Yellow Skittle vs. The Dragstrip

[Scott]

I just had to post this in here to stir up all of you Skittle lovers. :D

This was a clean run (good launch, good shifts) for this SRT-4.

Now all of you people that are about to jump the import ship for a SRT4, well now you know what the really run. :dunno:

Sorry for the shitty picture quality but the camera does not like taking pictures at dusk.

[cali]

Nice, but mine wont be doing anythign remotely close to that anytime soon.:mad: :mad:

[corey r.]

You have to admit its not a shabby run. Its better than anything Japan has brought over.

Im just glad that it was a mopar at least

[flounder]

I don't think they are bad cars at all. They have potential. I am far from jumping the "import ship" though. LOL

[Scott]

From what I have read though they will be a bitch to modify since the turbo is installed strange ?

[flounder]

Originally posted by FordMan
From what I have read though they will be a bitch to modify since the turbo is installed strange ?

Yeah it looked to me like the turbo was in a difficult place to get to. Come to think of it, the whole engine bay looked cramped up. No room to do anything.

[cali]

Originally posted by flounder
Yeah it looked to me like the turbo was in a difficult place to get to. Come to think of it, the whole engine bay looked cramped up. No room to do anything.

what can i say, its a tight fit. I like it like that! :D

[ACR2NV]

the turbo is a TD04-16G-LR what makes it unique is that the exhaust scroll and exhaust manifold are cast as one piece. The engine bay is cramped because DCX designed it back in 99 to accomodate a 2.0L SOHC and 2.4L DOHC with a Turbo 2.4 option to be added later. As we all know the PT Cruiser is built on the New Neon chassis so in other words what fits in a PT will fit better in the Neon. The mounting systems and IC locations on both cars are identical with the PT holding a smaller IC up front than SRT due to space. The intake manifold (due to space) on the PT turbo is routed up and back over the cylinder head with TB resting over the coil pack. Both cars have equal length half shafts but the main differences occur in the tranny selections: PT Turbo gets Getrag 5 speed while SRT4 receives a New Gear Venture 5 speed. In the process of developing these two cars it was always clear that the SRT4 would hold up the extreme end serving the younger crowd while the PT Turbo would cater to the older crowd and families. Believe it or not the SRT engine bay is one of the most user friendly around as you can perform 90% of the tasks yourself as opposed to having the dealer do it. The run you see on the pic is not bad but they do trap higher (100-102mph) while running 14.0-14.1 . I know because even while being a passenger in a SRT running down BMP he still pulled a 14.3 at 99mph with a bad launch so again they do have potential....nice kill

[corey r.]

WTF did we tell your ass about run on sentences??

[DinoZ]

Originally posted by corey r.
WTF did we tell your ass about run on sentences?? :lol:


14.3@97... a good run for my stock GTP!! :D I thought I was going to be able to test it last night, against a Licorice Skittle, but the lady in front of me slammed on her brakes for the yellow light, and the skittle just kept going through. :mad:

[97blkz]

Not bad for that car at all!! Id run it with my slow ride!

[Raptor]

so who was the closest, i think i called a 14.2@99

[97blkz]

I said 14.32 lol!!

[Chris]

Originally posted by corey r.
WTF did we tell your ass about run on sentences??

LOL! I didn't see any run-ons, just a bunch of bench racing!

[Zate]

ACR2NV - 100-102 ?.. wtf ?.. i have seen 97-100.. bitch please.

[Scott]

I knew you guys would take this and run. :D

I do not see these cars getting into the 13's as everyone said they would without some signifigant mods. Last night the air was cool, humidity was low, and the barometer was ideal therefore any other day (especially hot) the car is going to give up 2-3 more tenths.

I guess the SRT4 is about what I expected, a mid 14 second import fighter.

[Scarecrow]

Way to be on the ball Corey but he used capital letters and periods. What you see there is what we call a p-a-r-a-g-r-a-p-h. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[CrazyMoparGirl]

Originally posted by FordMan
From what I have read though they will be a bitch to modify since the turbo is installed strange ?

The current exhaust amnifold is integrated with the Turbo, however there is a Header being produced with a T4 flange for this car already. Which means you can swap out the turbo set up, and it's already been done.

[Chris]

Originally posted by CrazyMoparGirl
The current exhaust amnifold is integrated with the Turbo, however there is a Header being produced with a T4 flange for this car already. Which means you can swap out the turbo set up, and it's already been done.

WooHoo, here we go, let's push the stock block to 300 RWHP and watch it crack in 1/2 :roll:

[rb70383]

Originally posted by CopMagnetLS1
WooHoo, here we go, let's push the stock block to 300 RWHP and watch it crack in 1/2 :roll:

I guess your shoe size is your IQ come back when you get a brain cell

[cali]

Originally posted by CopMagnetLS1
WooHoo, here we go, let's push the stock block to 300 RWHP and watch it crack in 1/2 :roll:

ignorance is bliss.....

I suggest you do some research:roll:

[cali]

Originally posted by FordMan
I knew you guys would take this and run. :D

I do not see these cars getting into the 13's as everyone said they would without some signifigant mods. Last night the air was cool, humidity was low, and the barometer was ideal therefore any other day (especially hot) the car is going to give up 2-3 more tenths.

I guess the SRT4 is about what I expected, a mid 14 second import fighter.

How many times do I have to show this?
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/blackcat/timeslips.htm

This car doesn't care about temperature.
It (ECU) varies boost according to conditions outside:roll:
So the car puts down a certain amount of power which does not change, if temps drop and air gets dense, boost is lower.
If its hot out, it goes up slightly higher.

I suggest if ya dont know, keep your fingers off the keyboard, and do some reading about the car and its electronics as well as stock engine internal capabilites.

Cali

[Zate]

HAHAHAHAHAHAA.. OMG !! so.. umm..if temp outside = higher.. boost goes up ?.. holy pinging engine batman thats just great !!

i can see what your saying.. but i think thats just plain dumb.. and dangerous.. in most cars.. lower temps = denser air = more boost = more power.. my WRX used to make 16.5 psi on a cold night.. and only 14 on a hot day.. but the 16.5 was ok as cooler intake temps were safer with less tendency to ping..

i think you need to go do some research son.

[Zate]

and cali..i'm seeing 14.3s to 14.00's.. didnt see any 13's there dude ;)

i can feel you SRT4 boys pain though.. you want to shut us up by saying what you think (know) the engine can do.. but no one has done it yet.. there is no proof).. i feel the same about the STi .. gonna be a low 13 second monster with HUGE potential.. time will tell :)

i am still waiting for the stock mach1 to race a stock SRT4 (DR's allowed) so I can post up the video on the SRT forums to shut some of those idiots up :)

[Scott]

Originally posted by cali
How many times do I have to show this?
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/blackcat/timeslips.htm

This car doesn't care about temperature.
It (ECU) varies boost according to conditions outside:roll:
So the car puts down a certain amount of power which does not change, if temps drop and air gets dense, boost is lower.
If its hot out, it goes up slightly higher.

I suggest if ya dont know, keep your fingers off the keyboard, and do some reading about the car and its electronics as well as stock engine internal capabilites.

Cali

Newsflash Jr. ! ECU's in most cars that run boost do what you explained to some extent. But weather and especially barometic pressure does play a factor regardless of what you have read in that rag Motor Trend, so please turn yourself upright and start talking out of the correct hole.

So if I go buy a SRT4 will I automatically be as smart as you ? :lol: :roll:

Damn kids these days. :nono:
:

[cali]

Originally posted by FordMan
Newsflash Jr. ! All ECU's in all cars do what you explained to some extent. But weather and especially barometic pressure does play a factor regardless of what you have read in that rag Motor Trend, so please turn yourself upright and start talking out of the correct hole.

So if I go buy a SRT4 will I automatically be as smart as you ? :lol: :roll:

Damn kids these days. :nono:
:

Do you own one? Have u driven in one on a cold day and a hot day?
I will be more than happy to edumacate you if you like. IF you wish to truly find out more.
go to srtforums.com and ask what the boost level is on
a: cold day
b: warm/hot day


Damned these old knuckle heads :roll:


EDIT:
OH BTW:
As URFUCT so eloquenty put it in another thread :

We are discussing modern cars here :o

Technology sure has changed :roll:

[Zate]

physics hasnt ;)

[cali]

Originally posted by Zate
physics hasnt ;)


So want to debate and get techincal now huh?
:? :?

Please explain your point behind that post, unless it was total bs:D

[99TL]

you aren't going to win this battle cali......there is no way that the car will run the same times and develop the same power @ all different temps. that is just not the way it works.

[Bald Guy]

Originally posted by cali
How many times do I have to show this?
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/blackcat/timeslips.htm

This car doesn't care about temperature.
It (ECU) varies boost according to conditions outside:roll:
So the car puts down a certain amount of power which does not change, if temps drop and air gets dense, boost is lower.
If its hot out, it goes up slightly higher.

I suggest if ya dont know, keep your fingers off the keyboard, and do some reading about the car and its electronics as well as stock engine internal capabilites.

Cali

The car doesn't care about temperature??? Are you kidding me??? So now the SRT-4 Neon is immune to the fuckin weather??? If anythng what you said would be opposite. With colder denser air it would make more boost and with hotter air it would lower to boost to prevent detonation. Saying the car doesn't care about weather temperature is plain ignorant. Every engine ever made is going to be effected by outside air temperatures and humidity. So basically you're saying that these magical electronics will make the car have the same power/torque levels in 50 degree, 0% humidity weather and 100 degree 100% humidity weather??? Hate to break this to you but I seriously doubt that Dodge has some super computer/engine that will out smart weather.

[Chris]

Originally posted by cali
ignorance is bliss.....

I suggest you do some research:roll:

Yes it is... so edumacate me then...are you telling me that with stock internals the factory block can handle substantially more boost / nitrous / power?

Hell I've seen what turbomax can do with an early 80's maxima junkyard motor, so anything is possible, but sorry I just don't see these being THAT strong...

[Chris]

Originally posted by Zate
ACR2NV - 100-102 ?.. wtf ?.. i have seen 97-100.. bitch please.

As supported by Cali's timeslips!

[Zate]

i think i see what your getting at thought cali.. your logic is alittle flawed.. your say.. hotter day.. the car turns up the boost alittle to make up for the lost power of it beinghot.. and on a cold day it turns the boost downa little to compensate for the cold air..

but that to me.. is dangerous.. i dont want the boost to go up when its warm..i dont want my engine to be MORE prone to pinging.. and when its cold.. dammit i want that more power !

but the fact remains.. the laws of physics still apply to your car.. if Dodge chooses to have the ECU 'tune' out the differences.. cool.. but they are fucking you over.. lol

[Zate]

lol. i only see 97-100 there.. lol

[97blkz]

Originally posted by slobra281
The car doesn't care about temperature??? Are you kidding me??? So now the SRT-4 Neon is immune to the fuckin weather??? If anythng what you said would be opposite. With colder denser air it would make more boost and with hotter air it would lower to boost to prevent detonation. Saying the car doesn't care about weather temperature is plain ignorant. Every engine ever made is going to be effected by outside air temperatures and humidity. So basically you're saying that these magical electronics will make the car have the same power/torque levels in 50 degree, 0% humidity weather and 100 degree 100% humidity weather??? Hate to break this to you but I seriously doubt that Dodge has some super computer/engine that will out smart weather.


Thank you!!! My bro is ASE certified and doing so since 1986 and he advised me of the same , but i guess he is a dill hole and is now a service writer and does drive-abilty test due to his lack of knowledge???

[Scott]

Originally posted by cali
Do you own one? Have u driven in one on a cold day and a hot day?
I will be more than happy to edumacate you if you like. IF you wish to truly find out more.
go to srtforums.com and ask what the boost level is on
a: cold day
b: warm/hot day


Damned these old knuckle heads :roll:


EDIT:
OH BTW:
As URFUCT so eloquenty put it in another thread :

We are discussing modern cars here :o

Technology sure has changed :roll:


Oh my god you are helpless. :nono:

Is the SRT forum moderated by Timmay ? You have no clue, little to no track experience, and no reasoning for anything.

Knuckledragger, that is great ! Never heard that before from some snot nozed four banger racer. I am willing to bet I have been racing at the track longer than you have been able to drive, so give it up on the education front.

Modern cars ? The principal of speed is quite the same but I am not going to bother explaining it to you because I am sure you already know. :roll:

My knowledge comes from many years of working on all types of motors even E.F.I. :eek: While I do not proclaim to know everything by any means my experiences come from hands on experience not Motor Trend or the almighty SRT forums. :nworthy:

Now do I own one ? Not if you gave it to me for free to mow my grass ! Wouldn't want the patented blue Mopar smoke killing my yard.

Driven one ? Why so I can experience the new found technology that regulates boost based on weather conditions ? :lol: No thanks, I have driven plenty of fast boosted cars and owned one back in the day.

Now run along and go get ed-u-ma-cated on how to race at the track so everyone can hand you your ass next week.

[cali]

Ford Man;

I dont care how many years you have been drag racing!

FACT REMAINS:

Car boosts higher during the day than @ NIGHT.
I dont care what u think or believe or have seen before.
And If anyone of you care to see this, let me know. I will be more than happy to take ya for a spin at day and at night.

Zate,
You are right about pinging and detonation. And you are right that the ECU has me by the balls. I knew this before and I know it now.

For the non-believers. Simple math equation that could be written into the code.

If tps =x, ait=y, map=z,
then
get rpm every 2 seconds,
if rate of rpm increase = a,
drop boost
else if rate of rpm increase =b,
increase boost.


Think your antique car could handle that code there Ford Man?:D

Also Ill say it again, MY CAR IS NOT A TRACK CAR, so get that thru your thick skull. If i want a track car, i'd go get a honda swap it, turbo it, and spank your ancient ford mobile all day long!


If I have load in the car the boost levels go up higher. Plain and simple. I didnt make the fucking car, but I sure as hell know what it does.

Once again , I'd be happy to show anyone this!

Cali

[Bald Guy]

Originally posted by cali
Ford Man;

I dont care how many years you have been drag racing!

FACT REMAINS:

Car boosts higher during the day than @ NIGHT.
I dont care what u think or believe or have seen before.
And If anyone of you care to see this, let me know. I will be more than happy to take ya for a spin at day and at night.

Zate,
You are right about pinging and detonation. And you are right that the ECU has me by the balls. I knew this before and I know it now.

For the non-believers. Simple math equation that could be written into the code.

If tps =x, ait=y, map=z,
then
get rpm every 2 seconds,
if rate of rpm increase = a,
drop boost
else if rate of rpm increase =b,
increase boost.


Think your antique car could handle that code there Ford Man?:D

Also Ill say it again, MY CAR IS NOT A TRACK CAR, so get that thru your thick skull. If i want a track car, i'd go get a honda swap it, turbo it, and spank your ancient ford mobile all day long!


If I have load in the car the boost levels go up higher. Plain and simple. I didnt make the fucking car, but I sure as hell know what it does.

Once again , I'd be happy to show anyone this!

Cali

Mopar has your car by the fuckin nuts with their ECU "compensation".

[cali]

Originally posted by slobra281
Mopar has your car by the fuckin nuts with their ECU "compensation".

Lifes a bitch and then u die.

Still havent lost to a ford yet ;)

[Bald Guy]

Originally posted by cali
Lifes a bitch and then u die.

Still havent lost to a ford yet ;)

Thats because you haven't ran me yet. ;)

[corey r.]

Cali if youre going to talk this kinda trash, i suggest you go to the track to meet "the boys" next week.

Oh wait! you already said you wont show! :lol:

[97blkz]

Dude you talk smack alottttttttt!! go to gandy Sat and look for all the slow f bodies , look for an old 93 cobra with old tech and ask him to run while you are at it lol!!!!!!!

[cali]

Originally posted by 97blkz
Dude you talk smack alottttttttt!! go to gandy Sat and look for all the slow f bodies , look for an old 93 cobra with old tech and ask him to run while you are at it lol!!!!!!!

And whats wrong with that?
Who did I claim I can beat that runs 12?

[97blkz]

You siad you never lost to a ford , cobra=ford

[97blkz]

Originally posted by cali
Do you own one? Have u driven in one on a cold day and a hot day?
I will be more than happy to edumacate you if you like. IF you wish to truly find out more.
go to srtforums.com and ask what the boost level is on
a: cold day
b: warm/hot day


Damned these old knuckle heads :roll:


EDIT:
OH BTW:
As URFUCT so eloquenty put it in another thread :

We are discussing modern cars here :o

Technology sure has changed :roll:

[Mr 2]

Is that really supposed to be an equation? :lol:


BTW I ran 12.3 @ 114mph with a less efficient version of the stock neon turbo(16g) in a heavier car.

[cali]

Originally posted by 97blkz
You siad you never lost to a ford , cobra=ford

So?
Aharon says he's never lost to a neon, neon = srt4.
So whats your point?

I havent raced an 03 cobra, nor is my car even remotely ready to race an 03 cobra:o

[DrDirt]

Say, don't Neon's float belly up if you forget to change their water? Or is that just guppies?

Heh, the great American Fish Cars: Stingray...Barracuda...................Neon

[flounder]

This thread is funny. LOL :lol:

[Scott]

Originally posted by flounder
This thread is funny. LOL :lol:

I told Jomar at the track last night this picture would get a Skittle out of the bag. :lol:


This is to easy.

[Billy]

Originally posted by flounder
This thread is funny. LOL :lol:

:lol: Greg, I read that and just pictured some retard saying it...."dis tread iz fuuny" :lol

[Aharon]

Originally posted by cali
So?
Aharon says he's never lost to a neon, neon = srt4.
So whats your point?

I havent raced an 03 cobra

Ya know, this can all be resolved.. And we can solve both our problems ;)

[chet]

cali, if your car isn't a track car what is it?

its too heavy to be a successful auto-x car...and i don't see it being competitive on a road course without considerable mods...and even then i'd question its success based on its suspension. ie macpherson struts...hahahahahahaahaha

so i'm guessing its designed to mainly be quick in a straight line...and for a 4 cylinder neon its pretty quick...and i'm sure we'll see them in the 12's with mods...and without rebuilt blocks..etc...

the reason i believe this...and maybe i'm wrong...is dodge, in creating a car that is mass produced and hoping its reliable designed a bottom end able to withstand 14lbs of boost for well over 100k miles. this means more boost and good tuning will probably allow a neon owner to push 20psi and still keep the motor intact.

next though, we'll see how durable that OPEN DIFFERENTIAL is, and when you get a quaiffe, we'll see how durable that transmission is, and so on...

and its a fucking NEON. i don't care if dodge renamed it, the car is based off of a neon chassis and has a turbo 4 cylinder. so basically its a neon turbo, end of story. the suspension setup is still the same and the dimensions are still the same, minus the 24mm front sway bar and 17mm rear sway bar...and from my experiences that will mean this car will push all over the place.

i hope you make it out to an auto-x...where we can see how well this car does.

[cali]

Its my daily driver with a bit of ballz.


, in creating a car that is mass produced and hoping its reliable designed a bottom end able to withstand 14lbs of boost for well over 100k miles. this means more boost and good tuning will probably allow a neon owner to push 20psi and still keep the motor intact.


very capable of 300HP on stock internals. Ny car is boosting 17PSI in stock form due to some issues I currently have, actually stock u can go to almost 24PSI, but will trigger CEL at 19PSI.
This car is not mass produced

Yes I will make some mods to my car, so I can crack 12's and thats all. It will remain a daily driver for me, which will see the 1/4 every so often for fun.


next though, we'll see how durable that OPEN DIFFERENTIAL is, and when you get a quaiffe, we'll see how durable that transmission is, and so on...


Open diff....yeah that remains to be answered. The tranny....I have lots of faith in it, unless there was some mass manufacturing defect.


and its a fucking NEON.

Call it whatever floats your boat. I prefer skittle, licorice flavored skittle to be exact or srt4.


the suspension setup is still the same and the dimensions are still the same
Me thinks u need to do some research on this one.


i hope you make it out to an auto-x...where we can see how well this car does

Never done it b4, maybe you will see others, and maybe some day it may interest me.


cali

[Joe99SS]

Originally posted by cali

This car is not mass produced

Huh??? :? So..... they are all hand-made right?? Last I checked they came off an assembly line, which equals mass production... Thanks to good old Henry Ford for that one. What was that about edumacation?

[cali]

Originally posted by Joe99SS
Huh??? :? So..... they are all hand-made right?? Last I checked they came off an assembly line, which equals mass production... Thanks to good old Henry Ford for that one. What was that about edumacation?

Mass produced in the context of chets post indicates enormous amounts ie 10,000

Correct me if I was wrong chet.

[DinoZ]

Originally posted by FordMan
so please turn yourself upright and start talking out of the correct hole.
:lol: I like that! Do you mind if I use it sometime? :lol:

[accord95]

Originally posted by cali
Call it whatever floats your boat. I prefer skittle, licorice flavored skittle to be exact or srt4.


cali, i work for progressive insurance. third largest insurance comapny in america. if i type the word "neon" in the model section on my computer it comes up with this:
neon ACR 122cu FI
neon ES 122cu FI
neon R/T 122cu FI
neon SRT 148cu FI

im just bored at work and wanted you to know that it is a neon!

[Scott]

Originally posted by DinoZ
:lol: I like that! Do you mind if I use it sometime? :lol:

Feel free too. :lol:

I don't know where that one came from but glad someone else enjoyed it. :D

[DinoZ]

Originally posted by accord95vtec
wanted you to know that it is a neon!
Well... DUHHHHH!!!!! :lol:

[accord95]

Originally posted by DinoZ
Well... DUHHHHH!!!!! :lol:

i know, i just wanted to rub in his face a little. since all the srt guys are so anti-neon. the way i figure, if we have it classified as a neon then so does the manufacturer. after all, we get all our rating information from the manufacturer.

the first 10 digits on your car: 1b3(a or e)s66x(check)3.

1st digit: country of origin..... 1=united states
2nd digit: manufacturer.........b=dodge
3rd digit: vehicle type
4th - 8th: engine size, cylinders, carburation, fuel type, wheel drive, tonnage.
9th digit: check digit
10th digit: model year

agian, im just bored and trying to prove its a neon.

[cali]

Originally posted by accord95vtec
i know, i just wanted to rub in his face a little. since all the srt guys are so anti-neon. the way i figure, if we have it classified as a neon then so does the manufacturer. after all, we get all our rating information from the manufacturer.

the first 10 digits on your car: 1b3(a or e)s66x(check)3.

1st digit: country of origin..... 1=united states
2nd digit: manufacturer.........b=dodge
3rd digit: vehicle type
4th - 8th: engine size, cylinders, carburation, fuel type, wheel drive, tonnage.
9th digit: check digit
10th digit: model year

agian, im just bored and trying to prove its a neon.

So what are the possible codes for vehicle type??????
Cuz, if its a neon, you can save me $2500, so hurry up and let me know!!

[Mr 2]

Originally posted by cali
So what are the possible codes for vehicle type??????
Cuz, if its a neon, you can save me $2500, so hurry up and let me know!!

Different model trims will change insurance rates.

Examples. V6 Firebird is cheaper that a TransAm, V6 Mustangs are cheaper than the GT or Cobra, RS Eclipses are cheaper than GS-Ts.

[cali]

Originally posted by Mr 2
Different model trims will change insurance rates.

Examples. V6 Firebird is cheaper that a TransAm, V6 Mustangs are cheaper than the GT or Cobra, RS Eclipses are cheaper than GS-Ts.


No if its a NEON as classified by VIN, dodge owes me 2500$, cuz the neons had a 2500 rebate when I bought the car, but DODGE was clear that its not a neon, and as said before, its not labelled as NEON anywhere, but insurace companies.

[Soluxx]

Originally posted by cali
No if its a NEON as classified by VIN, dodge owes me 2500$, cuz the neons had a 2500 rebate when I bought the car, but DODGE was clear that its not a neon, and as said before, its not labelled as NEON anywhere, but insurace companies.

Damn... Dodge shined that skittle up nice and purty, turned it sideways, and STUCK IT UP YOUR CANDYASS!!!

[Bald Guy]

Dodge may not call it a Neon, but none the less it is still a glorified Neon. The SRT-4 is based from the Neon platform, shares the same interior, body panels(save for the hood, front bumper and gay spoiler)....face it, its a Neon. But yet for some reason all of the NEON guys are going crazy over this car....but yet its not a Neon, so therefore it must be a totally different car than a standard Neon. Afterall they look nowhere alike. No matter what it is badged....the SRT-4 will ALWAYS be a Neon. :lol:

[accord95]

Originally posted by cali
So what are the possible codes for vehicle type??????


the third digit is the vehicle type and it is the same on all neons. it is a "3". go check your neon and the regular neon, same digit.

[accord95]

Originally posted by slobra281
the SRT-4 will ALWAYS be a Neon. :lol:

we are wasting our breath. this is something that is so obvious, yet something he will continuously deny.

[cali]

Originally posted by accord95vtec
we are wasting our breath. this is something that is so obvious, yet something he will continuously deny.

Who me? U must have got the wrong person.
Show me where i denied it. I said it aint labelled a NEON anywhere.

I want u to send me something that you have from dodge about the 3rd digit. not what your company has, and I am serious.

I want some designator that DODGE sends u guys, cuz I want my fucking rebate if thats the case!

[rkcivic19]

but take a look at my post, i never said that a neon is the only car with a "3" for the third digit. i just said that on all neons the third digit is "3". its a 3 on a dodge stratus too. i think the 3 is the code that stands for either car or if its 2 or 4 door.

i dont have any evedence that dodge has given progressive about what to call it. i know it says "neon srt" on my computer at work. and we get alot of our rating factors straight from the manufacturer. saying your car isnt a neon is like saying a cobra isnt a mustang.

[CrazyMoparGirl]

all chrysler vins use a digit to specify body type 2 door,4 door. sedan, coupe, truck etc etc.

[Bald Guy]

Originally posted by rkcivic19
saying your car isnt a neon is like saying a cobra isnt a mustang.

My Cobra isn't a Mustang.....don't you know that man. My Cobra has nothing in common with a regular Mustang, it's totally different. Just like an SRT-4 is not a Neon. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[rkcivic19]

Originally posted by CrazyMoparGirl
all chrysler vins use a digit to specify body type 2 door,4 door. sedan, coupe, truck etc etc.

shit, its not only chrysler, its all makes.

[rkcivic19]

sorry, this is accord95vtec, i'm at my brothers house.

[JuicedSS262]

Jomar you have a Mustang. Nya nya nya nyaaaa nyaaaaaaa. It just has a cool hood, and wheels and a neato 4cam motor, and some other stuff I can't remember at this time.
Me I have a Camaro, that is a little different than Z28 Camaro's. I get shitty SLP add on's and a nice price increase.
Can this be over with now?

[BlckSunshine]

LoL!! this thread is hilarious. the SRT is a neon and always will be a neon. Same engine base. A little built on the internals to handle some boost. Everybody is new to them even the ones who own them. I'm sure they get up and go pretty decently for a neon. Why do you think it doesn't say neon on it anywhere? I'm sure the company is embarrassed about their creation and needed to rebound themselves and used the fast and the furious era of racing (imports and 4 cylinders) to get a quick buck. Not judging you or calling you stupid or anything cali I don't know you at all. But I just pray that when you purchased this car, in your mind you knew it was a neon. And by the way I bet you if you crank that boost up to max and go for about 2,000-3,000 miles the tranny will be done. :D You do know they had a small budget to work with to make the SRT right? So those better internals, turbo, and suspension is cool and all. But you start fondling with it and those real "neon" parts or gonna go :::snap::::. And also the place you bought it from. I bet the all the salesman bought one and they are all thinking to themselves (while rocking back and forth like lunatics and clicking there heels 3 times) "it's not a neon" "it's not a neon". I'm not a hater or anything. I think if the car makes you happy that is all that matters. I have done some mild research about this car so everything I have said which isn't much is accurate except the tranny breaking after 2,000-3,000 miles, that is just my guess by looking how the tranny is built inside. There......I think that is everything.....My post should be flameproof. Or.....maybe not. :D

[cali]

Originally posted by BlckSunshine
LoL!! this thread is hilarious. the SRT is a neon and always will be a neon. Same engine base. A little built on the internals to handle some boost. Everybody is new to them even the ones who own them. I'm sure they get up and go pretty decently for a neon. Why do you think it doesn't say neon on it anywhere? I'm sure the company is embarrassed about their creation and needed to rebound themselves and used the fast and the furious era of racing (imports and 4 cylinders) to get a quick buck. Not judging you or calling you stupid or anything cali I don't know you at all. But I just pray that when you purchased this car, in your mind you knew it was a neon. And by the way I bet you if you crank that boost up to max and go for about 2,000-3,000 miles the tranny will be done. :D You do know they had a small budget to work with to make the SRT right? So those better internals, turbo, and suspension is cool and all. But you start fondling with it and those real "neon" parts or gonna go :::snap::::. And also the place you bought it from. I bet the all the salesman bought one and they are all thinking to themselves (while rocking back and forth like lunatics and clicking there heels 3 times) "it's not a neon" "it's not a neon". I'm not a hater or anything. I think if the car makes you happy that is all that matters. I have done some mild research about this car so everything I have said which isn't much is accurate except the tranny breaking after 2,000-3,000 miles, that is just my guess by looking how the tranny is built inside. There......I think that is everything.....My post should be flameproof. Or.....maybe not. :D

Show me a neon with a 2.4L :)

I hope you are around in a year or so , and I'll let u know how the tranny and those "NEON" parts hold up. ;)

"But I just pray that when you purchased this car, in your mind you knew it was a neon."

I knew exactly what is was since 4 years ago at conception :)

Accord guy:
Im still waiting on my info, cuz I want my friggin rebate!

[DinoZ]

Originally posted by cali
I knew exactly what is was since 4 years ago at conception :)

The Neon is that bad ass that you followed and waited for it, for 4 years?!?!? :o

[cali]

Originally posted by DinoZ
The Neon is that bad ass that you followed and waited for it, for 4 years?!?!? :o

No, a fucking DRUNK ass mullet almost killed me last month so I was forced to buy it sooner than I wanted to, but oh well:)

Just in case u missed it
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84133:mad:

[Raptor]

Im sorry to hear your car increases boost directly as tempatures increase. I would like to know how you plan on eliminating this from the ECU especially if you plan on modding and driving it this summer. Our what about knock retard, does the ecu increase boost then as well to make up for loss of power LOL.
Whats that sound? is someone making popcorn?

[Strongest Man In The World]

Originally posted by BlckSunshine
LoL!! this thread is hilarious. the SRT is a neon and always will be a neon. Same engine base. A little built on the internals to handle some boost. Everybody is new to them even the ones who own them. I'm sure they get up and go pretty decently for a neon. Why do you think it doesn't say neon on it anywhere? I'm sure the company is embarrassed about their creation and needed to rebound themselves and used the fast and the furious era of racing (imports and 4 cylinders) to get a quick buck. Not judging you or calling you stupid or anything cali I don't know you at all. But I just pray that when you purchased this car, in your mind you knew it was a neon. And by the way I bet you if you crank that boost up to max and go for about 2,000-3,000 miles the tranny will be done. :D You do know they had a small budget to work with to make the SRT right? So those better internals, turbo, and suspension is cool and all. But you start fondling with it and those real "neon" parts or gonna go :::snap::::. And also the place you bought it from. I bet the all the salesman bought one and they are all thinking to themselves (while rocking back and forth like lunatics and clicking there heels 3 times) "it's not a neon" "it's not a neon". I'm not a hater or anything. I think if the car makes you happy that is all that matters. I have done some mild research about this car so everything I have said which isn't much is accurate except the tranny breaking after 2,000-3,000 miles, that is just my guess by looking how the tranny is built inside. There......I think that is everything.....My post should be flameproof. Or.....maybe not. :D

Dont look now but im deffending a skittle

tyler, you havent done any research on shit

if you did, youd know that its a 2.4 when a normal neon comes with a 2.0. They arent WRX's. the tranny will last longer than 2-3 launches. It will beat your car in stock form, hell hed prolly give me a decent run (in the slow daily driver obviously). and the only the salespeople are doing is telling the new owners"yeah you can beat mustangs and camaros all day with this bad bot' they should be sued for false advertisment. and in conclusion, this is what i have to say.....

"Everyone in this room is now dumber for hearing that, zero points are awarded, and may god have mercy on your soul"

[Strongest Man In The World]

BTW i havent done a single second of research, just goin on what ive seen and heard

[Billy]

Originally posted by Exhaust Etc
Dont look now but im deffending a skittle

They arent WRX's. the tranny will last longer than 2-3 launches

Hey, I resemble that remark :lol: And the WRX trannys hold up just fine until you start to throw around 2xs the whp at them. It is just the dumbass drivers that think they can sidestep the clutch at 6,000rpm with no wheel spin and everything will be ok.

[Strongest Man In The World]

i was hoping you would respond, billy! :)

yeah i know, most have actually held up, but i gotta get my jabs in somewhere, god knows i get enough being a domestic owner :mullet:

[PoppaSmurf]

i've rode in one of them, im not claiming them to be killer fast...but nonetheless they are pretty damn quick for a stock car w/ a 4 cylinder, quicker than my dsm ever was on a stock turbo

[DinoZ]

Originally posted by Billy
dumbass drivers that think they can sidestep the clutch at 6,000rpm with no wheel spin and everything will be ok.
You mean that you can't do that?!?! :lol:

[Buzman23]

Originally posted by cali
No if its a NEON as classified by VIN, dodge owes me 2500$, cuz the neons had a 2500 rebate when I bought the car, but DODGE was clear that its not a neon, and as said before, its not labelled as NEON anywhere, but insurace companies.

Probably in the fine print...there's probably alot in the fine print that you may not have noticed, better check...

[Billy]

Originally posted by Exhaust Etc
i was hoping you would respond, billy! :)

yeah i know, most have actually held up, but i gotta get my jabs in somewhere, god knows i get enough being a domestic owner :mullet:

MULLET :mullet: ;) :lol: