View Full Version : R/T Dakota rant
CrazyMoparGirl
09-26-2001, 02:20 PM
What is it with these R/T guys that they think they are soo special. Before I got my Dakota it was hell yeah I can get you this and that and we can make it fast. Then they found out I got a SLT. Then the game of you cant do that to a 5.2L. Example 5.2L wont accept 2.02 valves. Umm ok I know it is a Magnum and it is different than my cop car that has a 5.2L with 2.02 valves. And then the part about if it was a Multi Port FI you could do that umm ok I thought it was Multi Port???? Am I insane??? dont answer that I know better. So any ways I wish someone would show them that just because it says R/T and has the all important vin# so what??? 5.2L 5.9L so close still can be built up just as bad a$$ as the other. Okwell I feel better time to go back to Project Evil UnR/T Dakota.
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Iroc Joe
09-26-2001, 11:36 PM
yes they are practically the same fuckin engine.....tell em to fuck off :)
Clint
09-27-2001, 11:01 AM
Actually The reason your copcar has 2.02 valves in it is because you have 360 (5.9) heads on that 318 thats the way copcars were built.
You cannot fit 2.02 valves in stock 318 (5.2) heads as they are too big unless you buy different heads for your engine you will have to stick to smaller valves..
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CrazyMoparGirl
09-27-2001, 02:26 PM
Actually I bought R/T heads for my truck but they were saying that the 2.02s wouldnt work because I have a 5.2L which is a smaller bore than a 5.9L. They baisically turned to me and said it isnt an R/T so it wont work. Of course my mad Irish side turned and said Watch me make it work I am determined to prove that my little 5.2L can be just as mean if not meanier than their 5.9L
GTIXpress
09-27-2001, 09:38 PM
Theyre just pissed because their R/Ts are slow and get 8 MPG. :) I almost purchased one till I started looking at the specs. For a stock truck they tend to get rather pathetic times on the track and only 250hp from a 360? Come on now. And most traditional mods dont offer much in HP gains. I will give them one thing they do look nice.
CrazyMoparGirl
09-28-2001, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by "Someone"
Originally posted by GTIXpress
For a stock truck they tend to get rather pathetic times on the track and only 250hp from a 360? Come on now. And most traditional mods dont offer much in HP gains. I will give them one thing they do look nice.
Stock 14.6 1/4 from a 4300 lb truck isnt that bad. Some people that are building them up are getting good gains but they still have that Im God complex. But they all tend to do the Looks first thing and I hate that. Id rather look stock and be bad ass then do the ricer stuff just to add a slap. but that is me. Besides how the hell are the crate engines which are carb engines getting 380 hp? or r the trucks rated at the ground? hmm something to figure out
Waitin4aSS
10-05-2001, 12:50 AM
[/quote]Stock 14.6 1/4 from a 4300 lb truck isnt that bad. Some people that are building them up are getting good gains but they still have that Im God complex. But they all tend to do the Looks first thing and I hate that. Id rather look stock and be bad ass then do the ricer stuff just to add a slap. but that is me. Besides how the hell are the crate engines which are carb engines getting 380 hp? or r the trucks rated at the ground? hmm something to figure out
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The crate engines are much more built then a out of the factory 360. BTW my dads Irish in him tells him to get rid of his dogged ass 318 and put in a 360 lol...but his is over 10 years old.
CrazyMoparGirl
10-09-2001, 03:15 PM
I wish I could stick the crate engine in my truck. Unfortunately I would have to change the cam to get it to run right. Apparently the crate engine doesnt create enuff vacuum to run right.
Clint
10-10-2001, 09:34 AM
Yeah thats why they call it a barely streetable engine..
You COULD get some sort of vacuum canister or they have electric vacuum pumps that will create enough vacuum for power brakes etc...
CrazyMoparGirl
10-14-2001, 08:22 PM
Actually I could swap the cam and be good to go
Clint
10-15-2001, 09:08 AM
oh sure take the EASY way out.. ;)
actually that could be an easy option since you should tear the crate engine down and reassemble it yourself anyways (you cant really trust that the factory got it right no warantee!)
CrazyMoparGirl
10-22-2001, 08:47 AM
Amen brutha Clint!!!
Marc 99 R/T
10-23-2001, 02:32 PM
A 360 can run a 318 in the ground. I know a guy in Coco beach area dynoed at 634 hp. and a ton of torque. There no way a 318 would even come close. hehe
Marc 99 R/T
10-23-2001, 02:39 PM
My first sentence should of been. A 318 cant beat a 360 if you put the same amount of money into each.
CrazyMoparGirl
10-26-2001, 06:02 AM
Ever heard of R/T Killer? 318 SLT Stompimg:5301bb35a6 R/Ts. Yes it can be done The biggest difference is the bore size so Lets not get into this argument I have plenty of proof on the 318 vs. 360 subject.
Marc 99 R/T
10-26-2001, 10:06 AM
Dollar for Dollar I think your wrong. Can you run a 408 stroker kit on a 318 NO?
If Im not mistaken there is a SMALLER stroker kit for the 318.
BTW... I was not trying to start an arguement. I only wanted to put some facts on the table. Isnt that what message boards are for???
CrazyMoparGirl
10-27-2001, 06:02 AM
Well lemme think .7L worth of machine work?? would you actually do that to your stock block? more than likely not so Technically I could get a 5.9L magnum block for nothing then it is just a matter of machine work and the 408 kit (BTW that is the smaller of the 2 kits but what would I know Im a girl)
WICKED
11-17-2001, 02:54 AM
The club cab only weighs 3500lbs dry and the single cab weighs 3100. Thats wh they only have 250HP. Theres no way in hell they would put any more horsepower in a light-assed truck. It would be like driving on ice. Your best best would be to either add a turbo or supercharger to your stock internals (with intake exhaust and fuel control) or my choice would be to do basic machine work to get HP. You could shave a set of 360 magnum heads to raise your compression port them to increase the flow over stock 360 heads have your cam ground by Crower or Lunati to increase the lift and duration and do some fuel mods. A manual trans or a built auto with stall converter and shift kit is the first step.
I could definitely help you get it moving. Have you been to the track yet?
CrazyMoparGirl
11-17-2001, 12:47 PM
Actually I went to the track last night. Time slips go as follows:
run 1
2 people in truck me driving 1st time down a 1/4 in 5 yrs
r/t- 1.345 ewwwww
60 ft- 2.635
1/4 et - 17.347 @ 77.86
run 2
me bymyself
r/t- 1.039
60 ft- 2.604
1/4 et- 16.874 @81.13
run 3
me bymyself
r/t- .814
60ft- 2.578
1/4 et- 16.854 @ 80.95
run 4
1/2 hour cool down not me driving or in truck
r/t- 1.181
60ft- 2.425
1/4 et- 16.39 @ 81.73
run is the faastest the truck has ever run take into consideration that I am in Phoenix way above sea level and I dont know how to convert the et for sea level. Also I have a set of r/t heads that are getting a 5 angle valve job ported polished and matched to my 4 bbl intake plus 1.7 rockers as far as cam im not worrying about it yet since i am getting a vortech later on. I know of a guy who has a slt like mine that is running 12s on nos and 13s w/ nos. he hasnt done intake cam or heads yet but he is n/a. the wrst thing about these trucks is they arent easy to tune like the omnis and similar vehicles.
Oh yeah I forgot I currently am a one wheel wonder but next month i will be a two wheel wonder I know my r/t time sucked as well as the 60 ft. I get better traction on the street than I do at the track :confused: but thats ok soon i will have a set of slicks for the track.
WICKED
11-17-2001, 06:05 PM
1. weight reduction
2. traction
3. mods
Start by taking everything you dont need off of the truck and maybe getting a set of lightweight wheels. Do everything you can to reduce the weight.
After that you NEED a limited slip rear end with some steep gears in it and a set of sticky tires.
Then worry about the engine. You need to take the platform you have right now as fast as possible before you waste money on mods. You can break into the 15s without touching the engine.
CrazyMoparGirl
11-18-2001, 09:13 PM
I know i can get into the 15s rather easily. Its the 11s that im after. I have my plan and fiberglass parts are not cheap for dakotas. technically for $500 i could be in the 13s with nos but why? i dont want a bottle baby i want a bad azz truck. My plan is as follows:
get a 360 short block do the 408 stroker in it already have the heads intak and tb for it. get a set of svo injectors 24 lb/hr get the vortech get the hotchkiss suspension get a set of lighter alluminum rims moe than likely 17s u know to go along the r/t look so its fair for them. i also plan on intercooling the truck since i can. i think that sums up my plan of attack with the exception of the wieght reduction. hood i can get fenders are a problem.
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