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03AcuraCLTypeS
05-04-2008, 12:41 PM
ok so i have a rebel like that title says and im going to daytona for the night race in july.....here is my thing i want to get a good lens that i can zoom pretty well with doesn't have to be the most stellar lens made ( i have seen the 5000 dollar one lets jsut say its a little above my price) so im looking for advise from the experts but this is a close as i can easly get HAHAHAHA sorry had to mess with yall... so anyone have a good idea for a lens for like a couple hundred mabye 500 max

djerickd
05-05-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm interested as well, I picked up one of these for my girl, now need a nice lens or two..

Mars_302
05-05-2008, 11:24 PM
Are you referring to the Nascar night race or something?

racerraul
05-06-2008, 03:28 AM
I been using the Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Telephoto Zoom Lens for a long time. Got it when I was shooting with my Rebel 200 film 35mm. It's not an IS lens, though. But you get used to it.

Here are some shots from the Daytona Superbike race I took with it on my 30D. This was on the Sport Preset Setting, so I know the shots could have turned out better. Still not bad for what I think it's a $200 lens now days.
Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM Lens Review (http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-75-300mm-f-4-5.6-III-USM-Lens-Review.aspx)


http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh239/racerraul/Daytona/IMG_0502.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh239/racerraul/Daytona/IMG_0500.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh239/racerraul/Daytona/IMG_0510.jpg

racerraul
05-06-2008, 08:12 AM
Eventually I plan on getting this one, which is a bit better all around without having to spend 1k+ for a lens to hobby around in...
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L USM Lens Review (http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-70-200mm-f-4.0-L-USM-Lens-Review.aspx)

LightningToGo
05-06-2008, 04:14 PM
For evening-night shots I would use f/2.8 lens or else you may not have enough lightning to have proper exposer. If you use a slower lens then you'll have to extend your shutter which then you may get blurry images due to shake.

racerraul
05-07-2008, 08:15 AM
^ Indeed. I was assuming the track will be well lit, like the Nascar races. I've no idea how well the infield is lit @ night.

03AcuraCLTypeS
05-13-2008, 02:10 PM
ill be in the stands and yes its a nascar race..i know most people still use the flash when they take the pics at the track at night so im jsut looking for something that might be good for that as well as good for every day shooting of objects from a distance

TYJaMO
05-13-2008, 03:27 PM
I'm interested as well, I picked up one of these for my girl, now need a nice lens or two..

Since when did you start shooting?

Hmm you went down the terribly paved Canon road too?:nuts:

I'm not too familiar with Canon, but Nikon we have the ultra versatile lens, the 18-200mm, try and find out what Canon's is?

If you are shooting motion shots, I'd go with a tele zoom lens.
Scenic or non-action shots I'd use a fixed zoom lens!
^My $0.02!

.:Chris:.
05-13-2008, 03:46 PM
Hmm you went down the terribly paved Canon road too?:nuts:

I'm not too familiar with Canon

Why would you say both of these in the same post? If you're not familiar with Canon, how can you knock their product?

but Nikon we have the ultra versatile lens, the 18-200mm, try and find out what Canon's is?

There are 18-200mm lenses for the Canon mount, but I don't think that's going to be the right focal length here - unless said seats are very close to the track. My guess is that you're going to want a) the longest lens you can find b) the largest aperture you can find (probably f/2.8).

What sort of distance are you expecting? I'm thinking a flash is going to be of no use, but I'll wait to hear back how far away you think the cars are going to be.

03AcuraCLTypeS
05-13-2008, 04:06 PM
ill be in roberts tower at daytona its pretty high up my dad has an old 35mm camera i could ask him what lens he used to shoot with there..since we are almost in the same seatsand his pictures were really good and he could voom in pretty good on the cars on pit road.. and jsut see if i can get something close to that would that work?

SaturnTypeR
05-13-2008, 04:06 PM
Even if your on "track line" you will need something like 70-200 IS L 2.8:crack:

djerickd
05-13-2008, 04:15 PM
Since when did you start shooting?

Hmm you went down the terribly paved Canon road too?:nuts:


I got my GF a Canon XTi for christmas I just borrow it, i have no clue what I'm doing :lol:

.:Chris:.
05-13-2008, 04:53 PM
ill be in roberts tower at daytona its pretty high up my dad has an old 35mm camera i could ask him what lens he used to shoot with there..since we are almost in the same seatsand his pictures were really good and he could voom in pretty good on the cars on pit road.. and jsut see if i can get something close to that would that work?

It's hard to say whether or not a 200mm tekephoto would satisfy you without seeing the pictures that you dad took. Think distance, you can even open Google Earth and try to measure the distance from your seats to the pits. If you figure out the distance, I'll calculate the lens you need.

SaturnTypeR
05-13-2008, 04:56 PM
It's hard to say whether or not a 200mm tekephoto would satisfy you without seeing the pictures that you dad took. Think distance, you can even open Google Earth and try to measure the distance from your seats to the pits. If you figure out the distance, I'll calculate the lens you need.

He is pretty high up. So prob a 300mm would be better.:crack:

03AcuraCLTypeS
05-13-2008, 05:00 PM
he has a 200 with a 1.5 magnifier on his 35mm film

.:Chris:.
05-13-2008, 05:02 PM
he has a 200 with a 1.5 magnifier on his 35mm film

Your camera is a 1.5 crop compared to a 35mm, so 200mm would be equivalent to what he has. A 300mm would get you even closer. There are cheap Canon 300mm's that you can look into, no idea how brightly lit the track is so I can't say if you'll be ok with the standard f/5.6 or if you'll need something faster.

03AcuraCLTypeS
05-13-2008, 07:05 PM
its pretty brightfor the most part but something a little faster probably would hurt...any suggestions? i would also like to be bale to get something i could use in the future in the daytime.

racerraul
05-13-2008, 10:14 PM
I can tell you right now... that if you are not willing to spend over 1K on a telephoto lens... you might as well not worry much about speed and make sure you are taking photos with ample light...

Check out the two recommendations I made... both are under 1K and one of them is cheap enough that you could buy it from Ritz camera, shoot with it & then bring it back for a full refund... that is if they are still doing that.

[sarcarm] here is a link to the terribly paved road of canon lens reviews...
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ [/sarcasm]

Mars_302
05-14-2008, 12:14 AM
im pretty sure a nascar track at night, you are going to need a serious lens. You know where you are going to be seated at? Though now that i think about it, you really dont see a whole lot of nascar night photos either.

racerraul
05-14-2008, 06:53 AM
^ Mars, looks to be be correct. I just googled Pepsi 400 & the night shots only showed what looked to be the Nextel\Sprint tower lit really well... the rest of the stands & the back straight didn't look well lit at all...

Looks like your best bet for shots will be from the platform behind the pits.

03AcuraCLTypeS
05-15-2008, 07:30 PM
i had some time to kill b4 going to winghouse the other day and i talked to a guy a wolf camera he said either the canon 70-200 f2.8 or the sigma 70-200 2.8.... i just picked up a used 70-300 4-5.6 is usm lens that and the whole race isn't run at night it does start when there is still some light out so i figure most the pics i get will be before the race/ the first part of it

racerraul
05-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Have fun... I was just there this year for the Daytona 200. The sound of the bikes on the banking was awesome.

I can only imagine what all those cars close together must sound like...

03AcuraCLTypeS
05-16-2008, 03:32 PM
i have been to the 500 a bunch...it kinda takes ur breath away... the stand shake under ur feet...its awsome