Running on Veggie Oil Soon!!!

[blacksleeper]

Just thought I would share my current project with you guys. I am buying a 1978 Mercedes 300SD Turbo Diesel that I will be running on waste veggie oil. I am not sure if I want to install a tank system or just treat and filter the oil. If you get a chance to look the systems up, they are pretty easy. I can either use an onboard heating and filtering system, or I can buy special additive that treats the oil (then filter and pour in gas tank.) I will most likely be buying the special additive and building a holding tank w/filters that I will store in my parents garage. The additive method is supposedly only 45 cents per gallon, cause I can get the waste oil for free. I will post pics of the car later, but let me know if you guys have seen this yet. It's not new technology, but should be fun to try. :D

[Jewbu]

a friend of mine was going to do this with his turbo dodge ram truck but ended up selling it.
good luck to you

[blacksleeper]

Apparently any diesel can do it, the oil just has to be prepared correctly. Even big commercial diesel are doing this right now.

[00lgt]

people say it smells like french fries

[djerickd]

nice work,
I seriously want to convert to HHO myself

[blacksti]

this hippie church kid that my friends knew did it to an old short bus and traveled across the u.s pretty intense

[cpages2]

Good luck tree hugger...... Mean while im going to go fill up with 93 Octane and then pour some out on the ground just to waste fuel, all while spraying aerosol cans in the air.


:) :) :)

- mike

[Wrxgurl06]

Good luck. Hope it works out.

[KAX]

where would you be getting the oil from? just running around to restauraunts and picking it up?

[JonLGT]

It smells awesome. :lol: We had one come to school years ago to show it off, it does smell like french fries.

[homemade wrx]

haha...first thing I was thinking when I saw this thread was "hold on, I'm not on my diesel site"

I'm starting with 50/50 wvo/diesel mix as I'm slowly building my biodiesel processor :D First up half price diesel followed by about $0.60 per gallon as methanol cost has gone up some. I'm going to run 50/50 WVO and biodiesel in the end....
I still only get 17 mpg when I behave in the truck...

[blacksleeper]

^ I will most likely be doing the same. I will gradually convert over to running more and more WVO till eventually it is running on all homemade biodiesel, but first I have to build my mad scientist processor and change out some of the old fuel hoses. Total cost for the processor using a water heater should only run about 200-250 bucks and I can keep it in my parents garage up in Hudson.

Also cpages don't call me a tree hugger.....I just enjoy working on unique projects. I'm still keeping my toy, just trying to put less miles on her.

I may also be getting the hook up with a guy who currently makes his own biodiesel and sells it for like a $1.25 or something really cheap like that. That way I can start using it while I build my own processor. Well I'll post a pic or two later tonight after I pick it up.

Anyone have any good suggestions for the cheapest place/way to insure the car? It's a 78 benz so I'm sure it can't be more than 30-40 bucks. Is it better to put antique plates on it or just regular plates. I've heard antique plates may make your insurance a little higher.

[homemade wrx]

my full setup with water heater is looking to be about $500 with nice plumbing, filters, pumps (for processing, pick up and filling), fuel gauge, barrels and container.
so you're planning on doing an appleseed to then?

I'm already working on a simple PLC controlled processor to make a single push button and walk away system...much like the biopro

[LiL Sang]

I remember my coach (Coach Muller) back in Webb middle school, use to drive a volkswagen truck with veggie oil all the time... it smells like fries!! lol

[Wrxgurl06]

I remember my coach (Coach Muller) back in Webb middle school, use to drive a volkswagen truck with veggie oil all the time... it smells like fries!! lol

Haha, I remember him!

[LiL Sang]

hahahah yea I saw him at Kuhn VW when I was workin, he told me he retired last year ago!! :)

[Wrxgurl06]

It's about time. He had already been there forever when I went there and I was there '96-'98. lol

[blacksleeper]

Well I went to go check out the benz I had in mind, and it turned out to be a lot worse than advertised. Not to mention the guy selling it was a drunk, retired, viking, who came outside with his drunk wife and talked our ears off for about 2 hours. Then to top it off, the guy liked my wife and I so much that next time he throws a party he wants us to come. They were really nice people, but entirely wasted. And since he was ex-military he kept talking about all the guns and toys he had that were illegal.

Crazy people, but it makes for a great story sometime......so my search for a diesel continues.

[LiL Sang]

haha yea, my brother graduated back in 98' at Leto and now he's 28.... he still remembers Coach Muller and Coach Ocho back in middle school lol

[KAX]

so you never answered my question, where are you going to get the oil from?

[homemade wrx]

I remember my coach (Coach Muller) back in Webb middle school, use to drive a volkswagen truck with veggie oil all the time... it smells like fries!! lol
and there lies the danger...I'm going to have to lift my truck because fat girls can't jump:P

generally source the oil from smaller family run restraunts. It keeps them from having to pay for company's to take it away. I in-turn become the disposal company for them.

[Wrxgurl06]

haha yea, my brother graduated back in 98' at Leto and now he's 28.... he still remembers Coach Muller and Coach Ocho back in middle school lol

Haha, I remember Coach Ocho too. I went to school with her son.

[Wrxgurl06]

so you never answered my question, where are you going to get the oil from?

^ I will most likely be doing the same. I will gradually convert over to running more and more WVO till eventually it is running on all homemade biodiesel, but first I have to build my mad scientist processor and change out some of the old fuel hoses. Total cost for the processor using a water heater should only run about 200-250 bucks and I can keep it in my parents garage up in Hudson.

Also cpages don't call me a tree hugger.....I just enjoy working on unique projects. I'm still keeping my toy, just trying to put less miles on her.

I may also be getting the hook up with a guy who currently makes his own biodiesel and sells it for like a $1.25 or something really cheap like that. That way I can start using it while I build my own processor. Well I'll post a pic or two later tonight after I pick it up.

Anyone have any good suggestions for the cheapest place/way to insure the car? It's a 78 benz so I'm sure it can't be more than 30-40 bucks. Is it better to put antique plates on it or just regular plates. I've heard antique plates may make your insurance a little higher.

Here you go...this what you're looking for? :)

[KAX]

Here you go...this what you're looking for? :)

not really, lol. i wanted to know where they'd get it to use in their own processing.

homemade, answered it. so thanks :)

if/when the engine in my isuzu trooper goes out, id like to buy a diesel for it. i wanted to do that anyway, and now that you've reminded me about running the veggie oil, it makes it even more tempting. that truck is a guzzler. i get maybe 10 more miles on a tank than my RS, but its more then twice the size.

free fuel minus a start-up cost is very tempting

[homemade wrx]

there is a lot involved with converting a gas car to diesel...unless you buy and entire factory diesel setup to drop in...
i.e. gas 4-runner converted to diesel as it was done factory ;)

[KAX]

thats what i would do. they make turbo diesel trooper motors, would just be drop in plus a little wiring.

some engines dont even need an ECU, so that would eliminate the hardest part of the swap.

[03Wrx]

sounds like fun. if i get this job driving all over fl i might have to do this to.

[sr24087]

this hippie church kid that my friends knew did it to an old short bus and traveled across the u.s pretty intense

Was his name chris by any chance?

[racer_x]

and there lies the danger...I'm going to have to lift my truck because fat girls can't jump:P



ROFL

[KAX]

so, ive been throwing this idea around in my head more and more and I really like it. especially since the cost of the diesel engine would pay for itself in about a year or so.

do you have any links or info on running veggie oil, like processing and whatnot?

also, are the fuel tanks and pump any different, between gas and diesel?

[homemade wrx]

yes, the entire fuel system is different between diesel and gas...or at least on trucks they are...
what do you want to know about processing the oil?
all you need to do is filter it. I'd run a course filter when you pick up. then a 100 micron into a 55gallon drum (feeder for hot water heater), then you can filter down again into the water heater. then pump into a 55gallon drum though a 5 micron...
there are dozens of ways to do it though.
You also don't have to filter in as many spots as I do but you will just have to replace one filter more often...I just do more filters less often for spread out servicing.

[KAX]

ok, thanks

[silvershadow]

Congrads on Everything! Ur private life and; Excellent move for the enviornment. Can u get ur oil from any fast food establishment? Just picked up a 06 prius myself, and my 05 wrx which is sufficient. Take Care.:)