Who Can Fix This ??????????

[JAVIELITO]

I HAVE SUM CASH 2 SPEND SOMEONE THROW ME A PRICE

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[killerMikeD]

3,500-4,500+depending on inner structure/ frame damage would be about right.

[JAVIELITO]

na thankz NVM IM GETTING IT DONE FOR 1500...

[Hellfire_Studios]

Good luck with that repair. For that price....you get what you pay for. 1500, does that include the parts? I hope not.

TR - Once again Low baller capital of the internet.

[SpottedMango]

Just because you don't know what you are doing and can't do it for $1500, don't hate! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In all seriousness, please post some pictures of the repair, I think we will all have a good laugh.

You know what gets to me, I am almost 31 and I never really knew anyone that could 'hook me up' on body work. Seems everyone else, besides me, have some form of a body/paint connection.

Good luck with that repair. For that price....you get what you pay for. 1500, does that include the parts? I hope not.

TR - Once again Low baller capital of the internet.

[killerMikeD]

LMAO, thats awsome just please dont drive any friends or family around in that car, cause if your in another accident you will prolly die. And im dead serious. All that inner structure is damaged, and the frame is prolly bent as well, not to mention you are prolly going to have all used crap put back in, who is fixing it for 1500? cause structural repair on your car is NOT what you want to short cut on, and PLEASE post pics of the repair process, cause no one in their Focking right mind would fix that car even REMOTELY CORRECTLY for 1500 LMFAO, good day.

[killerMikeD]

Parts alone will cost you 1500. Not including materials, and then you have labor.

I will cut it off for 1500 if you want :)

[SpottedMango]

Mike, you are going to get banned, no advertising, remember?! :-o :-o :roll: :roll:

Parts alone will cost you 1500. Not including materials, and then you have labor.

I will cut it off for 1500 if you want :)

[JAVIELITO]

1500 with everything included .... actually it will be quality work i knw the guy whos doing the work he has been in the business for over 20 years hes 53 now, he grew up with my popz so yeah i got the hook up ....yeah i will post pics as soon as it gets done

[JAVIELITO]

ohh and nuthing happened to the frame it was just the body .... although it was very close to the frame

[killerMikeD]

LOL Mango, im sorry, your right i wouldn't even cut it off for 1500.

Oh yea put it on a Chief velocity laser measuring system and tell me that again, you can not tell if a frame is damaged simply by looking at it in this day an age, and it was NOT just the body, since your car is a UNIBODY the body and frame are one in the same, and your quater panel has Major inner structure damage, and i am willing to bet the frame is also tweaked as well as your rear upper strut tower, and i can tell this all from the pics, but im sure you will find out when you start wearing tires on the left rear and cant figure out why, but maybe you will be lucky.

2nd their is NO way that it will be 1,500 bucks, it is Not possible, A NEw quater for that car is prolly 600+ and thats just for a skin, not including a outter and inner wheel house, or inner structure, which you will more than likely need, but thats ok cause for 1500 it will be a whole section from the junkyard which was pulled out of the mud and water, which will have to be cut off of the junkyard car, and then scabbed back on to your car, they may even try to hack the whole section in there without cutting it all apart, then i guess there going to prolly glue it in there cant afford to weld for 1500, no body filler and paint right over the bare metal with pastels and water colors, But hey good luck, no one can beat 1500 for that, not even MACCO or ECONO, who i refer most people like you too.

Hey for kicks and giggles why dont you take it to a body shop and get a few estimates, and talk to a few others on what it would take to get the car fixed the right way. But in the end its not my car or life.

And i dont care to see finished pics, i would like IN PROGRESS pics, cause it could look good as new on the out side an be a wicked pile of shit on the in.

This car had inner structure damage and is less damaged than your car, a new quater and inner structure was replaced on this Audi A4
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BMW 7 series Door was replaced No inner structure damage.
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But hey dont take my word for it, i only work on these high end vehicles everyday

-Mike

[Hellfire_Studios]

Wow....is this thread for real. There are really people out there like this. Do they only use this site cuz they don't seem to exist on any other site on the internet. Are you serious.....the WHOLE job for 1500.00? That is insane. You are not a smart person to cut corners on a job like that. if it was a fender replacement or a bumper....ok I can see a short cut but that is a STRUCTURAL part of your car. Does that not sink in. I hope you don't have kids and plan on driving them around in that death trap once "repaired". If so some one should call child protective services on you.

But what do we know....we are only three working professionals in the auto collision/body business. Three separate individuals whom all work at different shops that are telling you that you are a moron for considering this.

But like Mike (whom works at one of the most prestigious shops in town) said its your LIFE (not car). I hope you can wrap your head around that...what you might be putting at risk to save some dollars.

My .02 cents

Josh

[Hellfire_Studios]

P. S.

Mike get me some 7 series wheels....

[1sicbu]

i would have to agree with some of you guys.you get what you pay for.and if this guy is 150yrs lod then he's blind anyway.yo if any of you guys out there know of a painter's job hit me up,i need work;)

[YuppyKiller]

Ouch, time for a new car man!

[TechChild]

just by a new car and transfer over the parts

[350z2004]

hey i know somebody that can fix it for $2,000 with parts.

[Hellfire_Studios]

Awesome.....another one.

[YuppyKiller]

dude, 2 grand, u throw 1 more grand on there and you just get a swapped civic that needs a little work.. you'd be retarded to put 3k into that pos, that shit looks like it got ran over by a monster truck or something. Take off all that you love on that car, and sell it to a junkyard for 100 bux... get a new car please, we don't need a totaled out pos on the road, florida looks hillbilly enough :)

Have a great day.

[Hellfire_Studios]

I will buy it for a hundred bucks.

[YuppyKiller]

I will buy it for a hundred bucks.

:lol: That's funny stuff. I'd charge u 200 hahaha!

[JAVIELITO]

i got half a shell and ima cut the parts i need and they`re swapping it at the bodyshop they cutting and welding and making sure my frame its 100% good ....

[jriggs]

i hate budget repairs they can be very risky, and even more so i am not a fan of using dad's buddy, friends friend, you get the idea body guy that is suppose to be real good, because if he's not it looks poorly on whoever told you to use them. I've seen it time and time again with friends trying to get their cars repaired cheap.

but as everyone said its your car. I'm not really a fan of grafting two cars together especially when a new (new to you) car can be hand for a little bit more than the cost of repairs.

if you could get pics of the guys work (in the process) that would be great just so everyone will have a sound mind if he does it right, which should in part make you feel good about your decision and help you feel safe driving your car after it has been repaired.

personally after every wreck (but one) i have sold the car because to me it just doesn't feel the same after being repaired, even with everything back to specs (i know it's between my ears but whatever I've excepted the fact i get in a wreck it's time for something new)

[OMG IT'S A COP]

Just because you don't know what you are doing and can't do it for $1500, don't hate! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In all seriousness, please post some pictures of the repair, I think we will all have a good laugh.

You know what gets to me, I am almost 31 and I never really knew anyone that could 'hook me up' on body work. Seems everyone else, besides me, have some form of a body/paint connection.

i'm with you man. i have a hook up here locally for body work, well, deals on labor.




anyone want to place a wager on the amount of bondo that is used? i got two semi trucks full.

[JAVIELITO]

they wont use that much bondo ... they cutting the drivers quarter panel from the door baqq and putting a new one in with all internals in it .... THEY GNNA WELD IT AND IDK I KNW ITS GNNA LOOK GOOD AND ITS GOOD WORK ... IVE SEEN ALOT OF THIS GUYS WORK AND THATS WHY IM DOING BUSINESS WITH HIM

[OMG IT'S A COP]

god, your typing really doesn't help my migraine. i'd rather read jabberwocky from an ewok.

[JAVIELITO]

WELL SORRY I DNT LIKE 2 USE PROPPER ENGLISH I GO 2 SCHOOL FROM 7AM-3PM I THINK I MAKE ENOUGH EFFORT DURING THE DAY TO BE ALL NICE AND PROPPER ON tr SO YEAH AT LEAST U UNDERSTAND 99.9% OF WAT IM SAYIN ... WELL I GOT SOME PIKZ PPLZ OF THE OTHER HALF ... THE GUY TOLD ME THAT HE WAS REPLACING WHATEVER WAS DAMAGED AND THAT HES NOT CUTTING THE WHOLE CAR HIS JUST REPLACING WHATS FUKED UP CUZ HE SAID HE HAS NO NEED 2 MESS WITH THE ROOF ....

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[killerMikeD]

lol, whats the name of that body shop? I think i may have seen it before, oh and good luck with that used pice of shit quater panel, there will be pleanty of bondo, because that is like cutting the top off a soup can, and welding it back on another soup can that you Droped (wrecked) and cut the damaged piece off, and trying to make it look correct and work correctly.. aint gonna happen, but keep up with the pics, i would like to see it with the quaters cut off, and it on the frame rack, And i would also like to see the frame measurements.

And when it is all said and done I will offer you a FREE POST REPAIR inspection. - mike

[JAVIELITO]

bro look when is all done we can meet up and u can inspect it lol ... i might be gettin rid of the car n e ways .... cuz my popz told me that i should 2 so idk but yeah ..... ohh and the name is IM AUTOBODY its on hillsb. and 37th... they only cutting and welding like right by the door top and bottom which its all together like 10inches of metal to cut and then the whole piece they cutting comes out the `` new `` panel with all internals and everything needed ... so im getting the going to cut all the damaged shit off and replace it ... i wish i could swong by and thake piks of the progress but i go 2 skool and i aint got an x-tra car

[OMG IT'S A COP]

holy fuck this car will be a rolling death trap.



one more question, do you type with two fingers pecking like a chicken?

[FarFromStockC70]

na thankz NVM IM GETTING IT DONE FOR 1500...


that sounds about right.. thats what my dad did.. and he just cut out the Quarter panel out of another civic and fixed it.. and no back on the road driving again

[JAVIELITO]

yeah its not like ima have this car 4ever anywways why would i spend as much as my car is worth on fixing it ... if it was a evo or a nice whip like that yeah but a 98 civic ... its not worth spending 4 grand in getting it fixed ...but however its coming out right

[Hellfire_Studios]

How much was that used quarter clip?

[killerMikeD]

free, they cut it off a passing car LOL

[EnZo 240]

so your going to get it fixed like this then sell it to some poor kid that has no idea so he/she can go get killed in it, pretty chill

[JAVIELITO]

Na The Car Will Most Likely Get Shipped To Dom. Republic... And I Already Got The Other Car So Im Good ... The Quarter Panel Was Purchased By The Shop .. I Got No Clue On The Price

[killerMikeD]

o ok so some poor sap in the DR will get killed, but its ok huh?

[JAVIELITO]

why they gotta get killed ... ? and if im selling the car wat tell me wtf u want me 2 do keep my car my whole life and not sell it cuz i should feel too bad for ppl ... honestly im not gonna waste money fixing a car that it will cost me more fixing it `` the right way`` than buyin 1 just like it ... so fuk it for 1500 they did a great fuking job i saw the car be4 sandiing and painting and it looks well done so fuk it ... plus it gone by next week i got me another car already

[killerMikeD]

then i wouldnt have wasted the money to fix it in the 1st place.

[JAVIELITO]

Cuz For 1500 Its Worth It ... Cuz I Can Sell It And Get More Money Than If I Would Of Sold It How It Was ... I Put 1500 In It And Get More Out Of It ...

[Hellfire_Studios]

You should use that money to take some grammar classes.

[killerMikeD]

technically you made the car worth less, esp with a shitty unsafe repair. Good job! and wasted 1500.

[badhombre]

whats wrong with section repairing a vehicle? we do it at my body shop all the time. and I work at a chrysler dealership. hell just yesterday I pulled the whole rear section of a civic and we are welding in a new one. the guy in the next bay is replacing a quarter from a neon the same way. drill the spot welds, remove damaged panel, fit and welde replacement. strong as factory. unless I am missing something here? but still $1500 does seem cheap for that repair. most of the repairs we do which is just a bumper and fender, couple other dings or something is normally around that price. the honda I mentioned about had a bill of $2500, and the rear panel is not as hard to replace as a quarter. what may be going on here is that buying a used car section to replace the quarter is cheaper than buying a new one. I dont know why, but it is. on big insurance jobs, we buy all new stuff. on budget jobs we buy sections of cars from junkyards, cut out the needed panel and weld in as necessary. makes for twice the work for us though, but it does still seem to work out cheaper somehow.

[killerMikeD]

Yea, o boy 1st of all, Any USED WELD ON PANEL is a SHITTY AND GARBAGE REPAIR no matter what you say, for all you know that used quater section was sitting at the bottom of a lake for the past year, or was damaged in an accident, its called a JUNKYARD for a reason, not to mention its like Picking a scab off your body and trying to put it on another wound that you have some where else. And when it is all said an done it is not cheaper, Not if your getting paid for everything you do, the used qtr is all tweaked and damaged and scabbed on your new car, all for INSURANCE COMPANIES to save money, i don't mind used doors and fenders or what not, but NEVER A WELD ON PANEL. Only NEW OEM, that way it has proper e-coat protection and you know where it came from, and its a hundered times easier to weld on. unless of course you still mig weld on replacement panels, which has now been replaced by compression spot welding.

and Eric please tread lightly here, because i dont think you have been in this industry for as long as i have and there is a whole other world that i do not believe you are aware of yet that plagues this trade.

I also want to point out that it is prolly not "as strong" as factory, are these quaters sleeved? if so that would make it stronger than factory, also how many plug welds are put in place of the factory welds and where at?

AND since when does price come before a quality and safe repair, the price should have NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. Our job as a body repair technician should be to restore the car back to pre accident condition, and keep the car the same as factory in the aspect of collision absorbing energy propertys. After all it could be your kid in that car when is all said and done.

[JAVIELITO]

Amd

[killerMikeD]

amd athalon processor FTW

[OMG IT'S A COP]

amd athalon processor FTW
pffffffft intel duo core FTMFW.

[JAVIELITO]

Damn I Seriously Dunt Knw When That Fuking Amd Got There Lol ...

[killerMikeD]

so wheres the pics of this quality and safe car?

[JAVIELITO]

i dnt have them yet ill put em up soon

[badhombre]

Yea, o boy 1st of all, Any USED WELD ON PANEL is a SHITTY AND GARBAGE REPAIR no matter what you say, for all you know that used quater section was sitting at the bottom of a lake for the past year, or was damaged in an accident, its called a JUNKYARD for a reason, not to mention its like Picking a scab off your body and trying to put it on another wound that you have some where else. And when it is all said an done it is not cheaper, Not if your getting paid for everything you do, the used qtr is all tweaked and damaged and scabbed on your new car, all for INSURANCE COMPANIES to save money, i don't mind used doors and fenders or what not, but NEVER A WELD ON PANEL. Only NEW OEM, that way it has proper e-coat protection and you know where it came from, and its a hundered times easier to weld on. unless of course you still mig weld on replacement panels, which has now been replaced by compression spot welding.

and Eric please tread lightly here, because i dont think you have been in this industry for as long as i have and there is a whole other world that i do not believe you are aware of yet that plagues this trade.

I also want to point out that it is prolly not "as strong" as factory, are these quaters sleeved? if so that would make it stronger than factory, also how many plug welds are put in place of the factory welds and where at?

AND since when does price come before a quality and safe repair, the price should have NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. Our job as a body repair technician should be to restore the car back to pre accident condition, and keep the car the same as factory in the aspect of collision absorbing energy propertys. After all it could be your kid in that car when is all said and done.

oh I know, I am just an apprentice, and its not how I would do my vehicle. I'm just saying, it does go on, and it sucks for the bodyman. because now we have 2 panels to remove instead of 1, we have to deal with all the holes, damage to the new panel, ect. also we do not weld our panels except for at points were we overlap to the existing panel. we panel bond all the seams (on used peices, new ones are mig spot welded). but even still, I was in auto body trade school for 2 years plus 1 semester of damage reporting/estimate calculating. and they also taught us to use recycled panels, and the panel bonding method. does it work? yes. is it safe? ehh... I wouldnt keep a vehicle repaired that way. either way it seems to be the standard now

[killerMikeD]

Eric dont you have that backwards? the used pieces should be mig welded cause u already have the holes, and the new panels can be panel bonded, and Or compresson spot welded, or mig plug welded if you really have to, but id rather use the Compresson spot welder, makes welds just like factory no waiting for glue to dry, and NO grinding welds!

And it will continue to be standard until people ;Bodymen, body shops, and customers Realize whats going on, and make a stand, that it is a garbage and unsafe repair, and that the insurance companys are only interested in saving a buck, and adjusters getting there rewards and kickbacks for writing for these used and aftermarket garbage parts. Its a shame that the Customer is the one that really looses, followed by the technician.

send me a pm eric about your current situation, pay rate, and duties, and what all you got going on, i have a nice website for you and a forum, that may just help you out some! - mike

[badhombre]

I'm just saying how they do it where I'm at. I finally found out why today. I asked the bodyman I'm apprenticing under about why they do that. he said its because of this "going green" kick, and the would rather recycle a junk part onto a driveable vehicle than produce a new part and have waste. its a bunch of corporate b/s, and yeah alot of these insurance guys and such need to spend a day in a bodyshop so they can understand what kinda crap they pull on us. yeah I'll pm you that info

[killerMikeD]

yea but they have been writing for used garbage since day one, and the bottom line is to Save money, since you can buy a whole 1/4 clip of a car for about half to 3/4 the price of a new skin. This going Green thing is a bunch of BS, since the insurance companys are not the ones who make the Cars or parts, and the OEM parts makers are nto making money of fof junk yard parts, they would much rather you buy a new one, so no one gives a shit about recycling, its just another insurance company scam~! besides alot of manufactures strictly say NO USED WELD ON PARTS in there body repair manuals such as toyota and lexus. and while it does help recycle, id rather not sacrifice my safety or any one elses, with weld on used scabs. Doors, fenders that are in good condition and cleaned are still rather acceptable, espically on an older car, as long as there inspected thoroughly. If your insurance company is writing for a used weld on part, beware its a garbage repair! and will not last.

[jlmaxima4sale]

hey guys you will know its him when you see him drive down the road looking like hes going sideways lol

[killerMikeD]

lol dog track FTW

[95 civic hatch]

well i work for a body shop and they repair a whole quarter for like 1500 bucks are so an the quarter only costed us like 200 bucks i wish i had pic it turned out really good and good lick on the fix man pople are just hating becasue they are geting fucked when it comes to paint and body work bump

[JAVIELITO]

look i finally got gud quality pikz

click on the link below on my sig it was the drivers side so honestly let me knw how it look ON THIS THREAD not on the onew where the pics are

[killerMikeD]

well i work for a body shop and they repair a whole quarter for like 1500 bucks are so an the quarter only costed us like 200 bucks i wish i had pic it turned out really good and good lick on the fix man pople are just hating becasue they are geting fucked when it comes to paint and body work bump

Yea, i bet you are the Trash boy too. You have no fockign clue how to repair a car safely and correctly, and i bet it looked like shit also, pics are no good i want to see it in person and i will personally point out all the flaws in the repair.

*News flash, paint and body work done PROPERLY IS NOT CHEAP!*

Please explain to ME how i am getting fucked, because i don't see how.

[surealconcepts]

for 1500 bucks he cant complain... lol

im glad i no longer have to do insurance jobs anymore but i wouldve definitely charged way more then 1500 lol

[Hellfire_Studios]

people on this board should really take an english lesson. I can not read like half these posts....

[95 civic hatch]

that kiiler mike dude is a ass whoe ...damn like i said he is just mad becasue he is fucking poeple are geting fucked one of the two ... and you can think what ever you want to man ... but dont shit talking shit ok

[importguy1208]

people on this board should really take an english lesson. I can not read like half these posts....

+72097345328705434

This dudes last post is completely beyond my grasp of understanding.

[killerMikeD]

that kiiler mike dude is a ass whoe ...damn like i said he is just mad becasue he is fucking poeple are geting fucked one of the two ... and you can think what ever you want to man ... but dont shit talking shit ok

Whats a "Whoe", and who is "kiiler"? And you have yet to explain how i am focking or getting focked? LMAO