Where are the VW Speed Freaks?

[jcarp613]

I have a 98 Passat 1.8T. Looking for a tech that knows VW's. I want to find a K04, FMIC with piping, and Boost controller. I live in Clearwater....;)

[BisquitMan]

K04 = waste of time and money

[jcarp613]

K04 = waste of time and money
T3/T4? I know that the K04 is direct bolt on. Has anybody run the K04? Is it a waste of time?

[BisquitMan]

GT28RS, do it.

[vr6gti727]

go for the gt28rs. or if u want big power go for a t67 :D

also vdubs cant run controllers until you get your ecu chipped with the set boost pressure you wana run. because if you use just the controller your ecu will go to limp mode and you will get no boost at all.

[jcarp613]

How about a T3/T4? Also, in regards to the boost controller. I was talking about the one that taps into your ECU. i have a friend with a GTI that swears by it.

[vr6gti727]

the t3/t4 is a good turbo. you would have to buy a new manifold and stuff. and deff have a fmic.

well if i were you i would just get the giac x-chip.
my friend jarrod has one and its set at 22psi all the time.
so when ever he gets into boost its 22 psi. its only like 400-500 buks.
and you wont really even need the controller after getting it chipped. your boost will be controlled by the chip.

[BisquitMan]

ATP eliminator kit, everything you need to make 300+ for 2600 bucks.

[vr6gti727]

DON'T REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER KKK, GO WITH A TURBO FROM GARRETT

lol thts funny

[G-Magoo]

my friend jarrod has one and its set at 22psi all the time. so when ever he gets into boost its 22 psi. its only like 400-500 buks. and you wont really even need the controller after getting it chipped. your boost will be controlled by the chip.

Right but that is 22psi out of a small turbo. 22 psi out of a ko3 is way different than 22psi out of a t3/t4.

Original poster - check this out and search for information.
VWvortex Forums: 1.8T Engine Forum (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=27)

[jcarp613]

Does anybody on here drive a modded Passat?

[G-Magoo]

I doubt it.

[OrOr]

ATP eliminator kit, everything you need to make 300+ for 2600 bucks.

Thinking about buying a kit from them, but it's going to be more like $5000 w/intake, exhaust, & chip. 350-400 hp + AWD = sideways fo sho. :-)

[G-Magoo]

ATP eliminator kit, everything you need to make 300+ for 2600 bucks.

Eliminator kits = :jerkoff:

[BisquitMan]

Eliminator kits = :jerkoff:


For a mild upgrade to the 1.8t, I think the are fine. I know a few people who had success with them. I am not a fan of ATP cast manifolds though.

[G-Magoo]

Yeah I guess for something mild they are ok. But they just generate too big of a torque spike and that breaks parts.

[vr6gti727]

i think imgona buy my vr6 mannifold from atp once i go turbo..

its like 300 buks lol pretty cheap

[Madness]

Thinking about buying a kit from them, but it's going to be more like $5000 w/intake, exhaust, & chip. 350-400 hp + AWD = sideways fo sho. :-)
2400$ for an intake, exhaust and a chip..
thats a rip off

just build your own kit..
gt2871r is pretty nice, if u want quick spool, and a decent power gain.
or go with a 30 series, and go big...


ok. here is a better question for you..
what are u looking to spend. and what kind of power do u want??
that will really determin alot.
and help us out with answering ur question..
cause a ko4 is honestly not worth the 1k u spend on it..

[BisquitMan]

i think imgona buy my vr6 mannifold from atp once i go turbo..

its like 300 buks lol pretty cheap

And when it cracks, you'll be SOL. Get a racecraft tubular mani, it is a piece of artwork.

[G-Magoo]

And when it cracks, you'll be SOL. Get a racecraft tubular mani, it is a piece of artwork.


Not all of them crack. there are lots of companies that make decent manifolds, just not cheap.

PPT Turbo Manifolds (http://www.pagparts.com/perfpts1.asp?pprd=gtturbomanifold&mfrid=235)


i think imgona buy my vr6 mannifold from atp once i go turbo..

its like 300 buks lol pretty cheap


just make sure its for a 24v. Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick 2. Just wait for Kinetics 24v Turbo kit to come out.

[BisquitMan]

I like this one:

http://www.racecraft-fabrication.com/v6%20header%20(2).jpg

[Garrett]

ATP eliminator kit, everything you need to make 300+ for 2600 bucks.


i thought you were an APR guy?

honestly i swear by APR they make good quality kits that can put out big power and still be driven daily...... They are a little pricey at times but you get what you pay for.

[vr6gti727]

Not all of them crack. there are lots of companies that make decent manifolds, just not cheap.

PPT Turbo Manifolds (http://www.pagparts.com/perfpts1.asp?pprd=gtturbomanifold&mfrid=235)





just make sure its for a 24v. Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick 2. Just wait for Kinetics 24v Turbo kit to come out.


dood ppt is expensive..

and at roans you said that a 12v would work on a 24v???

im confused

also...
http://www.racecraft-fabrication.com/v6%20header%20%282%29.jpg

is that a custom 24v manifold??
it looks sik lmfao

[vr6gti727]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2690151059_0d67a2d843_b.jpg


omg its so beautiful
chris i am gona buy this kit
its the kinetic kit.

i<3 T67's :)

[BisquitMan]

i thought you were an APR guy?

honestly i swear by APR they make good quality kits that can put out big power and still be driven daily...... They are a little pricey at times but you get what you pay for.


I agree that APR is top notch, but for a budget upgrade, ATP isn't a bad choice.

[BisquitMan]

is that a custom 24v manifold??



Yes, well custom VR6, he also makes 20v, 16v and 8v manifolds. I had one of his 8v intake and turbo manis, they were top notch.

[jcarp613]

Has anybody used a K04 and FMIC on a Passat? Or know anybody that did. Just wondering if it is worth it?

[G-Magoo]

i thought you were an APR guy?

honestly i swear by APR they make good quality kits that can put out big power and still be driven daily...... They are a little pricey at times but you get what you pay for.

I never got on the APR train. There are plenty of other kits out there that can make more power and be just as reliable.





omg its so beautiful
chris i am gona buy this kit
its the kinetic kit.

i<3 T67's :)


Umm hate to break it to you but they dont have a 24v kit yet. I was looking at picking up Kinetics new 1.8T manifold, I just dont have the cash nor the need as of right now for a high $ equal length tubular manifold.

[BisquitMan]

Has anybody used a K04 and FMIC on a Passat? Or know anybody that did. Just wondering if it is worth it?

It isn't. Most people are VERY dissappointed after going with a K04 on any 1.8t (whether in a GTI, Jetta, A4, etc...).

[G-Magoo]

yeah the KO4 is definitely not worth the 20hp you get.

[jcarp613]

Ok. What Turbo and Manifold should I go with?

[G-Magoo]

Its totally up to what you want. Whats the application? What kinda power do you want? When do you want full boost?

[jcarp613]

Its totally up to what you want. Whats the application? What kinda power do you want? When do you want full boost?
I know turbo applications for Hondas from top to bottom. VW is a new thing for me. I want quick and dependable. I don't want to drop $2k into a Passat. Therefore boost at 3k, around 50hp extra and reasonably priced. Is there such a thing?

[TTROCK]

These guys are the best in the state. I was there last week and they just finished a passat w/a gt2871 on it. Got to their site and look at their builds:If you go visit their shop you wont want to bring your car any where else

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[G-Magoo]

I know turbo applications for Hondas from top to bottom. VW is a new thing for me. I want quick and dependable. I don't want to drop $2k into a Passat. Therefore boost at 3k, around 50hp extra and reasonably priced. Is there such a thing?


So you want 50hp over a stock 1.8t or a chipped one?

[jcarp613]

So you want 50hp over a stock 1.8t or a chipped one?
Either way. Obviously a chipped one would be better. Mine is stock right now.

[G-Magoo]

Well on the stock 1.8t you could do all the normal bolt-ons like a chip, turboback, turbo inlet pipe(TIP), DV, etc. and get the power increase you're looking for.

[vr6gti727]

I never got on the APR train. There are plenty of other kits out there that can make more power and be just as reliable.





Umm hate to break it to you but they dont have a 24v kit yet. I was looking at picking up Kinetics new 1.8T manifold, I just dont have the cash nor the need as of right now for a high $ equal length tubular manifold.


dood i know it isnt out.........
lol

VWvortex Forums: Kinetic Motorsport 24v Turbo kit (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3893327&page=1)

but i cant wait unti it is.

also bisquitman who makes those manifolds and what does he charge?

[G-Magoo]

also bisquitman who makes those manifolds and what does he charge?


Price is an Arm, leg or first born.

[vr6gti727]

chris would mike be able to make me one?

jarrod said something about hime being able too

[G-Magoo]

Hell if I had a welder I could make one.

[BisquitMan]

also bisquitman who makes those manifolds and what does he charge?


Jim Burlew a.k.a. Zornig, racecraft fabrication, the VR tubular is $1300.

[vr6gti727]

u wana make me one then chris..
ill rent the welder =)

[G-Magoo]

im down.

[vr6gti727]

dood while we are at it we could make our selves custom exhausts...
but who has a pipe bender?

[Madness]

i just poop'd

[vr6gti727]

so random jarrod lol.

dood this weekend we gona get drunk.
i have beer...

[G-Magoo]

Meh Im going to have a nice exhaust made at 1552.... I think.

[vr6gti727]

Meh Im going to have a nice exhaust made at 1552.... I think.
how much they charge?

[OrOr]

2400$ for an intake, exhaust and a chip..
thats a rip off

just build your own kit..
gt2871r is pretty nice, if u want quick spool, and a decent power gain.
or go with a 30 series, and go big...


ok. here is a better question for you..
what are u looking to spend. and what kind of power do u want??
that will really determin alot.
and help us out with answering ur question..
cause a ko4 is honestly not worth the 1k u spend on it..

I'm at about 200-225hp now. I have upgraded the n75, dv/bov, and adjusted the oem ecu. I get full boost from 3k-4.5k, but the IC & turbo are too small to keep up for long. The car is fairly light and nimble, so it's plenty of power for tearing up the twisties.

I'd like to sustain 300-350hp from 3k+ without loss over time or initial lag. This is my DD so it has to be reliable & practical.

Money isn't an issue, but I dont want to put a ton into an 8yr old car... $5k for engine + new clutch. I'm also getting r8 rims, porche big brake kit, and possably body kit & paint. At the moment, my right hand is shattered with 7 pins in it, so fabrication isn't a real option for me.

[Madness]

hm, well i would say a gt28rs or gt2871r would give u that power range with out worrying about lag so much.. and not having to spend alot of money to get to that power range..

[G-Magoo]

the GT2871 would be the perfect turbo BUT he wants full boost from 3k rpm and up. Id go with the GT28rs. A little smaller. Should be able to make 300-325 on pump and around 350~ on race gas. Dont forget to do rods..

[GOTTI]

I have a slighly modified Passat. I am picking up a K04 from someone at my work for basically nothing. A Passat is sort of a waste to think of making big power. Its a heavy car and just not worth the time. I am going to have the K04, intercooler, with a manual boost controller and will be good for every day cause I know it will not be a beast but will be a good everyday car!!!

[Madness]

g/l with the boost controler

[G-Magoo]

g/l with the boost controler

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