So how was it?

[Adam12]

simply stated i didnt go was there anything worth seeing?

-Adam

[AWDTSi]

Well you missed alot of rice put it that way. It was like strobe fest last night if you didnt have the strobes you felt out of place. Its the last one I will be going to until I get my car back someday and can actually run there.

You missed the pro street cars that were running too. It is getting to be ridiculous with this stuff how they let these pro street cars run brought on trailers and inside trailers with the blowers sticking out the top of the car with the whine. No water in the water box but it doesnt prevent the guys from pouring cups of water in the water box right before they run. Maybe its just me but I thought this was a street racing event sure I dont mind cars being brought on trailers as long as they are driven on the street once in a while like hspwrss but these gusy last night were obvious pro street cars minus the sponsor stickers. These guys would get a couple runs in before you would even make it one run. :mad: :mad:

Oh and you guys missed the kid who was airlifted out of the place. Did anyone know him or know how he is doing now? Hopefully he is alright.

[draggin6380]

Yeah--I heard something about a radiator blowing up in someones face (?) But I saw the chopper. Gotta agree with you on those Pro-Streets...thats why I came to 1320--to race STREET cars. No offense but they have their time and place too...But I do have one thing to say---GO SUPER TWINKIE!!!! That van was cool :)

It was a ricefest out there. I thought about bringing my riced-out eclipse next time just to stand by it and blend in a little better and having my girl drive the 5.0 that we run :) Weve got a few more things to do with he stang--I want it in the 11s then well start on the Eclipse.

[AWDTSi]

Yeah thats what happened supposedly. Someone said he tried to open the radiator cap or something or was looking at a lone or something and it blew up in his face all over his face he was burned. Dont quote:14fe29ea31 me on any of this I dont know exactly how it happened thats just what someone said although I do know he got burned all over his face from the radiator somehow.

Yeah that van was pretty bad ass. Dont get me wrong I love watching those fast things run but not at a street racing event and if they are going to let them run then they should have to wait in the staging lanes on the same side everyone else is not be allowed to come from the other side and get to run a couple times before everyone else only runs once.

[Shin180sx]

WTF? How could it blow up.. And is anyone that dumb to remove their radiator cap right after a hard run down the track?

[Scott]

I am a wordy bitch but please read all of this before you post it may answer your questions. :)

Because there are so few Pro Cars or race cars as compared to all of the others they are allowed to use the other side of the track and wait less in line.

You have to see this from both sides of the coin. I have friends that have fast as hell street cars and pro cars. And I have friends with 16 second rice mobiles. Both love racing none-the-less. The faster cars (11 seconds and quicker) are absolutley tired of having to wait in line with a 1000 imports or non-race vehicles. It gets very old for the pro or faster cars to see these people beat the hell out of there 15 thru 18 second rides again and again when they have nothing to learn or gain from the run. I know its fun to do but it just makes the line long when people go run and pull right back in line.

So to combat this and keep the people that have race cars happy they let them use the line on the other side of the track to get through quicker. These people dont make 5-10-15 runs a night like the non race cars do. And I am not trying to sound like a dick by using the term race cars and non-race cars that is just a easier way to explain this.

The pro or race cars are the ones that pay the bills at the track so the management does not want to scare them off otherwise shit rolls down hill if you know what I mean. And the debate can be made that they should not even be out at the Club 1320 events but keep in mind a lot of these cars ARE street raced ! Just because most of us are used to seeing mostly 12-16 second cars street race it does not mean these guys arent doing it as well. :evil2: Because they are !

Hope that helps let me know if you have any other concerns or suggestions.

[GTIXpress]

I have one request change the music! Put on 93.3 or something other than 98.7. Not everyone wants to hear that rap crap. I ended up leaving before 11p because of all the rice and bad music.

[jdmKoupe]

I was surprised about the amount of people there. At least there is enough support to put something together like this. I will have to agree to excessive amount of rice Also Lanes need to be a bit more organized. I noticed lanes 1&2 moving at least 10 cars more. I would go again though.

[AWDTSi]

Well the pro street guys still went to the track before they started this 1320 so not allowing them at this event doesnt mean they are going to go anywhere. They have to run there cars somewhere and I dont see another 1/4 mile track around the corner. They can go to all the regular test and tunes. If they seek nightime action they can go thursday night. Its just my opinion that this was set up as a street racing event and every time the envelope gets pushed more and more. Wartch next time we will be seeing sponsored pro street cars.

And what high horse are those pro street guys on?? They think just because they are fast they dont have to wait in line with everyone else. Just because they dont feel like waiting in line they can just jump ahead? They talk about not like waiting for the 16 second cars to go well they take longer than 16 seconds with all their staging and burnout box shit. In my mind just because they are faster doesnt mean shit they should still have to wait in line just like everyone else.

There was a guy in a white mustang who was beating that yellow van but where was he lined up at??? Right in line where everyone else was where all the other fast cars should have been.

And as far as paying the bills I think they didnt pay jack last night compared to the amount of slower cars as they would say it did.

[Chismoe]

I very highly doubt that a few of these cars are street raced. What makes me mad is that they are using it for a test and tune and thats not what the event is for. THEN they dont even post a time! If I have to wait an extra 2 min just because one of them wants to make a solo run I darn sure want to see what they run.

Next is the fact that those cars are extremely dangerous when they line up with street cars. I saw the white/blue/burgandy 2 door coupe with huge blower and no hood line up with a Bullitt (looked like) Mustang. When he took off he almost took out the 60 box and wound up going down the track over the middle line. Now I know he got out in front of the other car fast but he never tried to slow down to make sure he had control and could have taken out someone that was faster.

Bottom line. This is a STREET event. No water boxes no trailor queens and yet they have been there every time. Its getting old. If they are going to insist on running they should at least be made to show times.

Other than that...1320 was a blast. There were more people than Ive ever seen at an event before. But if you got there after 11 you probably only got 2 or maybe 3 runs in. This was the slowest moving night Ive seen too I believe. But it was nice to see so many people...even though I maybe saw 10 cars break 15.

[slowy95]

i too thought it was a STREET RACING thinglike to try and keep people from racing on the streets
why the fuck do the race or pro cars come out?
oh i know whythey can just jump in front of everybody else whenever they are ready to run and that is bullshit.
we pay 8 bucks they pay 8 bucks why should they go before us just cuz they are faster?
that damn van ran 4 times while my friend waited in line 45 minutes to fuckin run.
and that black vette Vs the blue hatchthey ran oncefucked upthen 4 more racesthen they ran again. whats up with that?
seems like the track people dont care about the slower cars.
they should make the rules a lil stricter
drive it to the track
put on ur slicks or whatever
race it
drive it home (if it dont break)
period

dont get me wrongid rather see a 12 than a 17but the faster cars all run N/T. and then againwe all have to wait in line while they just jump ahead of everyone.

[b16a2pwr]

I agree. its not worth the drive!

[Penis]

ya i knew the kid...his name is chris. we rode there together with a group of friends. his radiator hose frayed and blew so it was smoking and when he popped the hood he thought all the pressure was gone so he opned the radiator cap and got 2nd degree burns on his face. he is in the intensive care burn unit for 3 days. it was a stupid mistake. i went to the hospital and they said that he will look normal again in about a month or two. did anyone remember that all-motor civic that ran a 12.20. that bitch was crazy.

[Dyson-77]

Besides the pros& the strobes it was good turn out-
A wide variety of imports especially more nissans then in the past. Saw a few turboed 240sx and se-rs-

[Scott]

Originally posted by "Someone"

Originally posted by AWDTSi
Well the pro street guys still went to the track before they started this 1320 so not allowing them at this event doesnt mean they are going to go anywhere. They have to run there cars somewhere and I dont see another 1/4 mile track around the corner. They can go to all the regular test and tunes. If they seek nightime action they can go thursday night. Its just my opinion that this was set up as a street racing event and every time the envelope gets pushed more and more. Wartch next time we will be seeing sponsored pro street cars.

And what high horse are those pro street guys on?? They think just because they are fast they dont have to wait in line with everyone else. Just because they dont feel like waiting in line they can just jump ahead? They talk about not like waiting for the 16 second cars to go well they take longer than 16 seconds with all their staging and burnout box shit. In my mind just because they are faster doesnt mean shit they should still have to wait in line just like everyone else.

There was a guy in a white mustang who was beating that yellow van but where was he lined up at??? Right in line where everyone else was where all the other fast cars should have been.

And as far as paying the bills I think they didnt pay jack last night compared to the amount of slower cars as they would say it did.




O.k. lets hope you read all of this. You guys are obviously not reading what I am posting.

Just because there is not another track around doent mean you dangle that over the heads of the pro or faster cars. Ever heard the phrase piss off one person they will tell ten others make one person happy and they will tell one friend ?
The pro cars have the connections and bring other pro cars. That is not to belittle the non-race cars they are important to it is just simply the truth.

If you dont allow certain people in to race that means you have to draw a line somewhere and so where do you draw the line ? Tell people no trailored cars and they will park at the Hess station and drive in. Tell them no slicks and you will have cars that do not normally run street tires all over the track. You people just dont get it when it comes to running a track. Why should the slower (non-pro/race cars) get a complete night to themselves ? It is not like there are 20-30-40 trailored cars showing up to these events. If that was the case the owners would address it immediatley. But you wont get that many trailored cars to show up trust me !

Do they have a day or night when they say no 14 second and up e.t. cars allowed ? Nope. But guess what they are working on a day like this right now. And then guess what you guys will be bitching about why cant we race on this night ? No one wins when you draw a line somewhere. Get it now ?

And how many pro / race cars really show up at 1320 ? Less than ten ? Compared to how many of the others ? Exactly ! So they should not have to wait in line. Especially since they do not make run after run after run like everyone else.

They are not testing and tunning there cars at 1320. They do not get timeslips and that is what these guys need to tune there cars. They are out there to put on a show. And yes some of them ARE street raced ! Trust me I know first hand.

Anymore questions ? Not trying to be a dick here but everyone just looks at this from THEIR prospective not everyones.

[BlkZ28]

I kind of agree with Fordman there werent alot of trailor cars there and if there were 40 I start to bitch.

I kind of wish the lanes would go quicker but oh well and the guy that was helping to set people up to race did a good job also I thought.

Yeah change the station to like 97.1 or even 93.3

[slowy95]

Originally posted by "Someone"

Originally posted by Fordman
O.k. lets hope you read all of this. You guys are obviously not reading what I am posting.

Just because there is not another track around doent mean you dangle that over the heads of the pro or faster cars. Ever heard the phrase piss off one person they will tell ten others make one person happy and they will tell one friend ?
The pro cars have the connections and bring other pro cars. That is not to belittle the non-race cars they are important to it is just simply the truth.

If you dont allow certain people in to race that means you have to draw a line somewhere and so where do you draw the line ? Tell people no trailored cars and they will park at the Hess station and drive in. Tell them no slicks and you will have cars that do not normally run street tires all over the track. You people just dont get it when it comes to running a track. Why should the slower (non-pro/race cars) get a complete night to themselves ? It is not like there are 20-30-40 trailored cars showing up to these events. If that was the case the owners would address it immediatley. But you wont get that many trailored cars to show up trust me !

Do they have a day or night when they say no 14 second and up e.t. cars allowed ? Nope. But guess what they are working on a day like this right now. And then guess what you guys will be bitching about why cant we race on this night ? No one wins when you draw a line somewhere. Get it now ?

And how many pro / race cars really show up at 1320 ? Less than ten ? Compared to how many of the others ? Exactly ! So they should not have to wait in line. Especially since they do not make run after run after run like everyone else.

They are not testing and tunning there cars at 1320. They do not get timeslips and that is what these guys need to tune there cars. They are out there to put on a show. And yes some of them ARE street raced ! Trust me I know first hand.

Anymore questions ? Not trying to be a dick here but everyone just looks at this from THEIR prospective not everyones.[/b]


but didnt the track people set this up as a street night?
from what i understand thats what its supposed to be.

speaking of drawing lines who drew the line to say whos car is fast enough to not have to wait in line?

i think a 13s and under night/day would be cool but then ud have the slow people wanting a 13s and up night.
i remember reading a thread on here(i think) about the fast guys wanting a slicks only nightsomething about radial tires messin up the track and all that and the long lines of family cars waiting to run.

from the pro peoples prospective
pay 8 bucks to get in run when u want dont have to wait in line its night time which is cooler and its long enough to tinker with the car.
HELL MUTHAFUCKIN YA id gocant blame em.

i see where ur comin from fordman they dont wanna discriminate against the fast guys and i dont run at 1320 just cuz of the lines.

[AWDTSi]

I understand your point fordman and it works the same way. Piss the peopel off and they wont come. But see you piss of the slow cars by letting the pro people get away with anything then guess what? You will be losing alot more people then just a few pro cars. I think there were alot more slow cars there. Its not that I really have a problem with them running there as long as there is only a few but to me they have no special priveledges to not have to wait in Line. They should have to wait in line just like everyone else we all pay the same 8 bucks and just cause they are faster shouldnt give them extra priveledges. And dont give me the crap if you dont satisfy there every wish they will tell all there friends not to run here. Like I said there isnt a track around here that is 1/4 mile so they can tell all the friends they want they still will come here.

[Scott]

Once again you do not dangle the fact that there are no other tracks near by as a reason not to worry about the pro guys. As we all know they have trailors and they WILL and have been going elsewhere regardless of what you think.. If the track went about this the way you suggest why not just keep doing what they are doing because given the long lines of street cars and non-race cars people are obviously still showing up given the lines? Wait thats what they are doing and people are still coming out.

On the other hand the amount of pro cars or race cars that are fun to watch and bring spectators in have been on the decline at ALL of the events and T n Ts. Why ? Because the track on any given day or event is getting over-run with grocery getters and riced out cars which is chasing off the pro-race cars and spectators. Non-race cars are a needed commodity but they are starting to get excessive on any given day.

Quote : from the pro peoples prospective
pay 8 bucks to get in run when u want dont have to wait in line its night time which is cooler and its long enough to tinker with the car.

I guess you really do not understand the faster cars. First off night time is terrible for the pro cars becasue there is no heat in the track which makes getting traction terrible especially when it is cooler out. These guys could care less about the cost given the money in their cars.

But you are right on one thing they do tinker some between rounds which means one thing they are not pulling right back in line after a run like all the other cars which is making the lines long and is the very reason why we are having this discussion.

[slowy95]

Originally posted by "Someone"

Originally posted by Fordman

On the other hand the amount of pro cars or race cars that are fun to watch and bring spectators in have been on the decline at ALL of the events and T n Ts. Why ? Because the track on any given day or event is getting over-run with grocery getters and riced out cars which is chasing off the pro-race cars and spectators. Non-race cars are a needed commodity but they are starting to get excessive on any given day.

Quote : from the pro peoples prospective
pay 8 bucks to get in run when u want dont have to wait in line its night time which is cooler and its long enough to tinker with the car.

I guess you really do not understand the faster cars. First off night time is terrible for the pro cars becasue there is no heat in the track which makes getting traction terrible especially when it is cooler out. These guys could care less about the cost given the money in their cars.

But you are right on one thing they do tinker some between rounds which means one thing they are not pulling right back in line after a run like all the other cars which is making the lines long and is the very reason why we are having this discussion.


more and more people are gettin into racing ya it sucks that we have to watch the 18s go down the track but we all started somewhere (and when u start with a 4cylu got a longer ways to go)

with the heat and track makes sense ive never thought about it (awd).

i wish people would tinker with their cars inbetween runs maybe they could actually make improvements in times but most hardly have a K&N air filter much less some sort of tuning device.

i still dont agree with them just jumpin in line and runnin whenever they please.

[Scott]

Glad to see you understand some of this now. I dont have nor does the track have any simple solution for this.

The pro / race guys rarely post on here so you guys do not see or hear it. But I do hear it from them at the track and elsewhere.

At least you can see that I am trying to help everyone here. And the track is trying to do there thing too. It will take time but they will get it. :)

[AWDTSi]

Yeah you still have yet to answer my question what makes them think they are so mighty that they dont have to stand in line with everyone else. They arent any special cause they have a faster car. Make them wait in line like everyone else and all this would be settled. Thats the biggest complaint by alot of people.

[Scott]

I have answered your question several times now. They let the pro cars use the line on the other side because there are so few of them as compared to the others. Probably like 20 to 1.

And if someone offered you the use of a shorter line wouldnt you use it ?

[AWDTSi]

Well there are few All wheel drive cars too does that mean that we can use the shorter line too? Its not a matter of how few they are it shouldnt matter how fast you are. I think it is a bunch of BS that just because there are only a couple of them and they are faster they get to have their own private line since we all pay teh same amount of money to run.

[Chismoe]

Let me propose an analogy as to how many of us like AWDTSi feel.

race cars running and butting in line is to 1320
as
14+ second cars butting in line and running is to a regular race event.

Bottome line that WE are trying to get accross is that: 1320 was design for STREET cars to get people off the streets on the weekends. If race cars want to run they can push their cars in the lines to get to run just like the rest of us.

And if they are there to entertain then they need to post some times.

[Scott]

So let me get this straight if they paid more this would make everything o.k. ? You are changing your point yet again. First it was keep the pro cars out then make them wait in the regular line and now it sounds like a cost issue. I am confused.

This is now a dead horse anyway. We can gripe about this all day and it will not solve anything.

When it gets out of hand or if lots of people start to complain about it I will pass it along to the correct people.

[Cozma]

The kid removed his radiator cap because his car was overheating. This was after a run down the track. It didnt blow up...

[draggin6380]

Originally posted by "Someone"

Originally posted by tegpenis
ya i knew the kid...his name is chris. we rode there together with a group of friends. his radiator hose frayed and blew so it was smoking and when he popped the hood he thought all the pressure was gone so he opned the radiator cap and got 2nd degree burns on his face. he is in the intensive care burn unit for 3 days. it was a stupid mistake. i went to the hospital and they said that he will look normal again in about a month or two. did anyone remember that all-motor civic that ran a 12.20. that bitch was crazy.

Yeah...its my buddy Jasons...he had a few good races but some pressure on with the vette--at the end of the night he had a really good run with a tubbed pickup-I still cant believe how quick that is for a civic :)

[MitsuBucci]

Originally posted by "Someone"

Originally posted by FordMan
First it was keep the pro cars out then make them wait in the regular line and now it sounds like a cost issue. I am confused.



First it WAS keep the pro cars out but YOU said they have a right to be there because they too are out street racing. Well then they SHOULD wait in line with everyone else. What makes you fast enough to go to the front of the line? My car runs low 12s on radials. Faster than a lot of these pro cars that go to the front of the line because they were brought in on a trailer. (I drive mine) Also it is not a Cost issue AWDTSI was simply stating that WE pay as much as THEY do. We should ALL have to wait in line and watch the slow cars together. There shouldnt even be a need for an argument about what is a street car if everyone was treated the same. The Track is putting them under this pro name by giving them special treatment. It bullshit as far as Im concerned and I AM a track regular who has been there 2 times a week on average for the past 3 years.

[AWDTSi]

Yeah that is my point exactly that he wasnt understanding. Its not a matter that they should pay more my point was that we all pay 8 dollars so we should all wait in the same line. I wouldnt even want them there if they were charged 20 dollars cause that money doesnt go through my hands at all so I would still have to wait just as long while these pro cars just jump ahead and run a couple times before we even get to run once. Give them there own slick night on tuesday and tell them to stay the hell away from the 1320 STREET Racing Event.

If these cars are supposedly street raced then they can be driven in the lines just like all the rest of them.

[16gAWD]

You guys are preaching to a domestic owner that doesnt understand (may never understand). This is just like all the import races that are around the area. For example War of the Imports (Orlando) gets less and less attandance every time because they let in SUVs sedans american cars anything on 4 wheels because they are greedy (basically if you have money they will let you run same thing with Lakeland events). People just dont want to see it so people wont go. This is the same thing here. You call it street racing at the track. This means street legal cars. Do what the track was originally intended to do (let in street legal cars ONLY). I mean real street legal cars too not cars that have a parachute on them slaped license plates on the them and cant make it 10 miles without refueling at the nearest gas station or breaking down. No one who has a real street car would race on of them. Oh well this is the reason why I didnt go this time. I may not make it to the next one either but you can just let another trailer queen in to take my place.

James
Sorry had a bad day just blowing off steam

[Scott]

I should have expected that comment sooner or later. Thats right us domestic owners on a whole (especially me) are just bafoons with 15 second cars ! So what do I not understand ? Better yet what is there to understand ?

I pretty much resent your first comment bad day or not especially since you are judging me without knowing all of the facts! The funny thing here is that you guys poke fun at and are tired of seeing 100+ ricers and 17 second drag machines at the 1320 events but are bitching about 5-10 trailored cars that run fast ? Who cares if they get their own line they are only going to make a few passes anyway and have downtime between each run.

Granted everyone should be able to come and run what ya brung whether it runs 17 seconds or 9 seconds they all have there place. But believe it or not there are actually street races that I guess you guys dont know about that have sub 10 second cars racing. I think most of you guys just figure trailored cars do not street race wrong ! Stupid as hell and I do not condone it but it happens.

What makes you think that all of the trailored cars at 1320 are not street legal ? I know that three of them that usually come out to 1320 live in Largo and driving that far at night in that fast of a car is not feasable but trailoring it down is. Sorry they do not get the same gas mileage as your cars but thats the price you pay when you want to go fast. And all three of these guys have been seen DRIVING there cars to gatherings closer to Largo. So if you have a parachute you must not be street legal ? Ever seen the blue tubbed Viper in Largo that is on the street almost everyday ? Guess what he has a chute !

So you guys are trying to tell me that if BMP banned any car from coming in on a trailor at 1320 you would be happier ? How about if 5-10 imports that ran in the 9s pulled in and BMP told them sorry got to go. Think all hell would break loose from the mostly import crowd ? Yeah that is what I thought.

Try looking down both sides of the street not just one.

[88EFSiR1J1]

the waiting time was an hour+ thanx to all the highschool kids out there running there moms bone stock SUVs and trucks just running for shits and giggles at least a quarter of the people out there fall in this class. I think I stick to test and tune nights when the kitties have a bed time. ( when I can get off work)

[16gAWD]

Yes Ive seen 9s cars streetrace. Ive also seen them trailored in and have seen them loose control too. But hey if you want to slap a liscense plate on a dragster and call it street legal the more power to ya. You asked ever month how it and people tell you. This is only my opinion but Im not the only one.

PS.
If Ive seen any 9s imports I would say bye bye too. Most likely they are rotaries (bap bap bap) anyways. Too loud and can blow up at any time.

[MitsuBucci]

Originally posted by "Someone"

Originally posted by fordman
Who cares if they get their own line they are only going to make a few passes anyway and have downtime between each run.

Granted everyone should be able to come and run what ya brung whether it runs 17 seconds or 9 seconds they all have there place.

#1. I fucking Care. If they are allowed their own line I should be allowed MY own line. I dont do a burnout so Im staged and gone before anyone knows it. I also dont run the car 40 times a night. What makes them better?

#2. Granted everyone should have to wait in line like the rest of us if they all have their place.

I dont care if John Force wants to line up with Kenny Bernstein at 1320 as long as they wait in line with everyone else!

Im not going to waste my time about it anymore it doesnt matter. T&T nights work just fine for me. Fuck 1320.

[Scott]

That was the response I was finally waiting for ! Now I can finally shut this thread down and start fresh.

Sorry to see you will not be attending 1320 anymore over a handful of cars but that is your choice.