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Scott
09-05-2002, 11:20 PM
If you want to cut better 60ft. times and knock off a few tenths in the 1/4 or 1/8 here you go.

When you trip the first set of staging beams / bulbs creep very slowly or even bump the car until you just barely light up the second set of staging beams / bulbs.

This gives your car more time to accelerate through the 60ft. box as well as the entire track. Yes, it is only a foot or two that we ar talking about but it works, trust me. :D This is called shallow staging.

The opposite of this would be called deep staging and that is when you roll in so far that the top set of bulbs on the tree actually turn off. Doing this hurts your 60ft. times as well as your overall e.t.. But it helps you cut much better lights but that is another topic.

Hopefully this will help someone.

4.6Power
09-06-2002, 01:03 PM
Also, when bracket racing most go with a deep stage to cut the better reaction time as that is figured into the winner of the race.

DrDirt
09-06-2002, 01:47 PM
Reaction time ALWAYS figures into the outcome of the race. Makes no difference if you're bracket racing or running headsup. For instance, if I run John Force at noon and get a .523 R/T on the pro tree (sucky) and run an 11.52 et (sucky compared to John) but John waits untill the sun goes down to launch and runs a 4.xx, I still win. R/T is why the fastest ET does not always win.

Tony

afterburner
09-07-2002, 01:09 AM
:lol: :lol: GET AWD !!!

4.6Power
09-07-2002, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by "afterburner"

:lol: :lol: GET AWD !!!
how would that help? that tip would help you, but getting AWD would just help me 60ft better but yet I bet I pull better short times then most of you AWD guys.

0HP930
09-07-2002, 09:27 AM
Whats concidered a good average reaction time?

My first time at the track I was usually between 0.6 and 0.8 seconds.

DrDirt
09-07-2002, 09:58 AM
On the sportsman tree like we usually see, a perfect reaction time is .500. The closer you can get to .500 without going under, the better off you will be. Be very carevul though. The difference between a perfect light and an alomos guaranteed loss is .001. There isn't much else in life you can do in .001 sec except lose a race.

A lot of people I know like to try to get .50x. Personally, though those are really great reaction times, I like to get .52x to .53x times. Those are still very respectable times and gives a little bit of a cushion before you hit that deadly .499 redlight. If you can consistently cut .520's at the tree and your car runs consistently and your dial in is in accordance to that, you will be one hard SOB to beat in a bracket race no matter what your car runs.

Your times are not bad for the first time out. however if you look at it closely you will see that if your opponent happened to cut a perfect light in those two races, he would be ahead of you by .1 and .3 seconds before you have even moved. This in a game where youu can lose by thousandths of a sec. You can see the importance of a good R/T when you look at it that way.

Tony

0HP930
09-07-2002, 10:27 AM
Thanks for the info Tony.

On my timeslips from my left lane runs I saw that almost every time I left before the other guy without redlighting.

Since I had a good idea how far the car could go without unblocking the lights (and I was also staging as far back as I could since I had already realized the staging advantage mentioned by FordMan) I was always launching on the last yellow light which I guess explains the good reaction times.

I guess since I am not screwing myself on the launch I need to complete my gearing changes and engine mods so I can try to get into the 12s or 13s.

DrDirt
09-07-2002, 01:34 PM
Just like right and left handedness, you will probably find that you do better in one lane or the other. Of course that can be either negated or compounded by the differnces in the lanes themselves. One lane will usually be working better than the other as far as traction goes. If that also happens to be your good side...life can be beautiful. Usually though there are so many damn variables you don't know what to do. That's why guys like John Force make the big bucks at this and we do nothing put pay out the nose to do it.

Also, I didn't really answer your question...a good R/T is the one where you win the race.

Tony

afterburner
09-08-2002, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by "4.6Power"

:lol: :lol: GET AWD !!!
how would that help? that tip would help you, but getting AWD would just help me 60ft better but yet I bet I pull better short times then most of you AWD guys.

It was for everyone in general. Guess not everyone has your 60' times :D

Tom N
09-08-2002, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by "4.6Power"

:lol: :lol: GET AWD !!!
how would that help? that tip would help you, but getting AWD would just help me 60ft better but yet I bet I pull better short times then most of you AWD guys.





But we pull the same on the street as the track with regular old street tires. Not that i would condone street racing or anything. :wink: :D

Y2JAY
09-10-2002, 12:38 AM
TRIPLE H

Tom N
09-10-2002, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by "Y2JAY"

TRIPLE H





My hair is not that long. :D

CTate
10-16-2002, 10:52 AM
setting your car up correctly. Deep or shallow staging is fine, but if your car is set up wrong then it does you no good. I personally prefer a deeper stage to a shallower one. but my stage does me no good if I hit a .800 RT. Practice Practice Practice. Goto advanced auto and buy that drag raceing game it cost $2.99 and it helps on reactin time. get your reaction time down and you will see that even if your times stay the same you WILL WIN MORE RACES. get consistant and you'll WIN MORE RACES. Plus dropping $3000 in a 4 link or latter bar suspention with a race built 4.11 geared ford 9" rearend will also help you times. :wink: LOL...


See ya in my Rearview mirror....
CTate

obituary
10-20-2002, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by "CTate"

setting your car up correctly. Deep or shallow staging is fine, but if your car is set up wrong then it does you no good. I personally prefer a deeper stage to a shallower one. but my stage does me no good if I hit a .800 RT. Practice Practice Practice. Goto advanced auto and buy that drag raceing game it cost $2.99 and it helps on reactin time. get your reaction time down and you will see that even if your times stay the same you WILL WIN MORE RACES. get consistant and you'll WIN MORE RACES. Plus dropping $3000 in a 4 link or latter bar suspention with a race built 4.11 geared ford 9" rearend will also help you times. :wink: LOL...


See ya in my Rearview mirror....
CTate Amen hommie ..........street rice dont know shit about pullin the front wheels out of the lights !

Tom
11-05-2002, 11:00 PM
.503 for me baby :D

Scott
11-06-2002, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by "Tom"

.503 for me baby :D

Hey there smart guy, your reaction time has nothing to do with your 60ft. times. :D

Road Rage
11-06-2002, 07:06 PM
mine are always 2.0-2.3, guess its time for some drag radials. :D