Paint job cost: $757.56 - All products were Sherman Williams. I called a couple of paint stores and was told the same thing; it's good stuff. One guy told me, "The only thing that separates SW from Dupont and PPG is the price. SW costs less. It's just as good as any of them if the painter knows how to mix and shoot."
Sand and prep. Prime, 2 coats base, 3 coats clear. 3 year total cost repaint warranty/ years 4 and 5 would be pro-rated. I plan on waxing this car in about 3 months and will do it every 6months after that. I have no worries about the paint lasting.
I brought it in Monday morning and watched the sanding, cleaning, degreasing,trim removal including emblems and taping.
Tuesday I was there for prime, base and clear coating. As a matter of fact, I brought in a bunch of baked goods my wife made and drank coffee and ate the stuff with the guys while we were waiting on stuff. Probably didn't hurt the final product.
My orginal plan was to pay the service manager an extra $50 under the table to keep a close eye on things. He refused to take it after the work was done, and believe me, I insisted several times. He flat out wouldn't take it.
Anyway, I picked it up this afternoon after they finished polishing it up.
Here's some before and after shots. *Pic #4 is does not show overspray on seam between hood and fender, It's a trick of light or something.
There was no overspray, no runs, no orange peel. No problems at all.
Yep, that's right. Maaco. Signature Series paint job, with Value Prep, well under $800. Business seems to be a little slow there and the one I selected ( I went to 3 diferent Maaco's and let them know I was doing this) cut their price to the bone without too much haggling AND without sacrificing quality.
I watched them every step of the way. They took their time and did a real, real nice job.
Now some of you boys can say anything you want about Maaco. But remember now, they are franchises. They ain't all owned by one big corporation.
Find a good one, with good people working there and you can get a nice paint job for pretty low dough. And pretty quick too. Monday morning to Wednesday afternoon? FIne with me.
Right before and right after Christmas I imagine things are slow at most auto painting places. This is probably the best time of year to get a car painted.
My advice is to study up on car painting a little bit and learn the words so you don't get conned.
Insist on a work order that outlines exactly what they will do to the car and what materials will be used.
Insist on a written warranty.
Inspect it closely when it's done and have them fix any problems before you take off. (I couldn't find anything wrong with what they did for me).
Some auto painters won't like my giving out this advice. The honest ones won't mind a bit.
Oh yeah. What happened to all that overspray on the tires, windows and trim some of you boys promised me?????? I didn't get any.
oldschool98
12-17-2009, 08:09 AM
Its white--of course it looks good.
mickey
12-17-2009, 09:13 AM
Its white--of course it looks good.
I thought imperfections etc. would show up easier and be more noticeable on a white car and they would be hidden more by darker colors.
Anyway, $750 for their top of the line paint job with the warranty? I'll take it. I think I found a good Maaco that needed the work.
bdeitemeyer
12-17-2009, 03:33 PM
I thought imperfections etc. would show up easier and be more noticeable on a white car and they would be hidden more by darker colors.
Anyway, $750 for their top of the line paint job with the warranty? I'll take it. I think I found a good Maaco that needed the work.
Black would probably show more imperfections...in the daylight. For instance, over time a white car can accumulate tons of swirl marks & it hardly be noticeable whereas a black car with swirlmarks is incredible obvious. I guess it depends on the imperfections.
willyspaintshop
12-17-2009, 06:25 PM
yup black and silver
pure_kustoms
12-17-2009, 07:09 PM
congrats, let us see it in 6 months,.
mickey
12-17-2009, 10:01 PM
congrats, let us see it in 6 months,.
IT'S PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME!!!!!! (See below)
I hoped I'd be hearing from you, sour grapes.
What ever happened to all that overspray on the tires, windows and trim you promised me?????? I didn't get any. Not a friggin' drop!
I promise I'll post some pics in 6 months.
What do you predict will go wrong? Remember, I watched them every step of the way. And they did it right.
Do you think Sherwin Williams products are inferior? That's the only thing thing that could cause problems.
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
How about $100?
I will put up photos of the car on June 17th and we'll do a poll on whether the paint job has held up or not.
OR
You and I can agree on a "neutral" judge here in Tampa that I can bring the car to and let him be the judge of whether or not the paint is in good shape.
Whattya say, pal? Put up or shut up.
Or are you just talking out your ass as usual?
BAMF
12-18-2009, 02:02 AM
I had my car painted at the Maaco on Anderson/Hills and had all of the overspray you describe above, as well as some Premium Grade gravel embedded in my rocker panels. I paid about 700 bucks for that paintjob, IIRC.
You realize that the painters your insulting forgot more than most of the painters at Maaco know, right? The paintjob looks decent from the pictures. Congratulations. But don't go insulting the masters of the trade by insinuating that the bargain job you got compares to a good paintjob.
mickey
12-18-2009, 08:34 AM
I had my car painted at the Maaco on Anderson/Hills and had all of the overspray you describe above, as well as some Premium Grade gravel embedded in my rocker panels. I paid about 700 bucks for that paintjob, IIRC.
You realize that the painters your insulting forgot more than most of the painters at Maaco know, right? The paintjob looks decent from the pictures. Congratulations. But don't go insulting the masters of the trade by insinuating that the bargain job you got compares to a good paintjob.
I'm not insulting anyone. I just don't understand how anyone can say, "ALL Maacos suck and do poor work." It just isn't so.
The quality of the job received depends on which Maaco you go to, how talented (or untalented) the people who work on the car are and how much money you are willing to spend.
Sounds like you went to a Maaco that employed either untalented or uncaring people or both. And I'm sorry you're experience was a bad one.
I did my homework, talked to everyone who was involved in the job before it began and I watched the work being done.
It was a pain in the ass but it was worth it.
willyspaintshop
12-18-2009, 04:50 PM
lol the "a" in toyota is crooked. nice job maaco. the reason 99% of Maacos are no good is bc they receive a lot of rookies who just finished their certification to work for them. They pay them $9 an hour to paint cars. Honestly, no great painter is going to work for $9 an hour. thats peanuts
-I highly doubt they primed this car entirely. it would be a complete waste of time. and for the price you paid its not worth for them to spend 2 hours priming it.
-They DID NOT polish this car either. so do not even lie. a proper wet sand and buff would be the only thing to do to a car after its painted that makes sense. and they DID NOT wet sand and buff. that's easily $200 extra at maaco. just polishing a freshly painted car makes no sense and is a waste of time.
Borilove24
12-18-2009, 05:36 PM
lol the "a" in toyota is crooked. nice job maaco. the reason 99% of Maacos are no good is bc they receive a lot of rookies who just finished their certification to work for them. They pay them $9 an hour to paint cars. Honestly, no great painter is going to work for $9 an hour. thats peanuts
-I highly doubt they primed this car entirely. it would be a complete waste of time. and for the price you paid its not worth for them to spend 2 hours priming it.
-They DID NOT polish this car either. so do not even lie. a proper wet sand and buff would be the only thing to do to a car after its painted that makes sense. and they DID NOT wet sand and buff. that's easily $200 extra at maaco. just polishing a freshly painted car makes no sense and is a waste of time.
lol so true maaco sucks if your just trying to freshing up the look of your paint then yea by all means maaco for 700 includes the following: overspray like a bicth, runs, cheap ass clear paint brand dont matter although qaulity is key. clear plays the biggest role in fading, durability etc if you want good paint and want a good paintjob go through autobodys. ppg paint for the win idc what nobody says or what your opion is you get what you pay for i. i own a 2300 dollar paintjob on my ek hacth :D dont regret it one bit
pure_kustoms
12-18-2009, 11:36 PM
WOW, other people agree with me, and the other "real" painters on here,..
again, you asked for advice.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/paint-body-detailing/618198-need-recs-paint-job-94-camry.html
Hey,
My wife has a 94 Camry with only 80k miles. We just got through replacing ALL the seals on it, including the rear main. Did some other stuff too while we were in there too (timing belt and so on).
Anway, now we're looking to get it a nice paint job. It's white now and we ain't gonna change the color. The seals and stuff cost us quite a bit and we have only about $1,000 left to put into a paint job.
I don't know anything about car painting. What should we be wary of? What should we ask about the way they do it? I don't want to take it somewhere and get fast talked and screwed.
The problem with the paint is it got Malathion on it years ago and the resulting dark spots on the hood, roof, trunk are all the way through the paint so I guess we might as well get a complete repaint.
What can we expect for $1,000? Anybody recommend anybody in the Tampa area who can do a good job for $1,000?
Talk to me, guys. I need someone to take me to school on this.
Thanks,
Mickey
people did "school" you on this and you did not care,
shall i go on?.....
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C'mon guys. Is it going to be Maaco? We can go $1200 tops.
Macco quoted $800 for their "top of the line" Signature paint job with the Prep Plus package.
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30 or more people read this. No suggestions (other than don't go to Maaco)?
maybe because you are an ass and dont like what you hear??? maybe so,,
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I called back and left message-- so try me again!!
pure_kustoms
12-18-2009, 11:37 PM
you were contacted by pro's and you did not take the advice you asked for, so, to you,...
PUT UP OR SHUT UP,...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
flyspyder55
12-19-2009, 02:57 AM
same quality as dupont.... lmao tell you what... hold a lighter up to your fender for 60 seconds... let me know what happens... i'm willing to do it on MY PAINT
mickey
12-19-2009, 11:32 AM
same quality as dupont.... lmao tell you what... hold a lighter up to your fender for 60 seconds... let me know what happens... i'm willing to do it on MY PAINT
Good for you!
If you're driving down the street and someone points a fuckin' flamethrower at you, you'll have no worries.
pure_kustoms
12-19-2009, 02:59 PM
Good for you!
If you're driving down the street and someone points a fuckin' flamethrower at you, you'll have no worries.
it is a question of durability, you still will not take anyone's advice that has been doing this trade for years,.
grow up.
mickey
12-19-2009, 03:11 PM
it is a question of durability, you still will not take anyone's advice that has been doing this trade for years,.
grow up.
I see. Before I was going to get overspray on my lights and tires. And they were going to spray over the Toyota emblems and on and on and on.
But since that didn't happen and the car looks fine, now it's a durability question.
I can't prove you wrong on this one since my time machine is broken.
Earlier you said the paint job would look like shit in 6 months.
I offered you a chance to put your money where your mouth is and bet you $100 it would look good in a year. You declined what you called my "petty" bet.
OK, sucker. How about we make it $500? You seem to think your prediction is a "sure thing." So how about? Don't tell me you can't use $500.
If you decline the $500 wager, it will be because your not sure of all the shit you've been slinging on here.
$500. Are you in or are you gonna fold? I love it. After you pay me the $500 you're gonna owe me, my paint job will have cost me a whole lot less. Perfect!!!
pure_kustoms
12-19-2009, 03:20 PM
I see. Before I was going to get overspray on my lights and tires. And they were going to spray over the Toyota emblems and on and on and on.
But since that didn't happen and the car looks fine, now it's a durability question.
I can't prove you wrong on this one since my time machine is broken.
Earlier you said the paint job would look like shit in 6 months.
I offered you a chance to put your money where your mouth is and bet you $100 it would look good in a year. You declined what you called my "petty" bet.
OK, sucker. How about we make it $500? You seem to think your prediction is a "sure thing." So how about? Don't tell me you can't use $500.
If you decline the $500 wager, it will be because your not sure of all the shit you've been slinging on here.
$500. Are you in or are you gonna fold? I love it. After you pay me the $500 you're gonna owe me, my paint job will have cost me a whole lot less. Perfect!!!
If you drive it to me and let my prep/paint crew look at it then it is on,.
like i said before i can find some thing wrong with it and point it out to you,
just like killer mike d said, we can find problems in any job,.....
WE DO THIS FOR A LIVING!!! what do you do? you can find issues with what you do i am sure,..
bring it to me and yes it will be $500 cash, i dont take no checks or plastic on bets,...
Let me know,.. You say you got a great job for about 750 when i tried to offer to meet their price at 1200, so you put up or shut up,...
mickey
12-19-2009, 03:48 PM
If you drive it to me and let my prep/paint crew look at it then it is on,.
like i said before i can find some thing wrong with it and point it out to you,
just like killer mike d said, we can find problems in any job,.....
WE DO THIS FOR A LIVING!!! what do you do? you can find issues with what you do i am sure,..
bring it to me and yes it will be $500 cash, i dont take no checks or plastic on bets,...
Let me know,.. You say you got a great job for about 750 when i tried to offer to meet their price at 1200, so you put up or shut up,...
So you want me to let your boys be the judge(s) of the paint job? Sure, sound fair to me.
Of course KillerMike and you are right in that no paint job is "perfect." I didn't say my paint job was perfect.
I said they did a real nice job and I got a hell of a deal for under $800.
So I say we find an honest, NEUTRAL car painter pro, who will make the call on whether or not it's a nice job and worth what I paid for it.
You sound like you want to do it soon. All the better. I offered to do it in a year to answer the durability question. How about $500 now and $500 in a year. It'll give you a chance to win your money back.
Of course, you'll lose again in a year's time. Man, it'll be sweet. I'll have actually made money on the damn paint job.
pure_kustoms
12-19-2009, 03:58 PM
So you want me to let your boys be the judge(s) of the paint job? Sure, sound fair to me.
Of course KillerMike and you are right in that no paint job is "perfect." I didn't say my paint job was perfect.
I said they did a real nice job and I got a hell of a deal for under $800.
So I say we find an honest, NEUTRAL car painter pro, who will make the call on whether or not it's a nice job and worth what I paid for it.
You sound like you want to do it soon. All the better. I offered to do it in a year to answer the durability question. How about $500 now and $500 in a year. It'll give you a chance to win your money back.
Of course, you'll lose again in a year's time. Man, it'll be sweet. I'll have actually made money on the damn paint job.
you said you had gotten just as good a job for 750 that some one would have charged 2000 for, i can bring up the post, and no, it will not be my guys giving the final, there are 3 other shops within 5 miles of me, and my bet is that i can find at least half a dozen in-perfections the job.
mickey
12-19-2009, 04:26 PM
you said you had gotten just as good a job for 750 that some one would have charged 2000 for
Please show me that post. There is no fuckin' way I said I got just as good a job for $750 that someone would charge $2000 for.
But I guess it does happen.
I have see some REALLY poor quality paintjobs roll out of other local shops and the people paid $2000+.
So I guess it's true that maybe I got a better paint job for $750 than I would have gotten at some other places for $2000.
But still, show me where I said it. You're dreamin' on that one, amigo. I didn;t say it.
mickey
12-19-2009, 04:35 PM
lol the "a" in toyota is crooked. nice job maaco. the reason 99% of Maacos are no good is bc they receive a lot of rookies who just finished their certification to work for them. They pay them $9 an hour to paint cars. Honestly, no great painter is going to work for $9 an hour. thats peanuts
-I highly doubt they primed this car entirely. it would be a complete waste of time. and for the price you paid its not worth for them to spend 2 hours priming it.
-They DID NOT polish this car either. so do not even lie. a proper wet sand and buff would be the only thing to do to a car after its painted that makes sense. and they DID NOT wet sand and buff. that's easily $200 extra at maaco. just polishing a freshly painted car makes no sense and is a waste of time.
Just another clown throwing a shitload of mud hoping something sticks. What bullshit.
The "A" in Toyota is not crooked. And you can't tell if it was wet sanded or buffed by looking at the pics.
I wish I took some picks of all that beaded up rain on the car yesterday.
Don't worry. kustomkars or whatever his name is, is going to tell me precisely what pictures he wants to see and how to take them.
Why don't you chime in after I post those pics?
Now take your "crooked A" on home and get some sleep. You need it.
pure_kustoms
12-19-2009, 06:19 PM
Just another clown throwing a shitload of mud hoping something sticks. What bullshit.
The "A" in Toyota is not crooked. And you can't tell if it was wet sanded or buffed by looking at the pics.
I wish I took some picks of all that beaded up rain on the car yesterday.
Don't worry. kustomkars or whatever his name is, is going to tell me precisely what pictures he wants to see and how to take them.
Why don't you chime in after I post those pics?
Now take your "crooked A" on home and get some sleep. You need it.
this is some of my work, so you know this shop that is in the back i am no longer in, which did not have a true paint booth that i did these cars in.
i an in a new shop with a brand new col-met cross draft bake booth,
this booth cost $9500.00. do you think any of us are hurting for you $750 job??
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no, there are many fish in the sea, we do not need pain in the ass customers like your self,.
that money is not worth your bitching thru the whole job..
i know you kind,
you are the one that is there every single day saying
"why is that dent not fixed,"
"why is it not covering so good"
"why is it not shinny"
all because you will never give it time to be "FINISHED"
you wont let us do the job the way it should be done,
you look at it in the mid stage and then bitch the rest of the way,
it is a process, it will not look good one week into a two or three week job.
a good long lasting paint and body job takes time,
you wanted it done that week,
you will see next time that the people that you asked their professional advice were wright, even if you do not like what i have to say, listen to the other people and their knowledge.....
pure_kustoms
12-19-2009, 06:37 PM
also if you want i will put up pics of the latest job i am doing, the one i said yesterday, as soon as i can figure out how to get them uploaded to my computer,.
and by the way it is not hide all white, it is a forest green met with pearl,..
I will be wet sanding and buffing mid week, this is a 3 week job,..
dont try to say that your white out is going to look even close,...
and again,..
GROW UP,.
mickey
12-19-2009, 11:13 PM
also if you want i will put up pics of the latest job i am doing, the one i said yesterday, as soon as i can figure out how to get them uploaded to my computer.
Bullshit! How did you get those other pictures up?
i an in a new shop with a brand new col-met cross draft bake booth, this booth cost $9500.00.
I'm so impressed. How were you drying them before? I know, you just sat next to the cars and blew a shitload of your hot air on them. You wasted your money on the booth.
no, there are many fish in the sea, we do not need pain in the ass customers like your self,.
that money is not worth your bitching thru the whole job..
i know you kind,
you are the one that is there every single day saying
"why is that dent not fixed,"
"why is it not covering so good"
"why is it not shinny"
all because you will never give it time to be "FINISHED"
you wont let us do the job the way it should be done,
you look at it in the mid stage and then bitch the rest of the way,
it is a process, it will not look good one week into a two or three week job.
Man, what are you talking about? All that comes out of you is BULSHIT! I spent time there, yeah. I watched and learned. Since I didn't know anything, I never criticized anything. I watched, asked questions and learned. This is how I know you are full of crap. Before I went there, I only suspected it. Now I'm sure!
And I didn't piss anybody off. As a matter of fact, I'm having beers and watching football at a local watering hole tomorrow with a couple of the guys that work there.
You is nuts, baby.
mickey
12-19-2009, 11:22 PM
also if you want i will put up pics of the latest job i am doing, the one i said yesterday, as soon as i can figure out how to get them uploaded to my computer,.
and by the way it is not hide all white, it is a forest green met with pearl,..
I will be wet sanding and buffing mid week, this is a 3 week job,..
dont try to say that your white out is going to look even close,...
and again,..
GROW UP,.
I'm starting to feel sorry for you. You sound like a little kid.
Oh yeah! Where is that quote I allegedly made about a $750 job and a $2000 job? You said you'd find it and post it. It doesn't exist, does it, junior? Just more bullshit from you!
You just make stuff up as you go along. And when I point it out, you get pissed and make up even more!
Sorry. I won't let you get away with all your lying. I'm having a blast exposing you for the bullshit artist you are.
If bullshit were car painting, you'd be fucking Picasso!
You need 3 fuckin' weeks to do a nice job on a car? Pathetic. I could do a better job than you in two weeks using an instruction book and the trail and error method!
BAMF
12-19-2009, 11:37 PM
on a car? Pathetic. I could do a better job than you in two weeks using an instruction book and the trail and error method!
NOW we're getting to the root of the problem, here. Ignorance and arrogance side-by-side. You, sir, have absolutely no idea what a paint job really entails. Sitting there in the waiting room and looking through the windows at the Maaco guys who were spraying your car does not qualify you to paint a car.
But by all means, since you're making bold statements like this..as you said..."Put up or shut up."
mickey
12-20-2009, 12:16 AM
NOW we're getting to the root of the problem, here. Ignorance and arrogance side-by-side.
Yeah, you're right. I'm just tired of this little boy's bullshit.
But I hung around the back shop, not the waiting room. Why would i go there three days on a row to hang in the fuclign waiting room?
They gave me a mask so I was in the booth too. The painter was one smooth motherfucker. About 45 to 50 years old I would guess.
His arm just kinda glided over the car as he did his work. Some of the time he looked like a slow motion, dancing robot. it was cool to watch him work.
pure_kustoms
12-20-2009, 02:09 PM
you dont need a dryer in Florida mr. expert, they have this stuff called activator and such,.
and i took those other pics before my camera broke, i have plenty on my cell phone but need to blue tooth them to my computer,.
mickey
12-20-2009, 02:33 PM
you dont need a dryer in Florida mr. expert, they have this stuff called activator and such,.
and i took those other pics before my camera broke, i have plenty on my cell phone but need to blue tooth them to my computer,.
(yawn)
pure_kustoms
12-20-2009, 02:37 PM
(yawn)
again you are asking questions and you dont like the answer.
mickey
12-20-2009, 02:54 PM
again you are asking questions and you dont like the answer.
Not really. You're just starting to bore me.
Did you ever find where I said I got a $2000 paint job for $750?
No, of course you didn't. Why? Because I never said it.
pure_kustoms
12-20-2009, 03:47 PM
Not really. You're just starting to bore me.
Did you ever find where I said I got a $2000 paint job for $750?
No, of course you didn't. Why? Because I never said it.
you are making it out to be that your job you got is just as good as any of us would have charged, which usually starts out at about 2 grand,.
anyone feel free to chime in and tell us what your average starting point on a complete paint job,,....
jlmaxima4sale
12-20-2009, 06:38 PM
MACCO = GUYS WHO TRIED TO MAKE IT IN THE SHOP THAT CHARGES WELL OVER 2K BUT COULDNT HACK IT SO THEY WORK ALMOST MINIMUM WAGE NOT EVEN GROSSING 40K FOR A YEAR . THEY ARE HACKS ALL THE WAY NO MATTER WHICH ONE YOU GO TO. SHERWIN WILLIAMS WILL LOOK OK ON A OVERALL PAINT JOB BUT TRY TO DO A BLEND WITH IT . THE CLEAR IS PISS YELLOW IT WILL NEVER BE RIGHT. BRINGS BACK TO US REAL PROFESSIONALS CALL "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"
ON MACCOS BEST DAY THEY COULDNT PRODUCE THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT US REAL CERTIFIED PAINTERS PRODUCE ON OUR WORST DAY... I WILL EVEN COME TO YOU TO POINT OUT EVERY FLAW IN THAT JOB JUST TO STOP YOUR BS YAWNING CAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
mickey
12-20-2009, 08:50 PM
MACCO = GUYS WHO TRIED TO MAKE IT IN THE SHOP THAT CHARGES WELL OVER 2K BUT COULDNT HACK IT SO THEY WORK ALMOST MINIMUM WAGE NOT EVEN GROSSING 40K FOR A YEAR . THEY ARE HACKS ALL THE WAY NO MATTER WHICH ONE YOU GO TO. SHERWIN WILLIAMS WILL LOOK OK ON A OVERALL PAINT JOB BUT TRY TO DO A BLEND WITH IT . THE CLEAR IS PISS YELLOW IT WILL NEVER BE RIGHT. BRINGS BACK TO US REAL PROFESSIONALS CALL "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"
ON MACCOS BEST DAY THEY COULDNT PRODUCE THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT US REAL CERTIFIED PAINTERS PRODUCE ON OUR WORST DAY... I WILL EVEN COME TO YOU TO POINT OUT EVERY FLAW IN THAT JOB JUST TO STOP YOUR BS YAWNING CAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
Wow. Another generalizer. "All Maacos this." All Maacos that!"
There sure are some ignorant fuckers around here.
And look at all those caps! Do your lose your shit like that all the time?
Time for another round.
Ta Ta, loser.
(yawn, yawn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
importguy1208
12-20-2009, 09:02 PM
Basically it boils down to this.
You spent three days baby-sitting. I assure you everyone did a better job simply because you were there.
How boring is your life that you are able to spend three days doing nothing other than sitting around watching other people work?
I don't have a clue what you do or how much you make but I know if I had three days of vacation time/paid time off/sick leave etc. that I would not even remotely think about sitting around a body shop watching some UTI drop-outs trying to prove they have more brains than the dust on the shop floor.
Realistically I wouldn't be willing to stand around for anything less than $150 a day. You may be different.
Now YES there may not be any overspray anywhere, but I assure you that they did not do the same job of prepping your car that I or any of the handful of quality painters on this site would have done. Hell simply sanding the car with a DA would have taken half the day to do properly. Then there are all kinds of edges, grooves, and areas around seals that require extra attention to make sure they are scuffed well.
Do you know what happens to areas that don't get scuffed well? At first nothing. They look good for a while. Then the paint starts to lift, water gets under the paint, a crack appears, the water seeps further under the paint, and before you know it you have spots all over your car where your nice new paint job isn't so nice any more because the paint is coming off.
Will it happen? Maybe, maybe not. No way to tell until it happens at this point. But add in the fact that you have a cheaper quality paint stacked on top of poor/quickly done prep work and it just basically seems inevitable.
If Sherwin-Williams was as good as a paint as you say it is, it would not need to be talked up. Good paint speaks for itself.
Sorry about your luck.
pure_kustoms
12-20-2009, 09:30 PM
Wow. Another generalizer. "All Maacos this." All Maacos that!"
There sure are some ignorant fuckers around here.
And look at all those caps! Do your lose your shit like that all the time?
Time for another round.
Ta Ta, loser.
(yawn, yawn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
this is a guy that thinks since he was there for a paint job watching it done that he knows the in's and out's.
and by the way, my whole family was painters, sherwin williams paint is the crap even painting houses, if you want a good grade of paint everyone knows that Benjamin Moore paint is alot better,.
when ever you want to bring it to a real shop that does real work you let me know, i could use a thousand bucks,.
and then for all you shit talking you will have spent almost $1800 for a crap ass job,.
now who is the fool.
pure_kustoms
12-20-2009, 09:32 PM
Basically it boils down to this.
You spent three days baby-sitting. I assure you everyone did a better job simply because you were there.
How boring is your life that you are able to spend three days doing nothing other than sitting around watching other people work?
I don't have a clue what you do or how much you make but I know if I had three days of vacation time/paid time off/sick leave etc. that I would not even remotely think about sitting around a body shop watching some UTI drop-outs trying to prove they have more brains than the dust on the shop floor.
Realistically I wouldn't be willing to stand around for anything less than $150 a day. You may be different.
Now YES there may not be any overspray anywhere, but I assure you that they did not do the same job of prepping your car that I or any of the handful of quality painters on this site would have done. Hell simply sanding the car with a DA would have taken half the day to do properly. Then there are all kinds of edges, grooves, and areas around seals that require extra attention to make sure they are scuffed well.
Do you know what happens to areas that don't get scuffed well? At first nothing. They look good for a while. Then the paint starts to lift, water gets under the paint, a crack appears, the water seeps further under the paint, and before you know it you have spots all over your car where your nice new paint job isn't so nice any more because the paint is coming off.
Will it happen? Maybe, maybe not. No way to tell until it happens at this point. But add in the fact that you have a cheaper quality paint stacked on top of poor/quickly done prep work and it just basically seems inevitable.
If Sherwin-Williams was as good as a paint as you say it is, it would not need to be talked up. Good paint speaks for itself.
Sorry about your luck.
what is this one, the 12th or so that agree with me?
compared to your 2
bet is still on....
waiting on the pics in 6 or even 3 months
flyspyder55
12-21-2009, 12:28 AM
Good for you!
If you're driving down the street and someone points a fuckin' flamethrower at you, you'll have no worries.
see this is why you will learn from your mistakes... the damage that lighter does to your paint in 60 seconds will represent what the sun will do in 6 months. you keep calling people know it alls. you think because you spent a couple days listening to the dumbasses providing the shitty paint jobs that you know alot about paint?
these guys you talking shit to charge 3000 dollars for a color change for a reason, thats what an oem paint job costs. not because there labor is worth 300 an hour, because there charging reasonable hourly rates and taking more time doing it.
being a mechanic/fabricator, not a painter/bodyman, i get to watch and see the weeks worth of work that goes into fitting a bodykit the right way quality work takes time, and time costs money, end of story.
cheap paint is cheap for a reason, quality paint costs what you spent in paint and labor
Largo 5.0
12-21-2009, 02:58 AM
There's so much fucking stupidity in this thread, I wouldn't even know where to start...
chicacivic1217
12-22-2009, 04:49 AM
Wow. Another generalizer. "All Maacos this." All Maacos that!"
There sure are some ignorant fuckers around here.
And look at all those caps! Do your lose your shit like that all the time?
Time for another round.
Ta Ta, loser.
(yawn, yawn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
I read this whole thread and laughed the whole time.
Why are you riding Maacos balls?? lol
Are they paying you or something? who gives a shit, you like your paint job, fine.
But do not go and compare all these guys quality paint jobs to Maaco, there is just no comparison.
I just think its funny how offended you get when people say Maaco sucks lmao
Seriously, get over it.
Petitt
12-22-2009, 10:48 PM
Maaco Las Vegas Bowl is going on right now, just saying :lol:
JDM_FREAK
01-05-2010, 09:36 PM
the car looks great but pros know what their talking bout i just went outside with a lighter and put it to my truck for 60 secs and nutint happend maybe that will prove something ... was i sopused to do that ??? lol atleast nothing hapend
JamRex
01-08-2010, 01:10 PM
b*tch this is easy its obvious real paint shops are going to do betteer than maaco even YOU know it that why u sat there for 3 days and watched! if u had any confidence in them u woulda taken ur happy as home cus u KNEW it would come out right .. and the people here saying it are not the ignorants one they know their shit and jlmaxima (aka the guy with the caps ) is right bring ur car to a real shop and well pick out that "amazing" paint job and let u know how much it will cost to fix that shit maaco did ... u got a good "deal" dont confuse that with a good "paintjob"
JamRex
01-08-2010, 01:14 PM
I read this whole thread and laughed the whole time.
Why are you riding Maacos balls?? lol
Are they paying you or something? who gives a shit, you like your paint job, fine.
But do not go and compare all these guys quality paint jobs to Maaco, there is just no comparison.
I just think its funny how offended you get when people say Maaco sucks lmao
Seriously, get over it.
lmaoo i think we got an frustrated painter aka maaco employee trying to advertise
chicacivic1217
01-09-2010, 04:04 PM
^lmao
+1
JOKIETUNING
01-17-2010, 02:33 PM
:(
Sleeperlx
01-18-2010, 02:20 AM
Holy shit, I have a fucking headache now......Dude, You need to find something better to post about than a maaco paint job.
I can say that I have personally had a car painted by maaco, and know a few people who have as well.
I didn't get a shit load of over spray, However after about three months everything that was plastic (i.e) bumpers and filler panels were all cracking and peeling.
The car was painted twice after, (the maaco warranty).
If you got a good 750.00 dollar paint job congrats, But it is by know means something to start blasting your mouth off about.
You get what you pay for, It's a white paint job on a 94 camry, Who fucking cares!!!
junpower
02-14-2010, 06:50 AM
LOL
OK I also Hate MAcco and the Materials they use esp here in California!
Well Just wanted to stop by and show off what a real paint job costs and I do charge more than $4 grand+ for some of my paint jobs and I only do this as a hobby. =)
Before 67 charger
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/junpower/body%20and%20painting/BEFORE110.jpg
After
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/junpower/body%20and%20painting/IMG_0299.jpg
Roof
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/junpower/body%20and%20painting/IMG_0305.jpg
69 Camaro
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/junpower/body%20and%20painting/IMG_0239.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/junpower/body%20and%20painting/basecoat14.jpg
Wet Sanded and Polished Fender
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/junpower/body%20and%20painting/ftontpolishsand4.jpg
Now that's a nice paint job!
If anybody needs me out in Florida I can come and paint your car there!