick up truck. remember gettin smoked by them?, oops my bad, only the japanese car owners would remember that. that yellow nsx with his 200 shot should be embarassed gettin smoked by a n/a v-8 with stock ass suspension. lol no offense to anyone.

[smoore]

Originally posted by 351coupe
yeah,the car weighed twice as much as a import too
smoor?with all that hp/liter or whatever your talking about and the blue bottle,what happened when you ran me?

first off i can't answer your question if i don't know who you are:roll:

[smoore]

Originally posted by Bad92
how about the 6 cyl gmc typhoon pick up truck. remember gettin smoked by them?, oops my bad, only the japanese car owners would remember that. that yellow nsx with his 200 shot should be embarassed gettin smoked by a n/a v-8 with stock ass suspension. lol no offense to anyone.

???????????? unreal:roll:
how many times did i have to say stock N/A
stock N/A stock N/A are you an idiot?
i can't belive people even get into this this late in the thread and don't even know what people we're talking about...

the only Mustang i raced recently that was a good race was the one that ran 10.70's or something and was red he got me the 1st time and i got him the second time but he didn't want to race from a stop because he needed better tires or something so we agreed it would be on next time we meet

why i waste my time, i don't know :mad:

p.s. it's a 70 shot not 200 shot:roll:

[DaTruth]

10.70's???? What mustang has run this time at the track? I have heard rumors that the previous owner of the mustang told the purchaser that the car has run 10's, but I have never heard anyone saying it ACTUALLY has done it..

[Strongest Man In The World]

with the previous suspension, tires and rear end the car went a 10.70 all motor

[DaTruth]

So what you are saying with its current setup it runs???????

[corey r.]

Smoore, your car runs that fast on a 70 shot?

[DaTruth]

What nitrous kit gives a 70 shot?

[Gunslinger09]

Originally posted by DaTruth
What nitrous kit gives a 70 shot?

I think ZEX does those small whiffs of laughing gas like that.

[ponchoV8]

He's got an NOS kit, well at least the solenoids and the bottle from what I could tell. Didn't look to see if it had a throttle body plate or a nozzle. 10's huh, doubt it, maybe from a roll.;)

[DookieLuv!]

Originally posted by ???
I can't believe I read the whole F***ing post

I want my 10 mins back


but on with why I replied to it in the first place


WRX god I'm guessing you have a wrx

because I had an 02 for a year and its the worst handling and worst braking so-called sports car I've ever driven

it pushed like a pig everywhere and has a posi in the front and not in the rear. so when the front washes out the back stay put and you have no steering WTF

sorry to bash your car but I hated that car so much everything sucked about it. ( I did like the steering wheel)

blew up 3 trannys and If you put and kind of an after market exhaust on it, it sounds like a VW bug motor.

if you think that car handles lets take a run down Patterson against the camaro I traded it in on. I'll leave the nittos on and you can pick what you like.


again I just needed to vent about that car. HOLY SHIT IT"S PHOMAS!!!! The last person I would ever expect to see here in my entire life!!!!!

[Bald Guy]

Yes, I'd like to know more about this 10.70 all motor Mustang. Fox body?? SN95??? Motor combo?? Tranny?? I am intrigued.

[Strongest Man In The World]

Im sure bryans car on some tires could cut a mid to low 11 with the current suspension and tune, but he would know more than I

[DookieLuv!]

Originally posted by slobra281
Yes, I'd like to know more about this 10.70 all motor Mustang. Fox body?? SN95??? Motor combo?? Tranny?? I am intrigued. It's the same Brian that had the Silver mod motor just like Tony's, he has a maroon coupe now with a carbed 351 and 3 speed auto, it's fast.....I would say deep 11's n/a on Nitterz and bolt-on suspension.

[Bald Guy]

Ahhh ok. So I take it its a Ramsey built car???

[DookieLuv!]

Originally posted by slobra281
Ahhh ok. So I take it its a Ramsey built car??? nope...guess again.

[351coupe]

thanks guys.the car I have now went 10.70s on slicks.its an N/a 351 maroon coupe.smoore,not starting shit but I remember 1 run from a second gear roll still litt it up and still WAXED YOUR ASS...NXS AINT SHIT FOR DRAG RACEING.you also told me it was 70 or 80 to the wheels,hum lets see,70 to the wheels =125 from the jets?i'll be out this sat. on some tires and will run from a stop and you better hope I dont have time to hook up this plate system!

[Bald Guy]

Sounds like a nice ride 351coupe. What you running as far as heads/cam/intake go?? Solid or hydraulic cam??

[351coupe]

whats up slobra281.for real,its ok,moves out pretty good but needs a tune real bad and its got stock a stock suspention.AFR 225'S a solid cam,victor jr.intake.and a holly HP830 carb.the car was built by a guy in kassimmie or somewhere,jodie from blue oval bought the car,and the next day I bought it from him.will talk later,got to go to work.

[???]

Originally posted by URFUCT
HOLY SHIT IT"S PHOMAS!!!! The last person I would ever expect to see here in my entire life!!!!!


ain't that some shit

this is such a dumbass post and i read the whole thing :roll:

then i see some shit about camaros not being as good as a import and the guy owns a WRX. WTF

i never post on shit like this but I had to

also will I hear we may be a good race if I get a move so we need to try it one night.

hey s moore did you brother get that crap fixed with the paper work.
we were in jail the same night, me him and anthoney.



"???????????? unreal
how many times did i have to say stock N/A
stock N/A stock N/A are you an idiot?"



yes these people are idiots

[smoore]

Originally posted by ???
ain't that some shit


hey s moore did you brother get that crap fixed with the paper work.
we were in jail the same night, me him and anthoney.



"???????????? unreal
how many times did i have to say stock N/A
stock N/A stock N/A are you an idiot?"



yes these people are idiots


yeah, i was up all night outside waiting to bail his ass out the jail. the jail system takes forever to release people, even when your waving cash infront of them.........

[smoore]

Originally posted by 351coupe
thanks guys.the car I have now went 10.70s on slicks.its an N/a 351 maroon coupe.smoore,not starting shit but I remember 1 run from a second gear roll still litt it up and still WAXED YOUR ASS...NXS AINT SHIT FOR DRAG RACEING.you also told me it was 70 or 80 to the wheels,hum lets see,70 to the wheels =125 from the jets?i'll be out this sat. on some tires and will run from a stop and you better hope I dont have time to hook up this plate system!


O.K. now i know how you are:D

all joking aside that car hauls ass, deffently the fastest Mustang i've ever raced:D
but it went down like this..
if i knew i was going to race you instead of getting set-up i'd told my passanger to kick the curb especially since you didn't have one which meant you missing one and me with one thats good for 400lbs
we hit it the first time from your desired roll and you pulled a car then i hit vtec and sprayed and i didn't catch but you stopped pulling then shifted into 3rd with little puilling on your end then the backend of you car got loose or something because it looked like you nearly bounced of the walls.
so we did it agian from first but you said you'd spin with those tires but we went at it anyway i got the hit and pulled 3-4 cars ahead while you span then i heard your car shifty to second and you we're still on it and you were not catching i then let off at like 120mph once we got to the top of the hump.
i asked to race from a stop which i prefer, but you said you'd spin even more than just in first.
i'd love to race you from a stop me with no passanger and you on drag radials and take it from there
but don't understand how someone could claim a ass whooping when indeed it was 1-1 and for the last time you turned a race down.

also my Kit is made by RM racing out od Arizona exclusively for the NSX, but they do use NOS stuff it states on the NSX Nitrous notes that it gives 70 hp gain at a bottle pressure of 1000psi
you figure a 12% loss from the wheel to the crank and at most it's an 85 shot
it states it usesjet #38
if anyone think i'm spraying more than that oh well if you want Call Doug at Z fever on Dale Mabry who helped with it (813-877-7600)

[DookieLuv!]

Originally posted by ???


also will I hear we may be a good race if I get a move so we need to try it one night.

We should meet up on Sat. I have your number, I know your stock so we should run and then switch mass air's and lids and run again and see how much you pick up or I lose, it would be pretty interesting. When me and Tony's brother Nick were at the track in his Ram Air he picked up 2 tenths and 3mph with just the mass air.

[Billy]

Originally posted by ???
I can't believe I read the whole F***ing post

I want my 10 mins back


but on with why I replied to it in the first place


WRX god I'm guessing you have a wrx

because I had an 02 for a year and its the worst handling and worst braking so-called sports car I've ever driven

it pushed like a pig everywhere and has a posi in the front and not in the rear. so when the front washes out the back stay put and you have no steering WTF

sorry to bash your car but I hated that car so much everything sucked about it. ( I did like the steering wheel)

blew up 3 trannys and If you put and kind of an after market exhaust on it, it sounds like a VW bug motor.

if you think that car handles lets take a run down Patterson against the camaro I traded it in on. I'll leave the nittos on and you can pick what you like.


again I just needed to vent about that car. To each their own, but I'm always up for a good spirited romp. Hell, maybe we can even hit it off in a straight line for a bit. Although, I wouldn't mind a non-grinding 4th gear synchro first, I'm still up to play :D

[???]

I think the race should be like this with the 351coupe and smoore.

if the NSX is on radials and the coupe is on drag radials the NSX gets a move if the coupe is on slicks you got to spot cars.

If the NSX is on drag radials then heads up.



i also think it should be one time for money and stop the shit talking. but thats just me.


and WRX guy be careful with that tranny i went throught 3 and they stoped fixing them under warranty anymore and they cost 5 grand. thats only one why i sold it that things a bitch to drive missing gears. no TQ

[???]

Originally posted by URFUCT
We should meet up on Sat. I have your number, I know your stock so we should run and then switch mass air's and lids and run again and see how much you pick up or I lose, it would be pretty interesting. When me and Tony's brother Nick were at the track in his Ram Air he picked up 2 tenths and 3mph with just the mass air.


yeah I'll drive it out this weekend 3mph sounds good to me if so i may buy one

[WRX GOD]

Well, I hope your WRX wasn't blue and you are a taller person. Did you take your WRX to Mastro to get the tranny fixed? I saw you at the track doing redline clutch drops and power shifting it like crazy. No shit it doesn't have any torque compared to an LS1. Straight line an LS1 is gonna win, if you thought you were gonna win against a stock LS1 in a stock WRX you bought the wrong car. I remember talking to John a mechanic at Mastro talking about you and your car. He said they fixed it under warranty and than you just kept abusing the tranny. Sorry you had bad luck with your WRX. It handles worlds better and drives better than a LS1, but hell that is just my opinion. If that isn't you, I am sorry and take care. -KEVIN-

[???]

yep that was mine and did they tell you i won the thing.

at the first test drive i shifted 2nd and the tranny smacked the floor i should of ask for a cashout but i thought it might be cool so i took it. bad idea on my part.

and if you talk to the guys at Mastro please tell i said they were a bunch of asses to me the whole time. They fixed it one time (took it to another dealed 2 more times)and told me i was racing it downtown someone saw me. witch was bull shit i never raced downtown I only had it to the track once just to see what it would do. i didn't race many people on the street because i always lost. I got beat by a caliver on a 50 shot on a roll a 96 mod motor the slow ones from a stop it was stock with nittos.

as you can tell this is a sore spot for me I could have took the money and got a used vette or a ls1 and had money left over. I feel like a dumb ass.

I'm still in shock that you've driver camaros and think they handle bad. you can put them in a corner right mat the gas and let it run nicely where my wrx wanted to drive off the road. maybe its cause i grew up driving RWD cars there just better on the road.


oh yea Mastro keep telling me I didn't know how to drive the car until I went to there little rally thing and smack there moded cars ass cause they couldn't drive. ASSHOLES (please tell them i said that) I came in 3rd overall with a stock car would have won it if the damn thing would turn on the gas. I had to e-brake it in ever turn.


but what ever yeah your cars the shit I'll leave you alone this will be my last post on here.

almost forgot i beat the shit out of my ls1 and never broke shit and i've had it longer.

[HybridSS]

John is quite the driver. Ive seen him ring some good times from alot of different cars.

I believe he ran a 13.0 at 110 or something like that in his bone stock Z28.

[DookieLuv!]

Originally posted by HybridSS
John is quite the driver. Ive seen him ring some good times from alot of different cars.

I believe he ran a 13.0 at 110 or something like that in his bone stock Z28. Yep, he even got very good times out of the WRX when he had it at the track, and he's taken a bone stock '98 Vette to a 12.8.:o :o

[HybridSS]

Lol..Tru Will.
He got that time after the owner could only manage like a 13.9:lol: