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taka86fc
03-02-2003, 07:47 PM
I guess Sat is only for the miatas and the minis. my scca membership is expired. i need to go on Sun one. anyone going?
Jon with the camry
03-02-2003, 08:26 PM
I am definately going if i can. I'll have to check on the money status
Leonard
03-02-2003, 10:40 PM
I'll be at the Solo Trials in Gainesville !!!!!! NO CONES!!!!!!
i'll be there on Sunday in the mach1 .. i'll be racing if its dry :)
my SCCA licence has expired too Taka..
Loren
03-02-2003, 11:24 PM
Hmmm... I guess I'll be there. :cool:
FYI, I've seen the preliminary course design, and it's going to be a lot faster than the last few SunRiders courses. It still has some tight and twisty bits in it, but it's definitely got some deep 2nd gear meat to it.
Charles
03-02-2003, 11:35 PM
I'm planning on running on sunday too
Leonard
03-03-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Zate
i'll be there on Sunday in the mach1 .. i'll be racing if its dry :)
my SCCA licence has expired too Taka..
Yeah, um.... you didn't have a 'licence' there champ.... it was just a membership.....
PseudoRealityX
03-03-2003, 12:09 AM
everybody look at how cool Leonard is...
:P
yeah what ever leonard.. take your "licence" and "membership" and shove it..
Tits McGee
03-03-2003, 01:34 AM
Awwww, you tykes are so cute. Play nice and share the sandbox like good little boys.
Leonard
03-03-2003, 09:42 AM
Bullshit!! Imma do a burnout and spray all the sand in slow boy's face.....
Muahahahhahahaaaa
BodyRollin'
03-03-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by MinGreyCobra
Bullshit!! Imma do a burnout and spray all the sand in slow boy's face.....
Muahahahhahahaaaa dork LMAO
Leonard
03-03-2003, 12:15 PM
And then, imma bash him over the head with my tonka dump truck!!!!
Charles
03-04-2003, 05:10 PM
Looks like my new azenis for the p5 will see there first "course action" another day, this Sunday is SUV slalom time.
Hopefully I don't flip it :)
Tits McGee
03-04-2003, 05:11 PM
You know I want to take you up on your offer more than anything, Chuckie......but you also understand why I have to gracefully decline. :-(
Charles
03-04-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Leslie
You know I want to take you up on your offer more than anything, Chuckie......but you also understand why I have to gracefully decline. :-(
gotcha :-|
i'll be there...i can't justify the drive to gainesville when the sunriders course is literally 10 minutes up the road from where i stay.
Billy
03-04-2003, 10:16 PM
:lol: Zate, my "liscense" has expired as well, I guess I'll have to pay for a new one at the next event I am in towm for.
BIG_Truck_Driver
03-04-2003, 10:22 PM
Damn, My "liscense" has expired as well
Leonard
03-04-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by chet
i'll be there...i can't justify the drive to gainesville when the sunriders course is literally 10 minutes up the road from where i stay.
You do understand that solo trials= no cones and hot lapping, right?????
i know, i know...but i don't have hoosiers and i'll get killed...
i'd love to go, believe me...i just need to set my car up better...another few months...i'm working as we speak and all of my money goes towards my car.
Leonard
03-04-2003, 11:53 PM
I don't know that hoosier autox compound would do all that well at a trials... too much heat... I suspect the road race compound would be more appropriate.
PseudoRealityX
03-05-2003, 06:10 AM
the guys at the runoffs run the autocross compound;)
What is this crap about the car not being setup.... Thats such a dumb excuse. I drove to Kasas in a way underprepped STS car. frickin DRIVE. dont make excuses.
Leonard
03-05-2003, 08:19 AM
See Chet, Jesse has spoken.... you're a pansy.....
The Kyle
03-05-2003, 09:16 AM
where is this sunriders thing going down
Loren
03-05-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by madjetta
where is this sunriders thing going down
The usual SunRiders autocross site: St. Pete Junior College.
It's at 3200 34th Street South in St. Pete. To get there, you'll actually need to turn in on 32nd or 36th Avenue to get back to the entrance on 32nd Street. (this will make sense if you look at a map)
_Charles_
03-05-2003, 08:54 PM
Well, I guess I'll be there. Been along time since I've been to an Auto-X, but I'll give it another shot.
Thanks to SR20DET that voluntered his P5 with Azenis for me to use.... See ya'll sunday @ SPJC
despite the fact that leonard is correct, i will still be attending the local event. given my schedule at this point, i'm going to take the easy route and drive 10 minutes rather than 2 hours.
however, this summer i will DEFINITELY be attending almost every gainesville/ft myers event. mark my words leonard...and i'll have hoosiers soon...
Loren
03-05-2003, 11:04 PM
Here's a preview of the course. There will be a few more cones here and there and some minor tweaks, but this is the basic line we're looking to achieve.
Saturday (for the Minis/Miatas event) we'll be running this course starting on the East side. Sunday we'll run the same course in the opposite direction starting from the West side.
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/shad/MarchCourse41.gif
Leonard
03-05-2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by chet
despite the fact that leonard is correct, i will still be attending the local event. given my schedule at this point, i'm going to take the easy route and drive 10 minutes rather than 2 hours.
however, this summer i will DEFINITELY be attending almost every gainesville/ft myers event. mark my words leonard...and i'll have hoosiers soon...
1. This isn't a normal gainesville event.... it's solo trials... much more fun than solo 2. We only get one of these a year... :(
2. There will be no summer gainesville events. One in early may and one in november (i think... and i'm pretty sure that's all don't feel like getting out my tentative calendar...) . That's it. The point is... don't take it for granted that there is a gainesville event.... SunRiders runs EVERY month. It doesn't look like gainesville will be an event site nearly as frequently as it has been in the past. We're still hoping to do more there than sebring (1 event each year), but I wouldn't count on more than 4 weekends a year....
you have me thinking now...well between now and then i'll make a decision...
i hate the drive up to gainesville...it sucks!
ft myers by comparision...is so much nicer...
Originally posted by Loren
Here's a preview of the course. There will be a few more cones here and there and some minor tweaks, but this is the basic line we're looking to achieve.
Saturday (for the Minis/Miatas event) we'll be running this course starting on the East side. Sunday we'll run the same course in the opposite direction starting from the West side.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sunridersautocross/files/MarchCourse4.gif
so will we be driving around the little red 'X'? cause that's all I see.
Loren
03-06-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Card
so will we be driving around the little red 'X'? cause that's all I see.
Yes, we will be driving around a most excellent and creatively designed red X. :D
Note to self: Never post links to files that are located in a YahooGroups forum. Users can only see them if they are currently logged in to YahooGroups!
I just uploaded the map to the TampaRacing photo Gallery. Go get it!
Would put it on my personal web space and linked to it, but I'm at work and don't have my ftp login info with me.
b16aRacer
03-06-2003, 08:14 PM
course looks like it will be fun...
i have skipped the last few sunriders events due to the tight course layout and my cars piggish size....but i will be there on sunday.
is it $25 as usual?
here you go...
http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/images/s3e68023d80d74.jpg
and my reaction...i like the other course more...but this one should be fun as well.
PseudoRealityX
03-06-2003, 09:52 PM
Hmm, G-holding contest. You DO need to get in behind the "slalom" at the bottom of the course to get a good time. Other than that though, late apex stuff and hope your tires are stickier than the rest of the guys there.
Leonard
03-06-2003, 09:58 PM
I like this course better....
Loren
03-06-2003, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by b16aRacer
course looks like it will be fun...
i have skipped the last few sunriders events due to the tight course layout and my cars piggish size....but i will be there on sunday.
is it $25 as usual?
SunRiders autocrosses are now $30 for non-members, $25 for members. You can join the SunRiders Autocross Club for $20/year and get the member discount.
More details here: Announcing: Sunriders Autocross Club (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83173)
i'm really considering gainesville at this point...
ah, i hate the drive though...
Leonard
03-06-2003, 10:13 PM
Chet,
How is this even any sort of a dillema???? Two days of hotlaps!!! (3 laps at a time possibly more)... Potential for triple digit speeds.
OR, 3 runs around a parking lot?
Oh, and just to put it the rest of the way in perspective... I'm bringing spare rotors and pads and fluid just in case....
PseudoRealityX
03-07-2003, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by MinGreyCobra
Chet,
How is this even any sort of a dillema???? Two days of hotlaps!!! (3 laps at a time possibly more)... Potential for triple digit speeds.
OR, 3 runs around a parking lot?
Oh, and just to put it the rest of the way in perspective... I'm bringing spare rotors and pads and fluid just in case....
triple digit speeds? hahahha...no.
Leonard
03-07-2003, 09:32 AM
i hit 85 at the last solo 2 up there into the finish line... and half of that straight was slalom... i think i'll be close....
Loren
03-07-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by MinGreyCobra
i hit 85 at the last solo 2 up there into the finish line... and half of that straight was slalom... i think i'll be close....
I like to go fast as much as anyone else, but 85 mph in a stock car is not "Solo II". Somebody goofed.
BodyRollin'
03-07-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Loren
I like to go fast as much as anyone else, but 85 mph in a stock car is not "Solo II". Somebody goofed. bwahahahah that is what you think try 90 in the middle of a slaloam in a bone stock integra LS on falkens (not vtec and not on R compounds) then you have the sebring event last year lol and leonards stang isnt stock most of us were hittin about 65-70 in that section of g'ville. maybe a way to increase intrest in these autox's would be to adjust the classing, that is the only roblem i have with the miata autox's (all be it that i always attend them when i can) the classes are modified, miata, v8, and anything less than v8. that is really annoying knowing that when someone shows up in an S2000 or whatever, it is in the same exact class as someones stock civic or integra or whatever. just a thought
Leonard
03-07-2003, 10:10 AM
I just drive a car that has enough horsepower to get out of it's own way... :-D
Loren
03-07-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by BodyRollin'
bwahahahah that is what you think try 90 in the middle of a slaloam in a bone stock integra LS on falkens (not vtec and not on R compounds) then you have the sebring event last year lol and leonards stang isnt stock most of us were hittin about 65-70 in that section of g'ville.
Both cases are way faster than Solo II should be. Read the Solo II rule book. Speeds for "the fastest" Stock and Street Prepared cars should not normally exceed normal highway speeds. The fastest Stock and SP cars are blindingly fast cars and those speeds should only be achievable with the stickiest of autocross rubber.
But, hey, I wasn't there. If they can get away with that kind of speed for a short period on an isolated part of the course without creating a safety issue, more power to 'em.
maybe a way to increase intrest in these autox's would be to adjust the classing, that is the only roblem i have with the miata autox's (all be it that i always attend them when i can) the classes are modified, miata, v8, and anything less than v8. that is really annoying knowing that when someone shows up in an S2000 or whatever, it is in the same exact class as someones stock civic or integra or whatever. just a thought
Well, remember that SunRiders autocrosses are usually very small, it's hard to have proper classing with a group of only 30-40 drivers... you end up with two people in each class, and what's the point? Also remember that SunRiders autocrosses are more about fun than competition.
We have actually simplified our classing for this season. You'll probably like it even less, but I think it will work for our purposes.
Classes are:
Virgin (first timer)
Street Tire Novice
Street Tire Experienced
Race Tire Novice
Race Tire Experienced
These classes key on the two Most Important Things in autocrossing: Driver and Tires.
More often than not, at a casual autocross like ours, a good driver on good street tires can beat many "faster" cars with better tires. Remember, it's a driver's game!
PseudoRealityX
03-07-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Loren
I like to go fast as much as anyone else, but 85 mph in a stock car is not "Solo II". Somebody goofed.
He drives a Street Mod Mustang, and the course was deemed safe by at least 2 saftey stewards. You were going straight, nothing to hit, no reason to even come close to losing control.
FWIW, I was shifting to 4th right before the lights in my E-stock car.:) Thats about ~72 on the speedo.
Last year's SE Divisonal in Savannah saw 75mph through the lights of STS cars. The prepared and mod cars were going quite a bit faster im sure.
The First PRO event in Talladega had S2000s nudging the rev limiter in 3rd, thats ~90mph.
All of those events had ZERO accidents caused by the high speed. On the other hand, the Ft. Myers ProSolo this past weekend had 3 accidents, while top speed was limited to ~70mph by the SS cars.
When I ran with the Martin Sports Car Club up in G-Ville, car's were flying down that long backstraight. it was set up so the cars went all the way down the straight, then did a little rectangular loop on that box. my car got up into the 70's range on it.
but anyway, i really want to go to the sunriders event tommorrow. but i get off work at 7am in cocoa beach and it's like 3 hours to tampa. so something tells me i won't make it on time. plus i dont want to drive on unfamiliar terrain after working 11 hours straight and driving 3 hours to tampa. that's just asking for trouble.
oh well, maybe next time.
what time is this tomorrow ?
b16aRacer
03-08-2003, 12:00 PM
registration ends at 930, which means 10am
Loren
03-08-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Zate
what time is this tomorrow ?
Registration will be approximately 8:30-9:30am Sunday.
The course will be great! It was really good today, and the designer took a couple runs in the other direction (the way we'll be running Sunday) and said it was even better.
Loren
03-08-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by b16aRacer
registration ends at 930, which means 10am
Oh, please don't do that! And if you do, don't bitch when we tell you that registration is closed and turn you away.
I just spent 11 hours at an autocross. Most of that time was spent working the event. It's generally thankless work. I'm not complaining, but if you're not going to do anything else to help, PLEASE show up on time for registration.
(sorry for the rant, it's been a long hot day... another one tomorrow)
PseudoRealityX
03-09-2003, 12:11 AM
Jeez, it was COOL here in Gainesville. Id say 60's most of the day.
Loren
03-09-2003, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Jeez, it was COOL here in Gainesville. Id say 60's most of the day.
The morning was WONDERFUL Saturday, absolutely perfect. Good cloud cover, temp around 70ish, light breeze, no rain. But we didn't actually start the event until 1pm (the Mini crew didn't want to show up early, so we scheduled registration to be from 11am-12pm) The sun started peeking out around 2pm and it got hot REAL quick.
But that's why we live in Florida, right? I'll take hot over cold any day.
Durdan
03-09-2003, 12:13 PM
damnit. i tried to wake up for today, but couldnt manage it. been a while since ive autocrossed. i miss all the sunriders people!
PseudoRealityX
03-09-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Loren
But that's why we live in Florida, right? I'll take hot over cold any day.
Wait till July or Augst events;) This is only March weather.
BIG_Truck_Driver
03-09-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by VortecFL
damnit. i tried to wake up for today, but couldnt manage it. been a while since ive autocrossed. i miss all the sunriders people!
HAHA, I saw that coming from a mile away.
Next time go to bed earlier :D
you missed a fantastic day.... we got 7 runs in each.. the course was AWESOME.. and we finished at 2 pm.. plenty of times for fun run..
i didnt do fun runs as mine were all fun runs..hehe.. driftin the course in 2nd gear through the whole thing.. rar tires spinning all the time.. was SO much fun.. still managed a best of 45.31.. best time of day was in the 43's i think..
Loren
03-09-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Wait till July or Augst events;) This is only March weather.
Well, compared to the eternal damnation of living in Kansas for 15 years (I still don't know why I didn't leave sooner), it's still better here. In July and August in KS, it gets EVEN HOTTER than it does here. Ever tried autocrossing in 107 degree weather with a constant 35mph wind sand-blasting you and blowing over your cones?
Moving cones does add an interesting element to the sport, however. ;)
b16aRacer
03-09-2003, 03:31 PM
that course was badass i had alot of fun...alot faster and wider than the usual courses at sunriders. I managed a 44.9 which i thought was pretty good considering im still stock suspension and my tire pressure sucked.
good day overall though
Charles
03-09-2003, 04:59 PM
Yes, hot Florida weather is most excellent :D cold weather sucks :D
sy2173
03-09-2003, 08:22 PM
I had a lot of fun throwing my SUV around the course.
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